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Have you ever had those small fruit salad sweet's you used to get from the corner shop? (From the UK). They always echo flavours of that to me.
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Aki. posted:Have you ever had those small fruit salad sweet's you used to get from the corner shop? (From the UK). They always echo flavours of that to me. Yes actually that is almost the closest thing I can think of, except I really like fruit salads and I don't like energy drinks.
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May 21, 2020 21:18
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Okay, I don't want to derail Monster Energy Discourse but I just caught up with this (fantastic) LP and I just can't get my head around what the deal is with Amelie. So her body is on the Beach, so she doesn't grow older for reasons that I assume will become clear later on...but at the same time she's being held hostage in Edge Knot City? How can that be? And why did Die Hard-Man call her Samantha America Strand? Out of all the things that I don't know about this game, this one is bugging me the most for some reason.
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May 21, 2020 22:10
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What happened to satellites and space stations and high flying planes? or is the world literally cut off from the rest of the universe and solar system by time rips and other stuff?
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May 22, 2020 01:17
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Planes gotta land sometime, and if they end up going through clouds with timefall rain they probably get forcibly landed even faster. I imagine space stations without command centers to send supplies/evacuation rockets via timefall or voidout end up more like scenic places to starve. As for satellites, what good are they if the techs who knew the passwords and how to use them and the computing systems needed have largely been blown up?
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May 22, 2020 01:28
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MachuPikacchu posted:And why did Die Hard-Man call her Samantha America Strand? Sometimes folks go by a middle name, and "Amelie" is short for "America" as a name, I guess? Her brother is named Sam, after all. Sam and Samantha. It's not uncommon for those named "Samantha" to also go by "Sam", so maybe she goes by "Amelie" to better differentiate between the two of them?
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May 22, 2020 01:58
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Hideo Kojima posted:Okay, so the name Amelie comes from...
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May 22, 2020 03:22
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Think about this though: what's Sam's actual middle name? Did Bridget named him Sam Porter Strand expecting him to become a porter??? (I advise you don't look it up)
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May 22, 2020 04:16
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May 22, 2020 04:22
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Sam Erica Strand
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May 22, 2020 04:24
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names aren't kojima's strong point my favourite part about death stranding names so far though is the implication that the support team tried to have a naming convention but then mama was like "If any of you tries to call me Mama-man I will actually quit."
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May 22, 2020 05:12
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Sam Bouvier Terwilliger Hutz McClure Strand
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May 22, 2020 05:43
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Sam Sam He's Our Man If He Can't Do It No One Strand edit: Yknow just the other day I was saying to myself "man, I can't believe the thread is already 7 pages after only 3 videos." Now I understand why it is that way.
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May 22, 2020 06:00
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I'm guessing it's like how Solid Snake is also Big Boss but also Punished Snake. In Kojima world, everyone has many names. And weapons to surpass Metal Gear.
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May 22, 2020 06:29
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Captain Hygiene posted:Sam Sam Patriot Strand. So patriotic he can't even die right. Guess there is a reason he goes by Porter now.
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May 22, 2020 07:27
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LashLightning posted:Sometimes folks go by a middle name, and "Amelie" is short for "America" as a name, I guess? Her brother is named Sam, after all. Sam and Samantha. It's not uncommon for those named "Samantha" to also go by "Sam", so maybe she goes by "Amelie" to better differentiate between the two of them? Makes sense - Amelie and Ameri are both reasonable romanisations of the same name.
