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Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





https://twitter.com/humidhollow/status/1264608004386643969?s=21

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A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Cup Runneth Over posted:

south korea presumably lacks the insane strain of conservative evangelical that is common to America

haven't talked to many Koreans huh

davidspackage posted:

I read an article on the Correspondent that compared Trump's approval ratings to his predecessors, and the notable thing was that while Trump's rating was not high, it was really consistent, as opposed to Obama/Bush/Clinton/etc who would have sharp dips and peaks. It's like, his base doesn't care what he does, and to most other people it simply doesn't matter. There wasn't really a solid conclusion, other than the idea that the president doesn't really have to 'do' anything anymore. Not lead, take command or responsibility. Just be a guy who talks.

Basically? He's a bit less popular than any recent President was at this point in their tenure and he's also not any less popular than he was on inauguration day. I don't think this points to anything particularly unique to Trump or indicate that Things have ceased to Matter in some profound and novel way, in the same way that a guy who sinks to the bottom of the pool and stays there without phasing through it hasn't just redefined swimming.

Anyway it's pretty clear he's not going to persuade anybody either way at this point, he's got a fixed bloc of hardline Republican votes that an opponent can either exceed or not and the only really meaningful thing Trump can do is depress everyone else's turnout. Good thing he didn't go from zero political background to President of the US purely on the back of his capability at insulting other candidates and no other qualifications, and isn't running against a party with no beliefs save that the only true defeat would be if they were forced to do anything at all to earn a vote.

A Wizard of Goatse has issued a correction as of 05:41 on May 25, 2020

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


A Wizard of Goatse posted:

haven't talked to many Koreans huh

nope, or I wouldn't have been presuming, I would have been stating!

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

Trumps Baby Hands posted:

Hi mom, congrats on getting teacher of the year again. I know we’re in the middle of a global pandemic and you’ve been leading efforts at the school to create safe childcare for children of first responders, but I’m going to have to pull you away from that and lock you up in the MENTAL HOSPITAL because four years ago you “voted against Hillary Clinton” after 20 years of Fox News brainwashing

Is this your mom?

Because if she is a Trump supporter, she is a terrible person still and you're a bad child for not getting her into cult deprogramming while normalizing that brainwashing that has turned her into a terrible person.

Sorry.

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

SPACE-A-HOLIC
Taco Defender
There's a definite trend of conservative trolls and bots desperately trying to turn "Karen" around on their opposition. Must've struck a nerve.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Knight posted:

There's a definite trend of conservative trolls and bots desperately trying to turn "Karen" around on their opposition. Must've struck a nerve.
They shitted up "woke" pretty good, no surprise they're trying the same thing with Karen.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


FMguru posted:

They shitted up "woke" pretty good, no surprise they're trying the same thing with Karen.

In fairness, "woke" shitted up "woke" pretty good

Trixie Hardcore
Jul 1, 2006

Placeholder.
DEPROGRAM YOUR RACIST MOMS OR DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Knight posted:

There's a definite trend of conservative trolls and bots desperately trying to turn "Karen" around on their opposition. Must've struck a nerve.

but because they don't understand nuance they think it means "generic female-gendered insult"

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

When I want to relax, I read an essay by Engels. When I want something more serious, I read Corto Maltese.


Cup Runneth Over posted:

In fairness, "liberals" shitted up "woke" pretty good

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Conservatives constantly try to reverse the own. You'd see twitter nazis try to "ok boomer" people and poo poo.

Trixie Hardcore
Jul 1, 2006

Placeholder.
Conservatives try to claim our memes because they are terrible at making their own. You can say “ok boomer” or call someone a “Karen” and everyone immediately knows they are being roasted. Conservatives come up with “soy boy” and “pajama boy” and no one outside of right wing twitter knows what the gently caress they are talking about so they can’t get their memes to take off.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Trixie Hardcore posted:

Conservatives try to claim our memes because they are terrible at making their own. You can say “ok boomer” or call someone a “Karen” and everyone immediately knows they are being roasted. Conservatives come up with “soy boy” and “pajama boy” and no one outside of right wing twitter knows what the gently caress they are talking about so they can’t get their memes to take off.
"Cuck" absolutely sounds like an insult. The politics of it are hilariously revealing but it fits perfectly alongside words like gently caress, prick, dick and oval office.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦
Aside from its actual meaning it sounds like a portmanteau of "oval office" and "gently caress" so it scores insult points for that

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


It sounds like a Bluth family chicken impression

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Richard Spencer Bluth: Cuck! Cuck! Cuck! Cuck! Cuck!

