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Tesseraction posted:I know it's off-topic but it's bugged me for ages I never had to remember my username because I never log off 
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CharlestheHammer posted:I don’t think Joe Rogan influences anything because to influence you need opinions. he's a CIA shill that platforms far right speakers and boosts them to a large and impressionable audience
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May 26, 2020 15:46
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I think if he were doing CIA work he wouldn't be allowed to platform Palestinian rights advocates or people who regularly work with Telesur or RT. The CIA doesn't need people like Rogan anymore, they've got Twitter and Facebook now to act as peripheral forces to complement their stranglehold on the platforms of the wider popular media The Rogans and Alex Jones' of the world are just flapping loose in the winds of popular sentiment now
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May 26, 2020 15:59
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like I don't listen to Rogan and I'm not a huge fanboy defender or anything, but people like Bari Weiss and David Frum have done 10,000x the damage and present infinitely more of a threat to progress than he does. We'll probably see some more manufactured outrage about him soon whenever he tells Biden to gently caress off again tho, probably hemming and hawing about trans rights from Jennifer "Rick Santorum Supporter" Rubin
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May 26, 2020 16:02
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Has Rogan given a platform to literal neo-nazi Richard Spencer yet? If not he's ahead of CNN.
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May 26, 2020 16:05
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Fried Watermelon posted:he's a CIA shill that platforms far right speakers and boosts them to a large and impressionable audience Joe Rogan will have anyone vaguely interesting on. the right wingers are just the ones smart enough to use that instead of pointlessly whining about how unfair it is
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May 26, 2020 16:50
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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:I have never once remembered my username Understandable
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May 26, 2020 16:58
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Joe rogans just a credulous idiot. He's done good things for discourse around drugs imo. To the point where Joe rogan boys will now tell me that they think full decriminalisation of drugs would be a good idea and that's a good sentiment to have out there. As a long time mma fan i will tell you that Joe just likes things that are sick and or rule. To the point where he will mid fight start saying what cool thing could happen and then when it doesn't he drops it. Joe yelling "oh he's in deep! Oh wait no he's out" happens on basically every card he commentates because he's so enthusiastic about a cool submission happening that he basically doesn't know what he's looking at and he's just another enthusiastic poo poo head. My point being that Joe's critical reasoning skills are non existent. He's probably pretty good at listening to whatever accountants/administrators he has behind him though.
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May 26, 2020 17:00
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Joe Rogan is a credulous idiot with a better understanding of politics and better policy positions than most elected Democrats.
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May 26, 2020 17:09
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I mean he listened to bernie I gues s
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May 26, 2020 17:11
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The DMT documentary where he was presented as an intelligent science man who is very serious is funny
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May 26, 2020 17:12
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Alan Smithee posted:I mean he listened to bernie I gues s he’s brought on Palestinian avicates as well. he’s honestly done more for leftism than any mainstream outlet. do not mistake that to mean he himself is one tho
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May 26, 2020 17:13
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On culture war stuff he does tend to take the “manly man side” I don’t know how he feels about trans politics but taking Elon’s side over the wachowskis in the red pill tweet seems like it would be on brand
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May 26, 2020 17:24
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You ever get bored of that weird r/stupidpol take that you should never get a Nazi or any other bigot removed from their jobs because that somehow destroys class solidarity? I never got that poo poo, it just seems like lib mindset where you think you can somehow debate most hardcore bigoted people into not being lovely, with some left-wing paint thrown on.
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May 26, 2020 17:25
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I think that's just a garbled version of the view that you shouldn't limit your political work to doxxing people on twitter.
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May 26, 2020 17:31
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Alan Smithee posted:On culture war stuff he does tend to take the “manly man side” hes very mad about trans women in fighting sports
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May 26, 2020 17:33
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:I think that's just a garbled version of the view that you shouldn't limit your political work to doxxing people on twitter. That and it feels like they don't get that, presumably, creating a hostile work environment will get someone kicked out of their job in a communist society as much as it will a capitalist one. It's bizarre since there's so much hand-wringing over "oh no how will this man feed himself after your pernicious liberal canceling has deprived him of a job?!" but they don't seem to understand that, in the capitalist environment, you're usually stuck with your coworkers since quitting is a bad choice and changing jobs is tough. Why should people have to put up with the local office homophobe?
