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I bet Boris is worried that a pissed off Cummings that he throws under a bus is going to go full "I'm taking you all with me" on him and everyone else he perceives as having been involved (which is everyone lol). 119 is the emergency number in Jamaica and is/was going to be a covid specific NHS emergency number
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Cummings'll never resign and Boris is probably too scared of him to sack him, so I'm not sure how this gets resolved lol.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:I bet Boris is worried that a pissed off Cummings that he throws under a bus is going to go full "I'm taking you all with me" on him and everyone else he perceives as having been involved (which is everyone lol). Him going full supervillain mode would be absolutely wonderful 
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May 24, 2020 12:16
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https://twitter.com/AllieHBNews/status/1264513792697917440?s=20 lol https://twitter.com/Simon_Vessey/status/1264514805655908352?s=20 Jose fucked around with this message at 12:21 on May 24, 2020 |
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May 24, 2020 12:19
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he could resign quickly, leave his mobile number on a post-it in no.10, have peston laurak etc write obsequious eulogies about the "controversial but brilliant figure" and then back in no.10 by august. but he wont because 'winning' his mind games with the media class and proving he is untouchable is more important than absolutely anything else.
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May 24, 2020 12:20
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i hope someone's keeping an eye on the back in case he tries to hop over the fence and leg it back to Durham again
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May 24, 2020 12:21
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Best outcome at this point is he gets sacked and immediately leaks horrific secrets about the whole cabinet. Maybe Laura will even let one or two go public if we're lucky. stev fucked around with this message at 12:23 on May 24, 2020 |
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May 24, 2020 12:21
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Angepain posted:i hope someone's keeping an eye on the back in case he tries to hop over the fence and leg it back to Durham again probably left the bins out for him to land on line that other tory who skipped out of a hustings
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May 24, 2020 12:24
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I like this article because at face value it reads that she sent £13.4 billion in overseas aid to a whatsapp group. Which is also entirely believable to be honest.
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May 24, 2020 12:26
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he'll go quietly, if he goes, and be folded back into no. 10s operations somehow by year end; probably via gove. boris is an excellent campaigner but in office he dithers for some reason, i guess laziness. he's trying to delay an inevitable decision because it's uncomfortable. the longer this goes on the less cabinet members will be willing to play along as they'll fear looking (more) foolish on the inevitable reversal. if he doesn't go at all, then it will be common currency that cummings has the whip hand over him.
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May 24, 2020 12:30
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^^^ Boris isn't an excellent campaigner. He has always relied on a cult of personality based on cheery nature and propped up by the tabloids. HIGNFY did more to get him into Number 10 than the entire Conservative machine.Red Oktober posted:My money is on him going now. This is the Sunday times today: We already knew that the Tories have lost Murdoch. Nice to have more evidence, though, especially when you consider how good he is at knowing when the Tories are finished. Jedit fucked around with this message at 12:38 on May 24, 2020 |
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May 24, 2020 12:36
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stev posted:Maybe Laura will even let one or two go public if we're lucky. I've just had breakfast
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May 24, 2020 12:40
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The worry is that they end up propping up labour and we end up repeating the blair years.
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Rustybear posted:he'll go quietly, if he goes, and be folded back into no. 10s operations somehow by year end; probably via gove. I think Boris is now encountering the divide amongst the Tories that was ever-widening when May was in office and Brexit was going completely tits-up, but that was temporarily papered over with the election victory and the huge majority. It never went away though, and however some Tories feel personally about what Cummies did (probably don't give a gently caress) they will absolutely exploit the situation for leverage or influence. With Cummies gone, you'd have to imagine it leaving a large influence gap right at the top.
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May 24, 2020 12:42
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Jedit posted:We already knew that the Tories have lost Murdoch. Nice to have more evidence, though, especially when you consider how good he is at knowing when the Tories are finished. I don't think the Tories have lost Murdoch, just that Johnson has. They'll be back to slobbering over PM Gove's brilliant brain.
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May 24, 2020 12:48
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Bardeh posted:I think Boris is now encountering the divide amongst the Tories that was ever-widening when May was in office and Brexit was going completely tits-up, but that was temporarily papered over with the election victory and the huge majority. It never went away though, and however some Tories feel personally about what Cummies did (probably don't give a gently caress) they will absolutely exploit the situation for leverage or influence. With Cummies gone, you'd have to imagine it leaving a large influence gap right at the top. a lot of MPs had grown accustomed to the power a minority government afforded them individually; obviously once boris had his stonking majority no.10 just stopped returning all their calls. steve baker is definitely in this category.
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May 24, 2020 12:51
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Aramoro posted:Is this the 10th of May visit to Durham? There's tweets about that one? There's a tweet, and it's at the actual time which is good rather than post-hoc, but there's no photographs yet. And the fact he's denying it means that if he was there he's pretty sure he's not been snapped.
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May 24, 2020 12:53
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Ash Crimson posted:in a way, i feel bad for cummies, as a parasite he is only doing what is necessary for him to survive, much like an outer body, free roaming tapeworm with a tad more sentience but sacrifices must be made... OwlFancier posted:The worry is that they end up propping up labour and we end up repeating the blair years.
