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SoggyBobcat posted:Actually I believe most Korean and Chinese Christians are of the evangelical variety due to the work of American missionaries. There's evangelical and then there is American evangelical.
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Telsa Cola posted:His approval ratings have been garbo during a national crisis and only saw a tiny tiny bump. I read an article on the Correspondent that compared Trump's approval ratings to his predecessors, and the notable thing was that while Trump's rating was not high, it was really consistent, as opposed to Obama/Bush/Clinton/etc who would have sharp dips and peaks. It's like, his base doesn't care what he does, and to most other people it simply doesn't matter. There wasn't really a solid conclusion, other than the idea that the president doesn't really have to 'do' anything anymore. Not lead, take command or responsibility. Just be a guy who talks.
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davidspackage posted:I read an article on the Correspondent that compared Trump's approval ratings to his predecessors, and the notable thing was that while Trump's rating was not high, it was really consistent, as opposed to Obama/Bush/Clinton/etc who would have sharp dips and peaks. It's like, his base doesn't care what he does, and to most other people it simply doesn't matter. There wasn't really a solid conclusion, other than the idea that the president doesn't really have to 'do' anything anymore. Not lead, take command or responsibility. Just be a guy who talks. they elected him to hurt their enemies and he's doing that. Nothing else matters. As long as he makes sure more New Yorkers die of covid-19 and withholds aid from blue states, these people will crawl to the polls to pull the lever for him as their lungs liquify and their children all nod off from heroin. That's exactly what "promises kept" means.
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DarkCrawler posted:You mean the guy who created the whole loving concept of a virus? The virus is merely an extension of His divine hand, and only kills sinners.
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May 24, 2020 21:04
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Cup Runneth Over posted:south korea presumably lacks the insane strain of conservative evangelical that is common to America https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/26/asia/shincheonji-south-korea-hnk-intl/index.html
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May 24, 2020 21:09
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Also: the Unification Church
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May 24, 2020 21:14
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Cup Runneth Over posted:south korea presumably lacks the insane strain of conservative evangelical that is common to America this is not true at all. in fact the biggest surge in south korea came from a cult like church group in daegu it's the fact that the rest of the country actually got mad at them so they basically capitulated and apologized and started working with the government on containing it. if that happened in the states. the pastor would have doubled-down, because our entire country is very hosed up.
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May 24, 2020 21:47
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Strong Sauce posted:this is not true at all. in fact the biggest surge in south korea came from a cult like church group in daegu The pastor in the US state would have been able to do a $500k Freedom GoFundMe after getting brutally repressed by a stay at home order.
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May 24, 2020 21:48
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DarkCrawler posted:There's evangelical and then there is American evangelical. i once had an evangelical christian korean-american (1st or 2nd gen immigrant, goes to a korean church) in my circle of friends. when a jewish man we all knew unexpectedly died young from a heart attack, he thought it was reasonable to announce that he was in hell unless he had accepted jesus christ on his deathbed. incidentally, several of the friends he announced this to were also jewish. a really cool and good strategy for evangelizing! that was years ago and last i'd heard he had shed his conservative upbringing, went through an alcoholism phase, and is now living happily as openly gay. in summary: there aren't as many differences as you'd imagine.
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according to wiki, the religious breakdown in SK is; -No religion (56.1%) -Protestant Christianity (19.7%) -Korean Buddhism (15.5%) -Catholic Christianity (7.9%) -Other (0.8%) So there's a pretty significant chunk of bible thumpers there. edit: made me curious to compare it to glorious nippon: -Buddhism and Shintoism[note 1] (91.6%) -Christianity (1.5%) -others (6.9%) the land of anime stays winning 
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Mr Interweb posted:according to wiki, the religious breakdown in SK is; America: - Protestantism (48.9%) - Catholicism (23.0%) - Mormonism (1.8%) - No religion (18.2%) - Judaism (2.1%) - Islam (0.8%) - Other religion (2.5%) - No response given/Unknown (2.7%) So maybe you can guess why the circumstances are different?
