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Sweet Jesus, looking around I can't find an Index for less that 1700 or rift or Quest for less than 600. Guess I have plenty of time to think about which one I want lol. I'll wait until pandemic gouging ends I guess. Was so close to pulling the trigger.
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veni veni veni posted:Sweet Jesus, looking around I can't find an Index for less that 1700 or rift or Quest for less than 600. Guess I have plenty of time to think about which one I want lol. I'll wait until pandemic gouging ends I guess. Was so close to pulling the trigger. All headsets are way over-valued right now. There are 3 64g Quests on eBay right now for 525 though, while still higher than normal a lot less that 600 bucks. My wife wants a Quest because a few of her friends have them, so I suppose now I am indeed a part of the Facebook machine  At least I'll be able to compare both wireless VR and clarity/comfort myself between the Quest and Index! Here are eBay links to the 3 Quests, used to be 4 but I just bought one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/OCULUS-QUE...PUAAOSwdXhelgq- https://www.ebay.com/itm/Oculus-Quest-64GB-VR-Headset-SEALED-Brand-New-/233574262711?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10
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May 19, 2020 04:01
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Okay, so what's the deal with Vive Pro audio from those who own one? I'm leaning towards getting a second-hand one as I want an upgrade on my Vive, and  at blowing money on a Cosmos. it seems like some HMD's produced have tinny audio and others don't, or it's a driver issue if you don't use the displayport as the audio path?veni veni veni posted:Sweet Jesus, looking around I can't find an Index for less that 1700 or rift or Quest for less than 600. Guess I have plenty of time to think about which one I want lol. I'll wait until pandemic gouging ends I guess. Was so close to pulling the trigger. VR headsets are a great investment right now, just for staying sane while social distancing.
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May 19, 2020 04:09
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I noticed the screen door on OG Rift, definitely don't anymore on the Quest. I'm sure the Index is great but my life currently requires a setup with the smallest room footprint, and the Quest delivers that. I played Alyx today on the Quest via the Link for about 3 hours and it was awesome.
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May 19, 2020 04:38
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veni veni veni posted:Sweet Jesus, looking around I can't find an Index for less that 1700 or rift or Quest for less than 600. Guess I have plenty of time to think about which one I want lol. I'll wait until pandemic gouging ends I guess. Was so close to pulling the trigger. Just get on the wait list for an Index via Steam, use that time to build/buy a PC. Don't go second hand.
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May 19, 2020 05:23
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Just get on the wait list for an Index via Steam, use that time to build/buy a PC. Don't go second hand. One minor note with the Index is make sure your IPD's in the range for it (up to 70mm) before looking to drop a chunk of money on one. Anything past that is a bit subjective apparently.
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May 19, 2020 05:30
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Epic is having a sale right now and they're doing the $10 coupons again. Tetris Effect is on sale for $27.99 and if you use the coupon that brings it to $17.99. I was very interested in the game but not at $40. At $18 I bought it. https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/tetris-effect/home
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May 19, 2020 05:31
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Just get on the wait list for an Index via Steam, use that time to build/buy a PC. Don't go second hand. Yeah, by the time you get your Index you'll be able to preorder the Index 2 and build a computer with a new series of graphics cards. It's a win win. I'm on the waitlist and I hate it. lol
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May 19, 2020 05:42
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Is anyone else logging like, almost an hour a day on Echo Arena with Quest? I was expecting it to be a real dud like Dead and Buried II but is actually a lot of fun
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May 19, 2020 05:48
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Hadlock posted:Is anyone else logging like, almost an hour a day on Echo Arena with Quest? I was expecting it to be a real dud like Dead and Buried II but is actually a lot of fun I’ve been playing it a ton, I finally hit the level where it keeps pairing me with 50’s so it’s a crapshoot whether I feel like I actually contribute or just try not to drag my team down. That being said, I’m getting pretty accurate with my passes.
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May 19, 2020 06:17
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Hadlock posted:Is anyone else logging like, almost an hour a day on Echo Arena with Quest? I was expecting it to be a real dud like Dead and Buried II but is actually a lot of fun It's the best game in VR and it's not even clsoe
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May 19, 2020 06:19
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Hadlock posted:Is anyone else logging like, almost an hour a day on Echo Arena with Quest? I was expecting it to be a real dud like Dead and Buried II but is actually a lot of fun I was gonna try it out last night, but I needed to update my Quest. I'll try it soon. I'll probably get super motion sickness. 
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May 19, 2020 06:20
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If you want to find out whether or not a proper Portal VR game would actually make you sick, someone managed to make working Portal guns in VRChat using UDON. It's just a one-room test world, but they work surprisingly well and even got the physics pretty bang-on. The portals even have depth to them, they're not a 2D screen splashed over a surface.