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May 24, 2020 12:56
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Guavanaut posted:I don't think they can as long as Mr Forensic is even slightly accountable to the mass membership, Blair was able to take advantage of a period where nobody cared about holding the technocracy to account and discontent was vented more by Chumbawamba than Conference. I'm holding on to see how true that is this year. We can hope, but I'm also skeptical that the committed left message would actually hold up in the face of "we can win and you can forget about it" Not that that isn't an important thing to try, but I am skeptical that we have the numbers for that currently.
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May 24, 2020 12:58
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Guavanaut posted:Except that some tapeworms, when themselves diseased, will detach to prevent spreading the disease, rather than traveling to Durham to infect their parents and the whole city. Some parasitic worms even modulate the host immune response to prevent autoimmune diseases while training it to attack diseases that are harmful to the worms, being more symbiotic than parasitic, whereas Dom has never improved anything in his life even if it would tangentially make things easier for him. yeah, to be fair a case could be made that some parasites have influenced humanity in much more positive ways than cummy cumcums ever has or will
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May 24, 2020 13:01
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Lol https://twitter.com/RichardA/status/1264522834526822401?s=19
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OwlFancier posted:We can hope, but I'm also skeptical that the committed left message would actually hold up in the face of "we can win and you can forget about it" Not that I expect much more than postwar reformism as a compromise, but the membership is much larger and more radical than it was for Blair, and is happy to donate time and money if the leadership makes the right noises and appointments. Did anyone ever figure out where Blair got all the money for his election campaign from when the party had a tiny membership, and where they're buried?
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May 24, 2020 13:15
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May 24, 2020 13:31
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It's been pointed out that today is the one year anniversary of May's resignation speech.
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stev posted:It's been pointed out that today is the one year anniversary of May's resignation speech. She was just ahead of the curve on social distancing. Meanwhile the government leaving all their press briefings up on their youtube channel has proved useful for Labour https://twitter.com/UKLabour/status/1264532041380638725
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Leakage Rude Dude With Tude posted:She was just ahead of the curve on social distancing. More than half the replies to that are people saying "What about Stephen Kinnock??", and calls for him to be sacked from his job of being an MP, which is a thing that is totally possible... Bobstar fucked around with this message at 13:45 on May 24, 2020 |
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May 24, 2020 13:39
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first straight up retraction? https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1264536366462926848?s=20
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May 24, 2020 13:40
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tfw you hold a record for putting things up your arse.
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Dead Goon posted:tfw you hold a record for putting things up your arse. loving shrinkflation.
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Dead Goon posted:tfw you hold a record for putting things up your arse. 
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May 24, 2020 13:59
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National shame. Next you'll be telling me the creme egg man was using mini ones.
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How is it THIS that makes the comfortable middle class types rage? Not the highest homeless population in living memory, not bombs we made murdering innocent children, not the Tories murdering innocent disabled people, not all the injustices against immigrants and workers, not the mere existence of billionaires, not decades of institutionalised racism in the police and child abuse in the upper echelons of power but... one dude breaking the rules? Why is it this that gets peoples' goat?
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thespaceinvader posted:How is it THIS that makes the comfortable middle class types rage? Because people have been directly affected by the thing he ignored. Only inconvenienced, for the most part, but affected.
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thespaceinvader posted:How is it THIS that makes the comfortable middle class types rage? something that directly impacts them https://twitter.com/hannahrosewoods/status/1264506682970906624?s=20
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thespaceinvader posted:How is it THIS that makes the comfortable middle class types rage? Same reason people get mad at people queue jumping. He's breaking the rules, this cannot stand. I want to speak to the manager etc.
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thespaceinvader posted:How is it THIS that makes the comfortable middle class types rage? If you have a chimp and you give him 5 grapes, he'll be pretty happy with the result. If you have 2 chimps and you give Chimpan-A 5 grapes and Chimpan-B 10 grapes, Chimpan-A loses his poo poo. Extrapolate to the rest of the hominids
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thespaceinvader posted:How is it THIS that makes the comfortable middle class types rage? Because by nature of the fact that it's one person being a hypocrite, it has the full weight of the press behind it and is extremely easy to internalize. It's peak liberal politics, and you will also find that it doesn't go any deeper for most of them than this one person. It is not indicative of a systemic problem that traces back further than you can imagine, it's just this one guy getting caught in a lie. You can be outraged at that and then when it goes away you can feel good about it. You'll note that a lot of people are saying that there can't be one rule for the people at the top and one rule for the rest of us, and for a lot of them, that literally means that there isn't normally, or that it normally is at an "acceptable" level. They aren't actually radical egalitarians, but this lets them feel like they're principled for once in their lives. The world is full of people who absolutely love to be catty and self righteous and this affords near everyone a chance to do it, and nobody except the least likeable tories will call them out on it. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 14:56 on May 24, 2020 |
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I don't understand people sometimes. I'm reminded of a discussion that took place in a medical stats class during my uni years, tio the tune of whether 1 in 4 'felt' higher, or 25% 'felt' higher. They're the same, they feel the same, but literally everyone else in the group felt that one or other felt higher. Maybe I will just never understand people.
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thespaceinvader posted:I don't understand people sometimes. It's all framing. It's the "would you rather save 60% or allow 40% to die" issue. Our brains are hard wired to reject anything portrayed in a negative or incomplete light.
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