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May 26, 2020 17:42
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SunAndSpring posted:You ever get bored of that weird r/stupidpol take that you should never get a Nazi or any other bigot removed from their jobs because that somehow destroys class solidarity? I never got that poo poo, it just seems like lib mindset where you think you can somehow debate most hardcore bigoted people into not being lovely, with some left-wing paint thrown on. I have no problem with shitlords getting named and shamed, and I fully support trying to get them fired for their poo poo. That said, there's a valid point employers being arbiters of morality on conduct outside work is a dangerous thing, but it's not like that's something new (see: everyone who ever got fired for a positive drug test who didn't have a job where such testing is a matter of workplace safety). All the complaints about "cancel culture" feel like sour grapes from people who would be perfectly fine with someone getting fired for supporting the BDS movement and their complaints should be treated as being made in bad faith.
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May 26, 2020 18:16
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behind a WSJ paywall of all places, and hardly surprising, but still gratifying to see acknowledged in print: https://twitter.com/evale72/status/1265311394318233601
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May 26, 2020 19:26
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just like most companies they wont do poo poo until a problem costs more money ignoring it than doing something about it. facebook seem magically able to do things they tell the media and us government are impossible when other countries start threatening massive fines
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May 26, 2020 19:46
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Ague Proof posted:the vibe I get from Rogan is that he is extremely insecure and overcompensates with tokens of masculinity (bow-hunting etc)
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May 26, 2020 20:18
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Epic High Five posted:like I don't listen to Rogan and I'm not a huge fanboy defender or anything, but people like Bari Weiss and David Frum have done 10,000x the damage and present infinitely more of a threat to progress than he does. We'll probably see some more manufactured outrage about him soon whenever he tells Biden to gently caress off again tho, probably hemming and hawing about trans rights from Jennifer "Rick Santorum Supporter" Rubin
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May 26, 2020 20:20
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SunAndSpring posted:You ever get bored of that weird r/stupidpol take that you should never get a Nazi or any other bigot removed from their jobs because that somehow destroys class solidarity? I never got that poo poo, it just seems like lib mindset where you think you can somehow debate most hardcore bigoted people into not being lovely, with some left-wing paint thrown on.
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May 26, 2020 20:28
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cargo cult posted:the best rogan episode is the one with alex honnold b/c rogan is clearly intimidated and tries to spit all this bullshit game about bowhunting and supplements and alex honnold clearly doesnt care at all lol I used to listen a lot because I'm a UFC fan and needed to fill a lot of time at work, I stopped after about a year when I realized 90% of the show is Joe repeating the exact same bits over and over and over. But my favorite recent incident was when he brought on Andy Ngo shortly after the milkshake event. Rogan is too dumb to realize that Andy's whole act is a really thinly veiled ruse that most of his fellow travelers just play along with and starts off the show by earnestly asking him how he's doing with his head injury and about the incident. Andy starts talking about how he went to the ER and they diagnosed him with some extremely serious brain injury and neural damage....and then how they sent him home the same day. Joe, of course, is pretty familiar with what blows to the head usually do and the medical treatment that people get for them and starts being like "wait what? they didn't keep you in the hospital after this?" and after some very awkward back and forth where they both realize what's happening Joe quickly changes the subject and doesn't talk about it again lmfao.
