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I was at a big company that twice had someone accept a job on our team and then not actually start or start and stay 1 week because they got a better offer. I dont remember either of their names and the conversations about it were like : "Yea what a jerk but I get it". Unless you're a physician moving locally or in a super duper niche industry where reputation matters and the culture would really hate that, no one will blacklist you if you start and quit.
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lovely companies might, but that's a feature not a bug
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May 19, 2020 21:14
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I think the decision and offer, if any, will be in tomorrow. The recruiter for the other job just sent my resume over this afternoon, so who knows when I'll hear back about that, if at all. In the short term, I may just take paying work if they offer it. It's not like it's paying retail wages, no offense to those people. I could just do a lot better if I had my life together and actually pieced together a halfway decent skillset and work history. I have good intentions for things I want to do, and then.... I don't follow through, for various personal issues. But doctors won't prescribe me addy.
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May 19, 2020 21:24
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In situations where, like, you work in the healthcare field you probably shouldn't screw around with offers from Medtronic. And some industries are very tight knit so you need to be careful. Otherwise your usually in the right making the best decision for you in the shortish term. I've had a couple people quit early/retract offers and in each case they made enough apologetic sounds that I didn't really care. It's a pain in the rear end but whatever, that's work. It's not 1955, you're not burning bridges with the only steel plant in town.
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May 20, 2020 00:59
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I'd probably just take this and if the other one goes through say "I'm really sorry, I just got an offer I hadn't been expecting to get and it's an incredible opportunity" blah blah Just try not to do it on Friday when you were due to start on the next Monday, that was a real rude move someone made a few months ago at my job
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May 20, 2020 14:07
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Nah, it's way better to quit before you start than quit a few days after you start, if you care about being rude. But don't care that much about being rude.
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May 20, 2020 15:12
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Can confirm that it's not at all a faux-pa to back out of an offer--it's just a job, and people will understand if they're even remotely being honest that at-will employment cuts both ways, and you have to go with the opportunity that provides you with the best compensation and/or job function. Note: does not apply to contractual work (unless you're DJT, where it's assumed you'll be reneging on any obligations).
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May 20, 2020 15:31
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Ah well, looks like they made the decision for me. On to the next one and selling off a little more of my Fidelity account at ~75% of what it was worth to begin the year.
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May 20, 2020 15:34
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Looking to leave my job and move into IT. I worked at a company that made computer parts for a decade and have very many IT-related skills but never held an official IT title. Can someone look at my resume and see if I have conveyed my skills and qualifications enough? Thanks. https://fckgw.net/imagedump/Anonymized_Resume2019_IT.pdf
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May 21, 2020 17:52
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FCKGW posted:Looking to leave my job and move into IT. I worked at a company that made computer parts for a decade and have very many IT-related skills but never held an official IT title. What jobs are you applying for? Looking at your resume I am unclear what position you are thinking of moving to, and if you're answer is "Anything in IT" you are going to generalize yourself out of a job. The things I see on here that are pluses are the AWS cert (make sure you get that), some words you have about automation (do you have a git or anything on your website to demo those automation skills?) and your work history/bachelors.
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May 21, 2020 18:06
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Lockback posted:What jobs are you applying for? Looking at your resume I am unclear what position you are thinking of moving to, and if you're answer is "Anything in IT" you are going to generalize yourself out of a job. The jobs I'm looking at now are basically "General IT/Helpdesk". Help manage the office tech, know about networking and cloud, that kind of thing. I do have copies of this resume that are tailored to networking, SOC, etc... Here's job description for one of them which seems very wide so I'm not sure how best to approach it: quote:Experience of working in an IT or Desktop Support/System Administration role. I don't have a githib for the automation stuff because it's all work proprietary stuff and I'm not sure if I even have access to it any more Also: Are Cover Letters important? Or just better to have one than not?