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May 19, 2020 06:25
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:Epic is having a sale right now and they're doing the $10 coupons again. Tetris Effect is on sale for $27.99 and if you use the coupon that brings it to $17.99. I was very interested in the game but not at $40. At $18 I bought it. 1000% worth 40 bucks and 18 is a steal. Merijn posted:
I used to spend 8 hours + a day in one. Its not a big deal. Some headsets are more comfy obviously but its not uncommon to spend hours inside the headset for people.
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May 19, 2020 06:41
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With the current state of world affairs there's no reason to even leave the VR.
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May 19, 2020 06:58
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re: VR face Try adjusting your headset, and/or get a different face pad. I got a soft-touch silicone "condom"* and put that over my quest pad and I dunno, it works really well for me. Also at first I was strapping the headset on about as tight as it would go, I've relaxed it quite a bit and that's improved things for me. I can do 90 minutes or whenever my Quest overheats, whichever comes first * https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07X4CVSZL Cais posted:I’ve been playing it a ton, I finally hit the level where it keeps pairing me with 50’s so it’s a crapshoot whether I feel like I actually contribute or just try not to drag my team down. That being said, I’m getting pretty accurate with my passes. Yeah I'm getting into playing with mostly 18/19 level players, strategies actually are talked about and happening, people generally are paying attention etc, and yeah, people actually pass There does seem to be a big Y of players, there's the casuals, and then there's the hyper-mobile pro level type players who are just spidermanning around the court etc I always thought 72fps was good enough but when both teams descend on the frisbee in a corner things get pretty hectic. There's some latency problems too I suspect even though we're all mostly at ~50-60ms, but humans in zero G are a bit less predictable in netcode than quake/doom tank people with heavy gravity.
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May 19, 2020 07:10
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Here is my solution to VR face: Wear it proudly 
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May 19, 2020 07:12
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A Quest update with some interesting changes:quote:All of these features and enhancements will become available throughout the week of 5/18/20 SCheeseman fucked around with this message at 11:51 on May 19, 2020 |
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May 19, 2020 07:15
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I wonder if Valve is ever going to try this method of handtracking; last I used it on Quest it was still jittery and janky, but it's a good proof of concept, I could see Valve doing a really good job with it. Or just release some dope VR gloves.
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May 19, 2020 08:08
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Index controllers are dope vr gloves, op
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May 19, 2020 08:11
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I theorized that those fancy cameras Valve stuck on the front of the Index were to make finger/hand tracking more precise, but instead they're for... ahhh. Uh.
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May 19, 2020 08:16
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SCheeseman posted:I theorized that those fancy cameras Valve stuck on the front of the Index were to make finger/hand tracking more precise, but instead they're for... ahhh. Uh. DevOps, basically. The Index is a hardware reference kit as much as a retail product, and half of it is there for developers to play with in the same vein as the Vive's extra USB port. sigher posted:I wonder if Valve is ever going to try this method of handtracking; last I used it on Quest it was still jittery and janky, but it's a good proof of concept, I could see Valve doing a really good job with it. The problem with hand-tracking as your primary input method is it has the same problem the Vive wands did; An interface that seems open but sucks in practice because it's digitally emulating analogue inputs. Sometimes you just want a thumbstick to move and buttons to press because they're much more precise and consistent inputs than waving a hand about. The Knuckle Controllers really are the best place to start from for developing anything further in that regard.
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May 19, 2020 08:59
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I swear in the last few months the Quest has gotten more updates, features and huge quality of life improvements than the original Rift did over its entire lifespan. In short, this is awesome.
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May 19, 2020 09:03
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Okay, so what's the deal with Vive Pro audio from those who own one? I'm leaning towards getting a second-hand one as I want an upgrade on my Vive, and In 3rd place: 3rd place doesn't even merit a mention. Rift S / Quest / Vive DAS / Vive Pro / etc are all *terrible* for various reasons. Decent Wireless game headsets or even apple earpods are vastly better than all of these. I found the Vive DAS and Vive Pro to have terrible high frequency distortion that made it extremely shrill and ear piercing, with muddy mids and bass. They were also not very comfortable and felt kind of weird like vinyl plastic balloons resting on your ears. They also both have a default audio level of that is twice as loud as "make your eardrums explode". The Rift S / Quest are like having low quality speakers nearby, lots of distortion that is mostly handled by clipping the frequency out completely, low quality sound reproduction. The problems are mostly masked out so as to not actively hurt you like the Vive DAS / Pro, they just don't do much. In a distant 2nd place: The OG rift was fairly good quality, fairly low distortion with decent bass. Good overall sound reproduction, not stunning, but pretty competitive with actually putting on some kind of wireless gaming headset. It's biggest advantage is that its built in so its super convenient to put on. They feel like normal basic koss headphones to wear, with less compression as the headset bears a majority of the weight and positioning. In 1st place: The Valve Index doesn't compete with VR headsets for audio quality, it competes with high end audiophile headsets and as such it's not fair to compare the other headsets built in audio with the Index. *Superb* clarity and no distortion, very even frequency reproduction, and good realistic bass (meaning some people will call it low bass because of how headphones are these days). Not having them touch your ears makes them perfect for comfort, because you aren't even wearing anything. To try to improve on the Index audio you are going to be spending several hundred dollars and some high end cans and an amp and having to deal with an extra wire.
