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Yeah, the only real response to this virus in a country with no track and trace technology but immense food surplus is immediate lockdown of all nonessential stuff, then a month or so to safely wind down and lay up stuff you can't just flip the switch on and expect it to work again in months, then like a 16 week "lights out" lockdown where even a lot of what we consider "essential" is shutdown. Like shutting down everything but bare survival for like 3-4 months.
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Burn Zone posted:I bought around five pounds of ground beef on Saturday for $18.31. jesus that's just 80/20
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May 20, 2020 19:04
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:in movie theatres you shut the gently caress up. man, when's the last time you were at a theater
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May 20, 2020 19:07
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Just walked into my local Safeway (I need to get some produce) and man is it loving funny that the mainland is currently paying higher prices for freaking 80/20 ground beef right now.
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May 20, 2020 19:09
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Burn Zone posted:I bought around five pounds of ground beef on Saturday for $18.31. glad I bought 3 lbs of ground beef two weeks ago back when I was doing my grocery shopping for the next month or two I'm going to spread it out and have it as taco meat with tortilla chips
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May 20, 2020 19:11
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just eat poultry instead of red meat. it's a lot better for you any way
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May 20, 2020 19:13
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the ideology of individual responsibility has worked extremely well to address environmental problems, surely it will work great to stop a pandemic
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triple sulk posted:just eat poultry instead of red meat. it's a lot better for you any way Or just skip meat for now, especially when the USDA thinks poop and brain matter is good filler material.
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May 20, 2020 19:14
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triple sulk posted:just eat poultry instead of red meat. it's a lot better for you any way By me, whole chickens have gone from $0.99 a pound to like $3.00 a pound, and that's if all poultry hasn't sold out, which is the more likely outcome. Chicken breast might as well be unobtainium around here.
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May 20, 2020 19:15
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I already have a pretty low meat diet but lol we were gonna make spaghetti with meatballs per child request and that has changed to spaghetti with mushroom based "meatballs" Since I assume I'm not the only one who is gonna pass on buying meat if it's so expensive, that will further gently caress up meat prices as consumers continue to side with the HOLY BEAN
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May 20, 2020 19:15
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if u want meat-product the beyond burger stuff is still the same price as before
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May 20, 2020 19:17
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Admiral Ray posted:if u want meat-product the beyond burger stuff is still the same price as before I've had more success with not trying to actively find substitutes to fill my meat hole and instead finding veggies I like on their own merit. Big on beans and greens right now. https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/patrick-and-gina-neely/greens-and-beans-recipe-1940026
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May 20, 2020 19:18
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power word- Jeb! posted:the ideology of individual responsibility has worked extremely well to address environmental problems, surely it will work great to stop a pandemic A lot more people will do something when they know that other people are also being required to do it, so they aren't losing out relative to other people over it. This all in the context of the competition of consumerism and keeping up with the Joneses that is encouraged every time an advertisement uses the bandwagon effect as an advertising technique, and all that marketing is boring down in the opposite direction on that weak "individual responsibility" PR.
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May 20, 2020 19:19
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we switched our egg supply to just people we know in town with chickens. I wonder if people think opening er up will bring back meat?
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May 20, 2020 19:19
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:I've had more success with not trying to actively find substitutes to fill my meat hole and instead finding veggies I like on their own merit. I've been making lots of various variants of these: http://forbiddenriceblog.com/2015/10/06/homemade-yumm-bowls/
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May 20, 2020 19:20
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fosborb posted:from TransUnion today: *squints for some time* .... 
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May 20, 2020 19:21
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Iron Crowned posted:I prefer a Hot Dong Summer prohibited
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May 20, 2020 19:22
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I was gonna make moussaka this weekend but looks like I'll be settling for hummus, flatbread, dolmas, non meaty Mediterranean stuff
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May 20, 2020 19:22
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Philthy posted:Why would you even consider sending kids back to school this year. poo poo some places have already canceled/remote 2021. my uni is considering doing in person fall classes because i live in florida and it makes me want to die (which is their goal lmao)
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May 20, 2020 19:23
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fosborb posted:lmao yup deaths are on a 1-2 week lag so it basically tracks entirely with positives 2 weeks ago
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May 20, 2020 19:24
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capital is pushing to open back up, not people https://twitter.com/tackettdc/status/1263173457275166720
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May 20, 2020 19:27
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shovelbum posted:If you locked down for like 16 weeks on stored rations without even trying to keep utilities beyond water going (would have to be summer or everyone would freeze to death) it would just go extinct. Everyone would die when every country in the world rioted and it's pointless to talk about weird fantasies like this. Nobody is going to fast and go without electricity for 2 months, stop being dumb. The US could maintain a somewhat aggressive lockdown for 3-4 months, which is probably what we'd need to do if we followed that up with eased restrictions at a reasonable rate. And by reasonable I mean dropping restrictions slowly over months, not this stupid bullshit where governors are like "eh, today we're going to open things up 50% and then on Friday we're opening everything up 100% idk" Our response has been monumentally dumb, but we weren't even that loving far off. Expanded unemployment to the end of the year and way better payroll loans probably would have been enough to let us get through this with just a very deep recession instead of the economic hellstorm we're flying towards at warp speed right now.