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Oh ok. A lot of times people don't want helpdesk type jobs so I guess that's what I get for assuming. Then yeah, that's a reasonably good resume for a job like that (which, what the hell does it want a bachelors in CS for?? anyway). I feel like a little bit of customer satisfaction/client service would help in your resume. Here's a great line in that description: quote:Exposure or some experience to scripting and or programming. Showing us something you've built counts as a bonus! I'd suggest building a few Python doohickeys or whatever you're comfortable with and getting them up somewhere. My best suggestions is find some "First Deep learning Experiments" tutorials because those always knock the socks off people, and aren't that terribly hard if you're just looking to build something to screw around with. Bonus points: Get a free/cheap Azure/AWS account and host it there. My opinion on cover letters is they don't make too much of a difference unless they are explicitly asked for but: 1. If you bother including it, take 20 minutes to write something personalized to the job. I can tell when someone is sending me a cover letter than is sent to every job in 100 miles. 2. People say to get as many resumes out as possible because it's a numbers game, and that's true to an extent, but if you are full-time job hunting a couple times a week you'll probably find a job that looks like a good fit that you have a realistic chance of getting. Take the time for those to write a personalized cover letter, tweak your resume, etc. I'm not saying do that for every job, but those top-tier candidates should get the time.
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May 21, 2020 20:53
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Thanks for the suggestions, I have some python scripts back form my python classes and started to do a "Automated python scripting for IT" course on Coursera, maybe I can dig up the scripts I built for that and just get a few examples going. I also had a lot of customer facing support in my retail job so maybe I can pad that out a bit or emphasis it in my cover letter.
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May 21, 2020 21:34
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So, gonna ask for advice here. I'm just south of 40, veteran and have been in security and law enforcement my entire adult life (Currently a federal employee, Smithsonian security) and I'm tired. I'm tired of wearing a uniform and carrying a gun. I just want to be able to sit down, wear clothes I picked out and semi comfortable shoes. So, I'm looking for office based work. I'm not looking for anything high end or fancy. My husband and I are actually getting ready to move to Florida, from the DC area, partially due to the cost of living difference. Sorry, I'm rambling. Short version-Lifetime in uniform wanting to move to an office assistant or receptionist position. I've got the requisite skill sets, but they've been on the job training, never formal education/training. (I've supervised the movement of nuclear weapons, I can handle managing your dayplanner.)
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May 22, 2020 13:44
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You got a resume? Your best point of transition is probably going to be within law enforcement etc but on the administrative side.
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May 22, 2020 16:23
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:You got a resume? Yeah, I've got a resume and I've done my level best to emphasize my administrative experience, but I don't think it's doing much good, to be honest. (Another reason for our relocating, so I'm no longer competing with a city where the standard greeting is "What's your Masters in?")
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May 22, 2020 17:14
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DantetheK9 posted:So, gonna ask for advice here.
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May 22, 2020 17:58
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DantetheK9 posted:My husband and I are actually getting ready to move to Florida, from the DC area, partially due to the cost of living difference. Be aware that COL in the nicer areas of Florida is ever-rising just like everywhere else, and be prepared to potentially make a lot less down here as well. Everyone I know who has moved here post-30s has been shocked to discover what they're able to earn in the Tampa Bay area compared to home. Afaik, the other hubs aren't much better. Florida has a reputation for being a good cost vs earning balance, and I do have a number of friends with 5-10 corporate years under their belt living that life. But I also know a lot of people struggling paycheck-to-paycheck at an age where they definitely should not be. I don't know many people other than myself who are (barely, in my case) managing to hover in the middle.
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Unsinkabear posted:Be aware that COL in the nicer areas of Florida is ever-rising just like everywhere else, and be prepared to potentially make a lot less down here as well. Everyone I know who has moved here post-30s has been shocked to discover what they're able to earn in the Tampa Bay area compared to home. Afaik, the other hubs aren't much better. We've done the math (repeatedly) and we should be able to maintain our current standard of living pretty handily, even with me making a bit less than I do now.