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May 19, 2020 09:14
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They have added the ability to load up the next scene in the Quill theater app,cool.
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May 19, 2020 09:30
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rage-saq posted:There are only two headsets with not-terrible audio quality, the OG Rift and the Valve Index. I haven't tried the Cosmos or Cosmos Elite, but I hear they are almost the same as the Vive Pro speakers. Not gonna lie, I'm looking at a second-hand complete Vive Pro setup on eBay right now and thinking real hard about dropping an extra $150AUD on top of that on the VR Ears kickstarter if I can swing the auction at a somewhat-sane price. 
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May 19, 2020 09:44
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Ok I might be an idiot but getting modded beat saber on quest is a bit more of a hassle than I expected?
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May 19, 2020 10:18
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Isometric Bacon posted:I swear in the last few months the Quest has gotten more updates, features and huge quality of life improvements than the original Rift did over its entire lifespan. The original Rift's interface was an extremely basic menu that you had to navigate with an Xbox One controller because there were no motion controls at all. It's really easy to forgot just how much of what we consider basic VR functionality wasn't there at launch, it improved a ton. The Quest's updates have been fantastic, but aside from Link they've been fairly incremental by comparison.
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May 19, 2020 10:19
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Also I really didn’t wanna link my Facebook to the quest but I wanna see those Monterey bay otters (stopped there on our California road trip)
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May 19, 2020 10:20
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Trip report: Virtual Desktop streaming from PC to Quest over wifi works flawlessly and is a lot better than the ALVR implementation. I don't even have any wired networking in my house and I see no latency problems.
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May 19, 2020 10:46
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Neddy Seagoon posted:DevOps, basically. The Index is a hardware reference kit as much as a retail product, and half of it is there for developers to play with in the same vein as the Vive's extra USB port. I know that's the official word but nothing of note has really come to fruition and it would be nice if Valve themselves could use the hardware to develop features for themselves. As it stands, they're pass-through cameras positioned in the wrong spot.
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May 19, 2020 11:53
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rage-saq posted:Rift S / Quest / Vive DAS / Vive Pro / etc are all *terrible* for various reasons. The Vive Pro for some reason has two seperate audio devices appear as playback devices when you have the headset, 'HTC Vive Pro' and 'Vive Pro Mutimedia' - and no, that's not a typo. It always seems to be a crapshoot on whether it will actually work or not, and the typo on a multi thousand dollar headset drives my ocd nuts.
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SCheeseman posted:I know that's the official word but nothing of note has really come to fruition and it would be nice if Valve themselves could use the hardware to develop features for themselves. As it stands, they're pass-through cameras positioned in the wrong spot. I can't even get the stupid cameras to show up in my passthrough. They do show up as my windows camera though lol
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Also I really didn’t wanna link my Facebook to the quest but I wanna see those Monterey bay otters (stopped there on our California road trip) I jumped into the jellyfish one yesterday and the video is all relaxing with chill music and people in the crowd going buck wild. I wasn't in the mood for it so I just dipped out and played Tetris Effect.
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May 19, 2020 15:29
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tak posted:Index controllers are dope vr gloves, op I returned mine, the finger sensors were constantly misunderstanding what I was trying to do in Alyx. For $100 I'd use them over the Vive wands I already had but not for $300.
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May 19, 2020 15:31
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Ok I might be an idiot but getting modded beat saber on quest is a bit more of a hassle than I expected? If you have it already open to third party apps, it's pretty easy,the installer does most of the work.
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May 19, 2020 15:44
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Also I really didn’t wanna link my Facebook to the quest but I wanna see those Monterey bay otters (stopped there on our California road trip) The... What?
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May 19, 2020 15:45
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Gort posted:Trip report: Virtual Desktop streaming from PC to Quest over wifi works flawlessly and is a lot better than the ALVR implementation. What was your setup? I'm trying to understand the process of buying VD, installing the sidequest version of it, installing desktop streamer. Why do I need the sideload version?
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May 19, 2020 16:56
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tensai posted:Why do I need the sideload version? Because Oculus told the developer to remove the feature from the Oculus Store version.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Ok I might be an idiot but getting modded beat saber on quest is a bit more of a hassle than I expected? It's not as complex as some of the tutorials make it seem, basically just get your Quest able to sideload stuff, put BMBF on it, bookmark stuff on Beast Saber and you can then just pull all those bookmarked songs onto the Quest through SyncSaber in BMBF.
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