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May 24, 2020 22:05
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Cup Runneth Over posted:south korea presumably lacks the insane strain of conservative evangelical that is common to America In my own interactions with South Korean Christians in the US they have tended toward the kind of conservative devotionalism that I was very familiar with growing up in a Baptist church
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Cup Runneth Over posted:America: except the SK protestant evangelical minority was kinda severely overrepresented in the military dictatorship we were propping up there for fifty years so, yanno, that narrows the gap a bit on how much batshit "christians" influence the government.
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Why don't these people just look at it as "thank God he gave us masks, gloves, the free will to isolate and social distance along with the tools we need to protect ourselves?" What's the old joke about how God gave someone a boat, a helicopter and whatever it was to save them from a flood? BiggerBoat has issued a correction as of 22:44 on May 24, 2020 |
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If you want better ideas on this then the D&D Koreas thread is very much not succ, so ask in there.
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BiggerBoat posted:Why don't these people just look at it as "thank God he gave us masks, gloves, the free will to isolate and social distance along with the tools we need to protect ourselves?" I always think back to that old af joke: "There was a flood and as his neighbours loaded their car and offered him a ride to safety, the man stayed at his front door and said 'no need, God will save me' Later the flooding got worse, and he was trapped on the second floor. Another man sailed by in a speedboat and saw the survivor, and offered him a lift in the boat, to which he replied 'no need, God will save me' Finally, the waters rose yet again and he was trapped on the roof. A helicopter flew overhead and dropped a rope ladder down to him. Yet again he declined: 'no need, God will save me' The man drowned, and when he reached the afterlife he complained to God 'why didn't you save me?' And God replied: I sent your neighbour, a speedboat and a helicopter, what more do you loving want from me?"
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:they elected him to hurt their enemies and he's doing that. Nothing else matters. If you’re a short sighted sadist this is probably the best president of your lifetime.
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BiggerBoat posted:Why don't these people just look at it as "thank God he gave us masks, gloves, the free will to isolate and social distance along with the tools we need to protect ourselves?" because they dont want to do those things
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May 24, 2020 22:38
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BiggerBoat posted:We have a cartoonish, unapologetic evil political party that's wiping their rear end with the constitution right in front of our face every day - daring us to do anything about it - and an ineffectual, powerless, milquetoast and gutless opposition party that roughly one third of the population thinks hates jesus, wants to abolish Christmas and rapes children in underground pizza parlors. The Conspiracy Theories A Conservative Must Believe Today quote:1. The belief that 10,000 climate scientists all around the world are either stupid, or engaged in a massive criminal conspiracy to concoct bad science in order to receive…more government grant funding. And that no other scientists are exposing it.
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May 24, 2020 22:47
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duz posted:because they dont want to do those things Well, ok. Join the fuckin club I guess. Aren't they happy they still have a hundred guns? Tesseraction posted:I always think back to that old af joke: That was it. So substitute masks, gloves and a safe home then. I'm having a hard time figuring these people out. Harder than usual I mean. This pandemic has really laid bare the things we prioritize and how people...well..."think" I suppose. I hate to be Mr. Smug Atheist Guy but I'm gently caress all if I can find anything worth following in these people's beliefs but the older I get and the worse this kind of thinking permeates, its loving depressing feeling like I increasingly live on my island of logic. Also so loving tired of centrists whining about "both sides" - which I run into a lot - from sports talk radio to my dumb FB page (that I should probably erase). The gently caress do these people SEE in this person that inspires ANYTHING, let alone the teachings of the Bible?
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May 24, 2020 22:54
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BiggerBoat posted:Well, ok. Join the fuckin club I guess. Aren't they happy they still have a hundred guns? I think for people raised to believe strongly in individualism and American exceptionalism there’s a powerful draw to replace reality with whatever you want it to be, if you’re the protagonist in life not just another human on the planet it doesn’t make sense to inconvenience yourself for anyone else. Like a lot of these people are uncoupled from reality which is why their behavior doesn’t make sense.
