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knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

ro5s posted:

It’s the Tory version of the ten dollar banana, it’s amazing.

No inheritance tax on woodland.

January 1936: Joseph Stalin views Dmitri Shostakovich's opera "Lady Macbeth" but he and his officials leave early and the play is denounced in state press.

knox_harrington fucked around with this message at 17:15 on May 25, 2020

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Magic Mango
Aug 31, 2006

Only fools are enslaved by time and space.
Lol the Barnard Castle thing is falling apart completely.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
ok so his argument is literally that he's very important and does important work so needs to break the regulations

nobody else as important as him

seems like the tories need a better system for relieving people on sick leave

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Communist Thoughts posted:

he's running the successful strategy that won him the brex referendum and the general. i think it could work here too, basically you accept that the twittersphere and liberal media means literally loving nothing with regards to elections (at least for the right, it obvs matters quite a lot for the left coz people are more media credulous) and that everyone loving loathes the media

he's right too, if given the choice between burying cummings in a hole or the UK media in a hole i'd be tearfully saying goodbye to owen jones

like the GE and ref it all depends on the tory party holding together and not shaking apart under the media pressure

the whole reason he's doing this is that this is it's gone beyond the twittersphere and liberal media and tory voters are mad as hell

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





Pesmerga posted:

No he's not, he's going to be fine.

You are absolutely right and I loving hate that. This'll be out of the news cycle by next week with no repercussions on Boris or Cummings.

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you
The whole Barnard Castle thing is not the massive gotcha everyone seems to think it is.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Pesmerga posted:

The whole Barnard Castle thing is not the massive gotcha everyone seems to think it is.

up until an hour ago it was a vicious left-wing fiction

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
I think he's enjoying this now actually

Except at the end there after mentioning Mary

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



Finally someone asks him about his wife's article in the Spectator!

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Fundamentally he thinks his circumstances are completely unique and exceptional and no one else could possibly have themselves and their wife Ill while having an ill child, and that gives him the right to take the absolute piss with the rules. What he doesn’t understand is that his circumstances apply to literally hundreds of thousands of other families who’ve had to make sacrifices.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Venomous posted:

You are absolutely right and I loving hate that. This'll be out of the news cycle by next week with no repercussions on Boris or Cummings.

potentially, but everyone's (mostly) still stuck in doors with not much to do and feeling a bit frustrated, also the only things likely to drive it out of the news are more government gently caress ups

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Drone_Fragger posted:

Fundamentally he thinks his circumstances are completely unique and exceptional and no one else could possibly have themselves and their wife Ill while having an ill child, and that gives him the right to take the absolute piss with the rules. What he doesn’t understand is that his circumstances apply to literally hundreds of thousands of other families who’ve had to make sacrifices.

Ah but you see his giant brain holds the very fate of the nation in the balance

Edit:

XMNN posted:

potentially, but everyone's (mostly) still stuck in doors with not much to do and feeling a bit frustrated, also the only things likely to drive it out of the news are more government gently caress ups

Or a strategically announced easing of part of the lockdown to grab headlines.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Drone_Fragger posted:

Fundamentally he thinks his circumstances are completely unique and exceptional and no one else could possibly have themselves and their wife Ill while having an ill child, and that gives him the right to take the absolute piss with the rules.

I do think that he'll be able to brazen it out precisely because of this, though. He genuinely believes he is of a different order to everyone else, and if he repeats it enough I can totally see people accepting it

pitch a fitness
Mar 19, 2010

Venomous posted:

You are absolutely right and I loving hate that. This'll be out of the news cycle by next week with no repercussions on Boris or Cummings.

It's insane that the only actual consequences he'd face would be resigning to spend 6-12 months in a NGO / think tank before returning back to post. And that's not acceptable enough for him

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Drone_Fragger posted:

Fundamentally he thinks his circumstances are completely unique and exceptional and no one else could possibly have themselves and their wife Ill while having an ill child, and that gives him the right to take the absolute piss with the rules. What he doesn’t understand is that his circumstances apply to literally hundreds of thousands of other families who’ve had to make sacrifices.

Yeah this is the major point. You can side with them or with Cummings but it's utterly obvious which side you're on and no way to spin it otherwise.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Necrothatcher posted:

is there medical advice from a doctor that's not "expert medical advice?"


Also at least two thirds of advice on specialist concerns from GPs or from specialists talking outside of their area.