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May 22, 2020 19:19
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Thanatosian posted:Definitely work on the resume, but have you thought about local government? They'll give you preference points for the veteran thing, and there are plenty of administrative jobs there. If your computer skills are decent (like, Microsoft Office stuff, nothing super heavy), Court Clerk could be a good way to go. That's not a bad idea at all, we're looking at the Orlando metro area primarily, so I'll focus in. (I'm a fairly deft hand with MS Office, I just haven't officially taken courses for it.)
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May 22, 2020 19:20
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who the gently caress has taken courses for office?
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DantetheK9 posted:That's not a bad idea at all, we're looking at the Orlando metro area primarily, so I'll focus in. (I'm a fairly deft hand with MS Office, I just haven't officially taken courses for it.) Brush up on VLookups and pivot tables, that should be adequate to wow most interviewers.
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May 22, 2020 21:10
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:who the gently caress has taken courses for office? The question's been asked. More than once. Pretty sure it's a filtering question. Thanatosian posted:Brush up on VLookups and pivot tables, that should be adequate to wow most interviewers. Y'know, I've seen that in a few places. Thanks for the tip!
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I've thrown a lot of excel/office class brochures in the recycle bin at the po box, if that doesn't count I won't work for you.
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I wonder if "taken a course in Excel" is like an age discrimination question, considering I had quarter courses in high school on Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and uhhh honestly I do not remember the last one, but I will always lean on that if ever asked if I had taken courses on it personally, and surely I am not unique in this experience?
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Dr. Quarex posted:I wonder if "taken a course in Excel" is like an age discrimination question, considering I had quarter courses in high school on Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and uhhh honestly I do not remember the last one, but I will always lean on that if ever asked if I had taken courses on it personally, and surely I am not unique in this experience? If you’re a PhD getting asked this question something is wrong. This is a question people ask office/admin/legal assistant types and maybe finance/accounting types Def dumb to be specific that the learning is in a classroom setting and not instead make a skills based test.
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Dr. Quarex posted:I wonder if "taken a course in Excel" is like an age discrimination question, considering I had quarter courses in high school on Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and uhhh honestly I do not remember the last one, but I will always lean on that if ever asked if I had taken courses on it personally, and surely I am not unique in this experience? Hell, it might be an age thing. They didn't offer courses on any of that when I was in high school. We had typing and a VERY basic computer skills course and that was it. (Graduated from a rural Alabama high school in 2000)
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I've taken courses on Excel as part of PLU's (professional learning units) to keep my teaching cert active. It was a decent experience. I didn't go for the PowerPoint class because LOL who needs a class to do PowerPoint and also people who are experts in PowerPoint are insufferable.
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CarForumPoster posted:If you’re a PhD getting asked this question something is wrong. This is a question people ask office/admin/legal assistant types and maybe finance/accounting types DantetheK9 posted:Hell, it might be an age thing. They didn't offer courses on any of that when I was in high school. We had typing and a VERY basic computer skills course and that was it. (Graduated from a rural Alabama high school in 2000) Plus as part of those office suite classes they implemented a typing speed competition the year I was graduating; I am the pathetic middle-aged guy still bragging about his unbroken high school sports record, if you catch my drift 
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Krispy Wafer posted:I've taken courses on Excel as part of PLU's (professional learning units) to keep my teaching cert active. It was a decent experience. I didn't go for the PowerPoint class because LOL who needs a class to do PowerPoint and also people who are experts in PowerPoint are insufferable. Each page transition animation different from the last!
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Using anything but star wipe for slide transitions is unacceptable.
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What's a good way to address a missing qualification in a cover letter? Is it bad to specifically draw attention to it with some variation of "I don't have ~this qualification~, but I have done these things and I believe those skills are transferable"? Also, I applied at this company a few months ago for an unrelated position, and made it through a phone screen with HR and an on-site interview. Would it be reasonable to send an email to the HR rep I spoke with last time saying that I saw this new opening and I'm still interested in working for this company?