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May 24, 2020 23:04
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Only covid 19 can save america
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the thing is. apparently the entire world is against their beliefs [img-skinner-no-its-the-rest-of-the-world-whos-stupid] back on topicish https://twitter.com/katienotopoulos/status/1264668632237445120 https://twitter.com/boshj/status/1264657844323876870 https://twitter.com/ItsJeffHiggins/status/1264670377671888898 the thing is, even if covid-19 is among these people and people start dying because of this gathering. no one will learn anything from this.
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May 24, 2020 23:27
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I don't want them to learn, I just want them to die
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Strong Sauce posted:no one will learn anything from this. This is universally true without any conditions or modifiers.
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WHY BONER NOW posted:I thought you weren't supposed to test God anyone who thinks they can test god without god instantly picking the worst possible outcome for you clearly hasn't read even a single page of the bible
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BattleMaster posted:anyone who thinks they can test god without god instantly picking the worst possible outcome for you clearly hasn't read even a single page of the bible Maybe this is just God making the US go through the story of Job?
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DarkCrawler posted:Too many Americans think that their mom or hometown buddy being nice to them personally means they aren't an insane piece of poo poo wrecking untold damage on America and the world, and their only interaction with them should be either committing them to a mental hospital or cutting all ties if they don't do that. no
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Strong Sauce posted:the thing is. apparently the entire world is against their beliefs Yeah, that's the problem. 95+% of those people, even if they do get sick, will be fine. Maybe at worst they'll experience a (bad) flu that they can rationalise like it's no big deal, and they simply won't care about the people there that actually die. "They could've died in a car accident too, you know. Actually that's far more likely." Meanwhile they literally won't even think about how they're actually spreading it, even if (or especially when) they don't have any (bad) symptoms. Like, the other day I was doing my grocery shopping and the person I was with (part of my household, we took care to keep 2m distance) made a joke, I laughed, and some saliva went into my windpipe as it sometimes does when you're unlucky. I had to cough a couple of times, and it was drat uncomfortable for the rest of the shopping trip. My first thoughts were: 1) poo poo, everyone is going to think I've got a bad cough. Better talk (kinda loud and obvious) about how some saliva went the wrong way so people don't worry that I might infect them because I'm the kind of rear end in a top hat that goes shopping when they're ill. 2) poo poo, I could be asymptomatic and be spreading this poo poo even though I don't want to, better get out of here fast as I can. I took a bottle of coke of from a shelf, opened it and drank some to supress the cough, told the cashier why I did it, and (I hope) everything is fine. I guarantee you none of those people would never even entertain those thoughts, or anything close to it.
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Hi mom, congrats on getting teacher of the year again. I know we’re in the middle of a global pandemic and you’ve been leading efforts at the school to create safe childcare for children of first responders, but I’m going to have to pull you away from that and lock you up in the MENTAL HOSPITAL because four years ago you “voted against Hillary Clinton” after 20 years of Fox News brainwashing
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Cup Runneth Over posted:south korea presumably lacks the insane strain of conservative evangelical that is common to America Naw, they were converted by insane conservative evengelicals.
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Thoguh posted:Naw, they were converted by insane conservative evengelicals. The Japanese were pretty brilliant keeping fundie christians out of their country for as long as possible.
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:Hi mom, congrats on getting teacher of the year again. I know we’re in the middle of a global pandemic and you’ve been leading efforts at the school to create safe childcare for children of first responders, but I’m going to have to pull you away from that and lock you up in the MENTAL HOSPITAL because four years ago you “voted against Hillary Clinton” after 20 years of Fox News brainwashing They gave another option.
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maybe he was just coughing ironically, which is a thing chuds are doing now to own the https://twitter.com/ananavarro/status/1264197952270106625
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BiggerBoat posted:my dumb FB page (that I should probably erase). Do it. You will never look back.
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:Hi mom, congrats on getting teacher of the year again. I know we’re in the middle of a global pandemic and you’ve been leading efforts at the school to create safe childcare for children of first responders, but I’m going to have to pull you away from that and lock you up in the MENTAL HOSPITAL because four years ago you “voted against Hillary Clinton” after 20 years of Fox News brainwashing I don't care about that teacher poo poo, your mom sucks forever
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https://twitter.com/TomiLahren/status/1264669324733829121 [cue-dril-tweet]
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