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

I'm gonna say this is the other way - they have been expecting the public to be bending or breaking the rules like this. If they wanted the rules to be hard and firm they would have put more effort into enforcing them, but they haven't. All the people going to the beach etc. suggested the public were not following the letter of the law. Therefore, they didn't expect this to be a problem. It explains the response as well - they keep trying to explain it to say actually anyone in these circumstances would do the same - but the problem is that going to the beach is one thing, driving your sick family 260 miles is another.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol at this tory mp

https://twitter.com/ABridgen/status/1264918003940036609?s=20

Subbz
Nov 4, 2008

Pesmerga posted:

The whole Barnard Castle thing is not the massive gotcha everyone seems to think it is.

Wasn’t the trip on the same day as his wife’s birthday? Coincidental that.

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

Journalist there exposing that Cummings doesn't actually have friends.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Haha, he so nearly said that asking neighbours or friends for help would be breaking guidelines so he went to Durham instead.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

zentigeist posted:

I am legitimately pissed I've not sucked dick in literally 10 weeks to SAVE LIVES but Cumming's gets to infect every forest north of London on his magical journey and he can get away with it??


AM I THE MUG IN THIS SITUATION?

Barry Foster posted:

I mean, apparently, yes

Not really. I know everyone is entirely focused on Cummings breaking The Rules because that is to English people the worst thing it is possible to do, but recall also that he exposed his loved ones to a potentially deadly disease for no good reason. The point of not sucking dick for a few months isn't because the police will arrest you, it's that that dick could be the one that kills you. If you avoid the lockdown because Cummings did it you might now get a pass in the court of Twitter opinion, but I don't think coronavirus cares much one way or another.

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you

Necrothatcher posted:

up until an hour ago it was a vicious left-wing fiction

It's all still vicious and left-wing.

Subbz posted:

Wasn't the trip on the same day as his wife's birthday? Coincidental that.

He'll shrug and say coincidence. It's like people think that they'll catch him in an inconsistency, and he'll suddenly scream and go up in a puff of smoke, ending his reign forever more. He's made it clear he's not going anywhere, he's begrudgingly giving his time to this spectacle, and afterwards he'll go back to what he's doing, while he and the Prime Minister continually say that it's all already been addressed by this press conference.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


namesake posted:

Haha, he so nearly said that asking neighbours or friends for help would be breaking guidelines so he went to Durham instead.

He literally did say this, he said if he was really ill then his sisters kids could look after them, but asking someone in London to do it would be “unnecessarily exposing people to risk”

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

Crimes! Crimes! Crimes!

https://mobile.twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1264946980024958984

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

big scary monsters posted:

I know everyone is entirely focused on Cummings

big scary monsters posted:

that dick could be the one that kills you.
He's trying his best.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

big scary monsters posted:

Not really. I know everyone is entirely focused on Cummings breaking The Rules because that is to English people the worst thing it is possible to do, but recall also that he exposed his loved ones to a potentially deadly disease for no good reason. The point of not sucking dick for a few months isn't because the police will arrest you, it's that that dick could be the one that kills you. If you avoid the lockdown because Cummings did it you might now get a pass in the court of Twitter opinion, but I don't think coronavirus cares much one way or another.

I know mate, just bants

I'm not going to be breaking my own lockdown over this, because I'm not a loving sociopath

pitch a fitness
Mar 19, 2010


https://twitter.com/joolsd/status/1264948599940681728?s=19

Magic Mango
Aug 31, 2006

Only fools are enslaved by time and space.
My parents’ spare house on their estate next to their private woods isn’t even very nice, actually

Shogi
Nov 23, 2004

distant Pohjola
This poo poo is so full of framing devices, deflections and irrelevant waffle that it's hard to stay focused, but I think I got his story:

*Heard Boris had the 'rona, so I kept getting right up close to as many people as possible til wifey got sick.

*I had to drive to Durham because gangs of partisans were scaling the walls to smother my family or smth. I wasn't ill so it wasn't dangerous. Even wifey just had the pukes, this wasn't about rona at all!

*I was seen walking in woodland but that's fine because it's Private Land. Please ignore that everything in England is private land with varying public rights of access, this was just like walking in one of your 'back gardens'.

*Did this for childcare but had no contact with any of my family closer than 15m.

*Got ill then went for a Responsible, Reasonable test drive to Barnard Castle. Felt a bit sick so had to walk along a popular hiking route along the River Tees where I got seen repeatedly.

*Then the kid had to piss this time round so we had to walk through woodland again and got seen again.

*My situation was so complicated and intelligent that I understand your uncomprehending, almost bovine anger. Really this is all the media's fault for reporting my actions. It's their fault if people die.