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Baronash posted:1) What's a good way to address a missing qualification in a cover letter? Companies often put way more requirements in the listing than they actually get with the people they hire. That said... 1) Depends on the circumstance. Whats the requirement and what are we substituting for that "requirement"? 2) If what youre offering for that isn't much of a jump, I'd highlight what you have and NOT highlight what you dont. If its a big jump, how do you derisk you as a candidate lacking that? Then say youre doing that. 3) Yes. Apply first, then send the email right after with a verification number and a req ID or link if you have them. Make it easy to find your application and which job you want.
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Moneyball posted:Using anything but star wipe for slide transitions is unacceptable. Fond memories of just slamming everything with the typewriter effect in elementary school e: Also of you lack a requirement as written and are going to talk about it than probably start with what you have and then close with what it is making up for? Shugojin fucked around with this message at 02:57 on May 24, 2020 |
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May 24, 2020 02:55
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Moneyball posted:Using anything but star wipe for slide transitions is unacceptable.
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so I forgot to update or deactivate the lovely linkedin I don't think about and got an email that of my interviewers for tomorrow looked me up on it I'm currently planning to just not bring it up but what if he does
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Shugojin posted:so I forgot to update or deactivate the lovely linkedin I don't think about and got an email that of my interviewers for tomorrow looked me up on it How bad is it? "Oh man, I forgot that was still there" is probably the safest bet, though it makes you seem kind of a doofus. Usually if a Linkedin is kinda crappy I just gloss over it though and don't bring it up. Pro Move: Look at their linkedin and see if you can mine some things worth bringing up.
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Lockback posted:How bad is it? Like it still has my current position its just doesn't really reflect where my role has gone since I updated it last also the photo is old
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Shugojin posted:Like it still has my current position its just doesn't really reflect where my role has gone since I updated it last Eh this happens a LOT and its a very minor flag that I might maybe ask about but wouldn't really put a ton of stock toward. Sound, evidenced based advice: That said, social media can be a huge opportunity. It is a mistake wasting it. I got my first post graduation engineering gig at a prestigious tech company by a recruiter finding my LinkedIn and reaching out. Didn't apply or anything until after a verbal offer had been made. I spent a LOT of time adding recruiters in many fields and areas and making my LinkedIn seem very professional with projects, photos and reviews. More theoretical advice but might set you apart and I believe it did so for me: I don't try to hide my Facebook. I think the people who do are making a mistake. Remember that in hiring you they're hiring you for more than technical ability. They want you to be part of a team and your Facebook can be used to derisk you as a candidate in this regard by showing you leave your house and are funny or interesting. So I decided on an image I could craft with the pictures I had that reflected someone they wanted to work with. My image was "charismatic car guy that girls like". Now you should know, I am short and a little overweight and a nerd including about cars. To execute on this I made sure none of my posts were public and then allowed images that supported the narrative public. It was a bunch of picture of me looking like a nerd swing dancing with beautiful girls, then me covered in transmission fluid and at the local drag strip. I believe that multiple interviewers looked at these and felt more comfortable with me as a result. When asked about what I liked to do I talked about the thing they already KNEW I liked to do. I also had all the years and months of jobs on Facebook line up with my LinkedIn. EDIT: I'd be remiss if I didn't say it's also a potent liability if you do it wrong. Absolutely no political posts. Absolutely no images of you being drunk or doing stupid or illegal stuff. No hints of drug use at all (dreads, bob marley posters, innocuous stuff can be interpreted that way). Consider whats in the backgrounds. Delete comments that dont support your narrative. Etc. etc. You want them to project their own biases on you that you run through the filter of this clean social media image. You then confirm those in an interview. If you can't do that, hide your social media. CarForumPoster fucked around with this message at 15:26 on May 26, 2020 |
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Well it went OKAY and I was careful to not say a number first. but we will see
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