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May 22, 2020 08:52
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Oh yeah that reminds me: Regarding Sam's name, it's actually already been used as a pun that is completely lost in translation. In fact it's so lost in translation that they just totally changed the lines in English. It'll come up again later and I'll mention it then so I have it on record in the videos, but the name 'Sam' in japanese is pronounced the same as the word 'some' when used in the context of 'a person of note or excellence' (represented in the subtitles as サム and 本物 stuck together into one article). Think of Charlotte's Web and how the spiderweb called Wilbur 'some pig'. Therefore, the joke is that Sam isn't just a porter, he's a really noteworthy one, i.e. 'some porter'. None of that would make any sense at all in english, so they just went whole hog on the 'great deliverer' thing wherever the pun would have been made. Great deliverer? Yeah, he's some porter alright, that Sam Porter. edit: For reference, we know this is a pun because サム without any paired words doesn't mean 'some' and they use the above combined phrase in place of Sam's name (which is... uh, Sam) when it's supposed to be paired with 'bridges' to make the joke, as in "サム ... 本物の橋 - some porter (who works for bridges)". Sam's name in Japanese is just represented by サム without any paired words, pronounced 'Samu' of course. CJacobs fucked around with this message at 09:49 on May 22, 2020 |
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May 22, 2020 09:28
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And also also for reference, Amelie's nickname is in fact a shortened version of her full middle name in Japanese. アメリ = Ameri アメリカ = America All they did was chop off the last character. CJacobs fucked around with this message at 10:13 on May 22, 2020 |
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May 22, 2020 09:53
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CJacobs posted:アメリカ = America 'MURICA *eagle noises*. But also, why America? Edit: I meant why would the story take place in primarily America? Did the rest of the world just get wiped out? SugarAddict fucked around with this message at 10:50 on May 22, 2020 |
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May 22, 2020 10:29
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SugarAddict posted:'MURICA *eagle noises*. Did you not pay attention to who their mother was, she absolutely adored America and wanted it to be whole again, Amelie is literally part of that dream and potentially always has been maybe?
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May 22, 2020 10:36
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SugarAddict posted:'MURICA *eagle noises*. Well it fits the game's themes more than anything, but also North America makes for a good setting geographically because it's temperate but not that humid and is a hotbed of technological development and natural resources. We can probably assume that anywhere particularly rainy or snowy has been completely erased by the timefall. To survive in a world like that of Death Stranding, the tech to withstand the timefall surely had to be made REAL fast, and any countries that didn't get there in time are almost certainly gone for good. It's reasonable to assume that some other technologically advanced countries could've made the jump, China being the key one, but most of the world is probably dead and gone. With that said, given that practically all of the timefall resistant equipment harnesses chiral energy (including the network itself), North America may have been the only one to actually figure out how to harness and use it in time. CJacobs fucked around with this message at 11:36 on May 22, 2020 |
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May 22, 2020 11:29
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CJacobs posted:Well it fits the game's themes more than anything, but also North America makes for a good setting geographically because it's temperate but not that humid and is a hotbed of technological development and natural resources. To survive in a world like that of Death Stranding, the tech to withstand the timefall surely had to be made REAL fast, and any countries that didn't get there in time are almost certainly gone for good. We can probably assume that anywhere particularly rainy or snowy has been completely erased by the timefall. It seems like timefall affects whatever it hits then it stops there. It seems like there could be a few different alternatives to resist timefall. Glass, grass on dirt roof then actual structure underneath that, and then there's caves. Granted there's probably alot of other places that could have survived, it's just a matter of keeping the ghosts out or not attracting their attention. It seems like they are stopped by physical objects like brick and cement, but only stuff like glass actually resists their touch and has to be physically broken by them rather than just them melting though it. Alternatively, there were other nations in other places that existed but the deimos faction wiped them all out and this is the only other nation they haven't decided to wipe out yet. Edit: As I understand it and last I heard about it, China has a vast underground bunker system that spans most of China. It's entirely possible they've survived but due to the location and population density of the locations above the bunkers, it's entirely possible for china to be one vast void out, or just a chain reaction wiped out anything resembling a chain of command they had. SugarAddict fucked around with this message at 11:44 on May 22, 2020 |
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May 22, 2020 11:40
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The problem is you do need a way to safely go out in the timefall to dispose of bodies. Even if you live underground, there has to be some access to the surface for you to get air, and thus a way for any chiralium to reach the surface and attract nearby BTs. They're physical and human-sized creatures, but babies can die too- plugging up every infant-sized crevice in a cave in case of baby BTs is probably not easy. You could seal off a bunker Fallout vault style but the changing topography would eventually entomb you there without constant maintenance. edit: I think it's important to keep in mind too that even one BT renders an area completely uninhabitable. You can't scare them off, you can't kill them, you can't SEE them, and if they so much as touch you a nuclear explosion will instantly occur. As of the latest video it's been revealed that something about Sam's injury from the beginning of the game scared the BT away from him, and Deadman reacted in a way that says it's never happened before. The only way to keep a functioning society going is to make sure no unprocessed chiralium ever comes within the limits of your living space. If it ever happened before you realized that was the requirement, it's already too late, the BTs are comin'. CJacobs fucked around with this message at 12:06 on May 22, 2020 |
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May 22, 2020 11:50
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Capture the smoke, compress it, dispose of it in pods. Even better, use aquamation instead of cremation.