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Cup Runneth Over posted:

In fairness, "woke" shitted up "woke" pretty good

Sounds like fake news.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

ElGroucho posted:

I don't want them to learn, I just want them to die

:same:

etalian posted:

Maybe this is just God making the US go through the story of Job?

trump creating Jobs, winning

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Trixie Hardcore posted:

Conservatives try to claim our memes because they are terrible at making their own. You can say “ok boomer” or call someone a “Karen” and everyone immediately knows they are being roasted. Conservatives come up with “soy boy” and “pajama boy” and no one outside of right wing twitter knows what the gently caress they are talking about so they can’t get their memes to take off.

Ah but have you considered that it is the left that can't meme? *posts macro of a cartoon frog*

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Doctor Spaceman posted:

"Cuck" absolutely sounds like an insult. The politics of it are hilariously revealing but it fits perfectly alongside words like gently caress, prick, dick and oval office.

It makes you sound like a loving chicken whenever you use it. It's a hilarious self own.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

nm

VitalSigns has issued a correction as of 16:10 on May 25, 2020

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Cpt_Obvious posted:

It makes you sound like a loving chicken whenever you use it. It's a hilarious self own.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

don't really have a stake in the Meme War but I'm pretty sure GBS was calling everything under the sky "cuck" long before the altright got their sticky little fingers on it, it was last week's overused Monty Python quote of an internet joke by the time Reddit decided to make it their culture war standard

A Wizard of Goatse has issued a correction as of 17:32 on May 25, 2020

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

don't really have a stake in the Meme War but I'm pretty sure GBS was calling everything under the sky "cuck" long before the altright got their sticky little fingers on it. Redditors a couple rungs down the injoke reprocessing food chain just kinda turned last week's wildly overused internet word into their culture war standard because they're a bunch of corny wannabes and yeah y'know elaborately engineering situations where they watch Trump gently caress their wife while they act so mad and horny about it kinda is peak liberalism

GBS was using cuck because it was full of dumbo chud culture warriors. Cuck started with 4chan nazis who used it to criticize republicans who refused to go full nazi.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

I always liked "soy boy" because the insult it intends - men strong woman weak ooga booga the feminization of men oh no - is coming from the rounded doughiest keyboard warriors who would get winded from going up stairs

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

don't really have a stake in the Meme War but I'm pretty sure GBS was calling everything under the sky "cuck" long before the altright got their sticky little fingers on it, it was last week's overused Monty Python quote of an internet joke by the time Reddit decided to make it their culture war standard

There's a user with the name "the cluck meme" and an avatar of the blue cucco from Zelda and that's one of my favorites on this site

Stoatbringer
Sep 15, 2004

naw, you love it you little ho-bot :roboluv:

FMguru posted:

They shitted up "woke" pretty good, no surprise they're trying the same thing with Karen.

Yeah, Twitter just seems to be this at the moment:
Any woman: Here is my opinion on X.
A millions chuds: Yeah okay Karen sit down and shut up Karen.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

you have to be at least ankle deep in alt right Internet lore to understand why "soy" is supposed to be insulting. it's the same to understand what they actually mean by "cuck," but not knowing that at all it still means "someone is having sex with your wife" which is an age old insult and probably a better insult than what alt righters actually mean by it (you like the wrong kind of architecture or something)

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Best Friends posted:

you have to be at least ankle deep in alt right Internet lore to understand why "soy" is supposed to be insulting. it's the same to understand what they actually mean by "cuck," but not knowing that at all it still means "someone is having sex with your wife" which is an age old insult and probably a better insult than what alt righters actually mean by it (you like the wrong kind of architecture or something)

do you? I thought it was just "soy has estrogens, eating soy makes you gay/feminine"

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

my bony fealty posted:

do you? I thought it was just "soy has estrogens, eating soy makes you gay/feminine"

yup and people have believed this poo poo for a while but just recently turned soy into a pejorative

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



my bony fealty posted:

do you? I thought it was just "soy has estrogens, eating soy makes you gay/feminine"

I remember hearing this like 20 years ago, but it seems like it was recent-ish that they started using 'soy-boy' as an insult.