*I will now take softball questions from Laura and Robert while stuttering and gulping like a landed fish.

Are people really thick enough to swallow this pile of shite?

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you

Shogi posted:

This poo poo is so full of framing devices, deflections and irrelevant waffle that it's hard to stay focused, but I think I got his story:

*Heard Boris had the 'rona, so I kept getting right up close to as many people as possible til wifey got sick.

*I had to drive to Durham because gangs of partisans were scaling the walls to smother my family or smth. I wasn't ill so it wasn't dangerous. Even wifey just had the pukes, this wasn't about rona at all!

*I was seen walking in woodland but that's fine because it's Private Land. Please ignore that everything in England is private land with varying public rights of access, this was just like walking in one of your 'back gardens'.

*Did this for childcare but had no contact with any of my family closer than 15m.

*Got ill then went for a Responsible, Reasonable test drive to Barnard Castle. Felt a bit sick so had to walk along a popular hiking route along the River Tees where I got seen repeatedly.

*Then the kid had to piss this time round so we had to walk through woodland again and got seen again.

*My situation was so complicated and intelligent that I understand your uncomprehending, almost bovine anger. Really this is all the media's fault for reporting my actions. It's their fault if people die.

*I will now take softball questions from Laura and Robert while stuttering and gulping like a landed fish.

Are people really thick enough to swallow this pile of shite?

They don't need to. They just need to do it so that they can repeat the line that it's all already been discussed, and going on about it is just taking away from the valuable work of STAYING ALERT and GETTING BREXIT DONE and PROTECTING OUR NHS and GO BACK TO WORK.

Edit: and right on cue https://twitter.com/kevinhollinrake/status/1264947655404371968?s=20

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
https://twitter.com/Aiannucci/status/1264954882932510722

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Shogi posted:

Are people really thick enough to swallow this pile of shite?

This country decided Boris Johnson was more trustworthy than Jeremy Corbyn. Of course people are thick enough to swallow this. "British public wrong about nearly everything"

Answers Me
Apr 24, 2012
Why have these clowns stopped using the microphone?

e: oh, so Peston can filibuster some more.

Blasmeister
Jan 15, 2012




2Time TRP Sack Race Champion

Shogi posted:

This poo poo is so full of framing devices, deflections and irrelevant waffle that it's hard to stay focused, but I think I got his story:

*Heard Boris had the 'rona, so I kept getting right up close to as many people as possible til wifey got sick.

*I had to drive to Durham because gangs of partisans were scaling the walls to smother my family or smth. I wasn't ill so it wasn't dangerous. Even wifey just had the pukes, this wasn't about rona at all!

*I was seen walking in woodland but that's fine because it's Private Land. Please ignore that everything in England is private land with varying public rights of access, this was just like walking in one of your 'back gardens'.

*Did this for childcare but had no contact with any of my family closer than 15m.

*Got ill then went for a Responsible, Reasonable test drive to Barnard Castle. Felt a bit sick so had to walk along a popular hiking route along the River Tees where I got seen repeatedly.

*Then the kid had to piss this time round so we had to walk through woodland again and got seen again.

*My situation was so complicated and intelligent that I understand your uncomprehending, almost bovine anger. Really this is all the media's fault for reporting my actions. It's their fault if people die.

*I will now take softball questions from Laura and Robert while stuttering and gulping like a landed fish.

Are people really thick enough to swallow this pile of shite?

You forgot the 'all lies and hiding of these incidents until now were not because of guilt but to protect my family from the ire of the looney left brigade'

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

Barry Foster posted:

I know mate, just bants

I'm not going to be breaking my own lockdown over this, because I'm not a loving sociopath

Yeah the tone there came out a bit too serious, I'm not trying to have a go at you. I just feel like there's a weird extension in this to the idea of calling the police on your neighbours because they went out for two walks, where people get way too caught up with whether or not Cummings technically broke the rules, and begin to ignore what the rules are actually there for. Like maybe he assiduously stuck to the guidelines and is perfectly without blame in the law, but he still put his elderly parents at risk of infection whether Number 10 is on his side or not.

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



This was such a bad idea, lol

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/isamyelyah/status/1264957982011535361?s=20

Magic Mango
Aug 31, 2006

Only fools are enslaved by time and space.
Did he just say “of course people have to exercise judgement in applying [the law]”?

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NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
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shit wizard dad

Fumble posted:

Jesus, we have all played this guy at Warhammer.



SCARGLOID PITMAN is a pro UKMT username.

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