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A body can't release chiralium if it's trapped in a barrel of acid! 
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May 22, 2020 12:16
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CJacobs posted:A body can't release chiralium if it's trapped in a barrel of acid! "Sir, I regret to inform you that there are now Acid Tar Ghosts."
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Megillah Gorilla posted:I'm guessing it's like how Solid Snake is also Big Boss but also Punished Snake. In Kojima world, everyone has many names. Sam, as you know, you were secretly created as a genetic clone of the legendary Big Porter himself as part of the clandestine Les Enfants Lalivraison project
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Captain Hygiene posted:Sam, as you know, you were secretly created as a genetic clone of the legendary Big Porter himself as part of the clandestine Les Enfants Lalivraison project A delivery service to surpass UPS...
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May 22, 2020 16:16
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You will be ashamed of your orders and purchasing history...
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May 22, 2020 16:57
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At least we know Norman Reedus won't be taking off his clothes and dancing in the rain. FAKE EDIT: The internet did not fail me! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl9H6iexJWI
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May 22, 2020 17:17
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In this world of "Just call me X", it would be travesty if Sam's real middle name isn't Cartman.
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May 22, 2020 18:52
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Sam "Mule" Bridges
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So I haven't played the game, but even if the rest of the world survived, if communication is so difficult that ex-Washington DC can't talk with ex-Pittsburgh, some other sensible county like Uzbekistan, Niger, or Even Canada may as well be a far-off myth from maps with labels like "here be dragons." Old folks probably tell anyone who will listen hazily and reverently of the great city of Cancun, land of a hundred pleasures, where their foremothers once visited.
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You jest, but just you wait.
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May 22, 2020 22:59
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CJacobs posted:A body can't release chiralium if it's trapped in a barrel of acid!
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CJacobs posted:And also also for reference, Amelie's nickname is in fact a shortened version of her full middle name in Japanese. So in the Japanese Amelie is named Ameri? That absolutely feels like a cruel accent joke
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May 23, 2020 07:28
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It's still supposed to be 'Amelie' in the japanese version, which makes sense because 'Ameri' isn't a name in any language really. It's just that アメリ is the only way to represent that and it also conveneiently makes for a pun on アメリカ.
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The puns are just getting started
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As far as I know there is no L or R sound in Japanese, there's a sound that is sort of in the middle and which comes out a bit differently depending on the other sounds around it. Which is why people sometimes use them interchangeably, and why there would be no way to specifically transliterate "Amelie" in the same way there is no way to accurately transliterate, say, the words Hannukah, or Dach into English, because English doesn't have a voiceless uvular fricative, so we use closest approximations like H and Ch. Also I had to google for a German word with one in because the only one I can ever remember is Durchfall. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 09:29 on May 23, 2020 |
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OwlFancier posted:As far as I know there is no L or R sound in Japanese, there's a sound that is sort of in the middle and which comes out a bit differently depending on the other sounds around it. Which is why people sometimes use them interchangeably, and why there would be no way to specifically transliterate "Amelie" in the same way there is no way to accurately transliterate, say, the words Hannukah, or Dach into English, because English doesn't have a voiceless uvular fricative, so we use closest approximations like H and Ch. Edit: If you're looking for something German with the voiceless uvular fricative there's always Bach. 
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