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

Icon Of Sin posted:

I remember hearing this like 20 years ago, but it seems like it was recent-ish that they started using 'soy-boy' as an insult.

I think they really like it because it sort of reinforces their insane zeitgeist. If being a soy boy is insulting it means that Men > Women and not eating red meat makes you weak & etc..

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





great takedown of the whole soyboy insult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8dfiDeJeDU&t=5s

the whole soy makes you weak came from the bodybuilding community, which got it from some doctor's book about soy in which they interpreted it incorrectly. then the alt-right tried to adopt it because they're alpha males

Ebola Roulette
Sep 13, 2010

No matter what you win lose ragepiss.

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

If believers truly had the Holy Spirit within them, Hensley argued, they should be able to handle rattlesnakes and any number of other venomous serpents. They should also be able to drink poison and suffer no harm whatsoever. Snake handling as a test or demonstration of faith became popular wherever Hensley traveled and preached in the small towns of Tennessee, Kentucky, the Carolinas, Virginia, Ohio, and Indiana. Sister-churches later sprang up throughout the Appalachian region.[10] In July 1955, Hensley died following a snakebite received during a service he was conducting in Altha, Florida.[11]

It's not that Hensley wasn't a true believer, it's that God wanted him in heaven.



ETA: I'm not being serious

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!

pseudanonymous posted:

I think they really like it because it sort of reinforces their insane zeitgeist. If being a soy boy is insulting it means that Men > Women and not eating red meat makes you weak & etc..

I was unaware of the whole supplement/feminization conspiracy aspect the first time I heard "soyboy" but this sort of association was enough to make the insult clear in context. Soy is a substitute for milk which you only use if you're weak (read: lactose-intolerant) (read: non-European) or if you're some kind of coastal elite who orders soy mocha latte frappewhatevers at Starcucks. Or maybe you eat a soyburger or munch on tofu because you can't handle Real American Meat.

Dickbutt Ouroboros
Nov 13, 2002

handbandit?
Son of a bitch!

The funniest part is that they think it is feminizing because soy contains phytoestrogens (which may, possibly affect estrogen levels in humans), so they like to make a big show out of drinking cow's milk. Of course they're too dumb to realize that cow's milk contains mammalian estrogen which absolutely can affect humans.

They can't even do performative masculinity right.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Strong Sauce posted:

great takedown of the whole soyboy insult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8dfiDeJeDU&t=5s

the whole soy makes you weak came from the bodybuilding community, which got it from some doctor's book about soy in which they interpreted it incorrectly. then the alt-right tried to adopt it because they're alpha males

it's also especially funny because soy is apparently really healthy and very good for building muscles.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

When I want to relax, I read an essay by Engels. When I want something more serious, I read Corto Maltese.


Trump voters realising their poster child was only ever in it for the money.

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

wizzardstaff posted:

I was unaware of the whole supplement/feminization conspiracy aspect the first time I heard "soyboy" but this sort of association was enough to make the insult clear in context. Soy is a substitute for milk which you only use if you're weak (read: lactose-intolerant) (read: non-European) or if you're some kind of coastal elite who orders soy mocha latte frappewhatevers at Starcucks. Or maybe you eat a soyburger or munch on tofu because you can't handle Real American Meat.

yea as long as you know soy is a vegan meat substitute you "get" about 90% of the pejorative intent of soyboy just fine. you get the other 10% once you remember soy is commonly associated with asian cuisine. everything on top of that core of misogyny and racism is just post-hoc food phrenology

im p sure the word cuck was used online by actual cuckold fetishists before the alt-right adopted it. the chud who initially coined the alt-right usage must have learned of the term completely by accident, perhaps stumbling upon WhiteWivesGettingBred dot com while looking for wholesome egg-affirming aryan porn, and no doubt he instantly closed his browser window and lost his erection for a month in disgust

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Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

my bony fealty posted:

do you? I thought it was just "soy has estrogens, eating soy makes you gay/feminine"

Suddenly I'm wondering if they've ever tried to make it a thing to eat only male animals. "You mean that's a girl steak? Like from a sensitive emotional mama cow? Wuss. You are what you eat!" *gnaws on steer horn*

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