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May 20, 2020 19:28
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Admiral Ray posted:if u want meat-product the beyond burger stuff is still the same price as before Not like this.
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May 20, 2020 19:30
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quote:Lymphocytopenia, especially the reduced CD4+ and CD8+ T cell counts upon admission, was predictive of disease progression. High levels of IL-6 and IL-8 during treatment were observed in patients with severe or critical disease and correlated with decreased lymphocyte count. The determinants of disease severity seemed to stem mostly from host factors such as age, lymphocytopenia, and its associated cytokine storm, whereas viral genetic variation did not significantly affect the outcomes. How excess alcohol depresses immune function quote:Alcoholism suppresses the immune system, resulting in a high risk of serious, and even life-threatening infections. A new study shows that this effect stems largely from alcohol's toxicity to immune system cells called dendritic cells. These cells play a critical role in immune function, responding to danger signals by searching for unfamiliar antigens within the body that would be coming from invading microbes, and presenting such antigens to T cells, thus activating them to seek and destroy cells containing these antigens. Uh oh. Although this is still suggesting that if you hit the cytokine storm stage you need to start heavy drinking, which might be hard on a ventilator. Lady Militant posted:my uni is considering doing in person fall classes because i live in florida and it makes me want to die (which is their goal lmao)
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May 20, 2020 19:32
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Scarodactyl posted:I had been hoping that Beyond's price would become competetive with real meat, but not like this. real meat is heavily subsidized by the feds. in an ideal world beef would be taxed pretty heavily because raising cattle like we do is just phenomenally bad for the environment.
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Nocturtle posted:
I'm sure the NYC unis are just as cramped and overcrowded as mine (UCF has 63 thousand students), which means any level of in person classes are impossible because the groups will be to big. How tf you going to justify only seating 5% of the students and making the other 95% do the online thing? How will be decided who gets to go in? Will all the old professor wear full PPE for their entire lectures??? ??????????
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I'm going to die because I drink too much lol
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brugroffil posted:capital is pushing to open back up, not people
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:I've had more success with not trying to actively find substitutes to fill my meat hole and instead finding veggies I like on their own merit.
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May 20, 2020 19:37
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Philthy posted:Why would you even consider sending kids back to school this year. poo poo some places have already canceled/remote 2021.  my local school board gave all the kids ipads with unlimited tmobile data for this reason
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Yeah. I had started with my plan to reduce my meat intake before covid took off, and pretty quickly came to conclusion that it just makes far more sense to just not even attempt to replicate meatiness in your veggies. I've always been a big meat fan, but it really is much easier to accept something that's clearly not meat rather than a knock-off that just reminds you you're not eating meat. It's not universally true or anything, but it feels like everyone who tries to push meat substitutes didn't really like meat much in the first place because there's absolutely a difference. I love veggies and I've always loved veggies so I don't mind making meat-free dishes, but I also like meat and I've never run across any substitutes that make up for it. There's this really good organic grocery store near me that has (well, had) a great hot food bar with tons of stuff like vegan lasagna or "chicken" or whatever. It's all really good on its own merits, but it's not at all like the equivalent meat dishes. The only exceptions I've found are with some of the burger substitutes if you're eating them in place of fast food burgers, but that's a really specific edge case and it's honestly getting less true as fast food burgers start using better meat anyway. If you want to eat less meat, just eat less meat and more veggies. Vegetables are tasty and there's lot of stuff you can do with them without pretending that you're eating something else. Paradoxish has issued a correction as of 19:48 on May 20, 2020 |
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Lady Militant posted:I'm sure the NYC unis are just as cramped and overcrowded as mine (UCF has 63 thousand students), which means any level of in person classes are impossible because the groups will be to big. How tf you going to justify only seating 5% of the students and making the other 95% do the online thing? How will be decided who gets to go in? Will all the old professor wear full PPE for their entire lectures???
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non-replica meatless content is this glorious bot: https://twitter.com/RedwallFeasts/status/1262999823118196737
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May 20, 2020 19:49
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Nocturtle posted:Someone smart made this point in previously itt, but the goal is probably just to trick people to enroll in overpriced master's degree programs now before going online due to the inevitable fall lockdown. South Dakota is absolutely doing this, and then will super aggressively go after anyone who defaults on their student loans
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shovelbum posted:non-replica meatless content is this glorious bot: The feast descriptions in Redwall are the best things to look forward to in every book even when the plots eventually follow the same format.
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Paradoxish posted:It's not universally true or anything, but it feels like everyone who tries to push meat substitutes didn't really like meat much in the first place because there's absolutely a difference. I love veggies and I've always loved veggies so I don't mind making meat-free dishes, but I also like meat and I've never run across any substitutes that make up for it. There's this really organic grocery store near me that has (well, had) a great hot food bar with tons of stuff like vegan lasagna or "chicken" or whatever. It's all really good on its own merits, but it's not at all like the equivalent meat dishes. Also for me it took about four years to get completely comfortable with never having meat at home. It was not easy, and I still go out and get a burger or something every week or so. The food parts of your brain are extremely difficult to change
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Nocturtle posted:Someone smart made this point in previously itt, but the goal is probably just to trick people to enroll in overpriced master's degree programs now before going online due to the inevitable fall lockdown. I sure hope so. I'm like two or three semesters from graduation and all this instability is uh, not great!
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