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May 26, 2020 20:33
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cargo cult posted:the best rogan episode is the one with alex honnold b/c rogan is clearly intimidated and tries to spit all this bullshit game about bowhunting and supplements and alex honnold clearly doesnt care at all lol Alex honnold just wants eat oreo and climb rock
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May 26, 2020 21:08
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cargo cult posted:the best rogan episode is the one with alex honnold b/c rogan is clearly intimidated and tries to spit all this bullshit game about bowhunting and supplements and alex honnold clearly doesnt care at all lol And this is completely aside from everything but the best Alex Honnold moment is when he did a photoshoot for GQ Magazine and they put him into a bunch of designer outdoors clothing and he looked like a kid whose mom forces him to try whatever clothing she wants  Pullover, $950, by Loewe / Pants, $290, by Stone Island / Shoes, $170, by La Sportiva  Sweater, by Gucci / Pants, $290, by Stone Island / Watch, $3,400, by Tudor / Bag, his own, by Black Diamond  Sweater, $550, by Lorod / Pants, $375, by Tibi / Shoes, $170, by La Sportiva / Watch, $3,400, by Tudor
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May 26, 2020 21:25
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rogan is the kind of person who i try to think isn't really a chud at heart, just a massively naive idiot, but then he does poo poo like what he did the other day, where he went all "YAAAAAAAAAAAAS QUEEN" to kayleigh mcanenay (sp?) who he thought did an epic job owning some rando journalist during a press briefing. the man knows what he's doing and who his audience is
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May 26, 2020 22:09
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Mr Interweb posted:rogan is the kind of person who i try to think isn't really a chud at heart, just a massively naive idiot, but then he does poo poo like what he did the other day, where he went all "YAAAAAAAAAAAAS QUEEN" to kayleigh mcanenay (sp?) who he thought did an epic job owning some rando journalist during a press briefing.
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May 26, 2020 22:18
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Rogan pretty much -is- the undecided voter. Half engaged, confused about a lot of things, and really angry at the state of things even if he doesn't totally understand why he's angry and who's it at. That's why the guy who supported Bernie is also yas queening Trump's press secretary.
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May 26, 2020 22:38
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Yeah I think these weird conspiracies are dumb. Roganhas no coherent beliefs like most people. He decides whatever when it comes up
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May 26, 2020 22:53
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CharlestheHammer posted:Yeah I think these weird conspiracies are dumb. Roganhas no coherent beliefs like most people. He decides whatever when it comes up I think this is mostly true but he can't claim to be undecided and above it all when he's constantly making his show a friendly platform available to people like Milo, Crowder, Shapiro, Ngo, Peterson etc. He might think of himself as an independent because he attempts to make his show less friendly to these guys than say a Breitbart or Fox News podcast but that's just damning with faint praise. The JRE is the premiere place for people like that to legitimize themselves to a huge audience and they've been doing it for so long that his audience is now mostly the same as theirs.
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May 26, 2020 23:10
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I think this is mostly true but he can't claim to be undecided and above it all when he's constantly making his show a friendly platform available to people like Milo, Crowder, Shapiro, Ngo, Peterson etc. He might think of himself as an independent because he attempts to make his show less friendly to these guys than say a Breitbart or Fox News podcast but that's just damning with faint praise. The JRE is the premiere place for people like that to legitimize themselves to a huge audience and they've been doing it for so long that his audience is now mostly the same as theirs. he makes his show a friendly platform to most anyone. the only people I have heard him straight up reject is Biden and crew because he thought they were boring. the only reason Milo and them get more track is the right wing is much better at understanding how to use media while nominal leftists care more about appearing virtuous
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May 27, 2020 02:09
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rogans a dumbass but its hard for me to hate him that much because any joe rogan fan you meet irl is the exact same type of dumbass. its a very common genre of stupid person and hes their king
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May 27, 2020 02:11
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joe rogan is the textbook definition of a useful idiot, any analysis of him that insists he has any real coherent ideology is bunk
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May 27, 2020 02:12
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Rogan has had on more people talking about Palestine than any mainstream news media and just as many ghouls. He's not good but he's also not very unique.
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May 27, 2020 02:15
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Chapo should go on Rogan If he is a useful idiot, make him OUR useful idiot
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May 27, 2020 02:19
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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:And this is completely aside from everything but the best Alex Honnold moment is when he did a photoshoot for GQ Magazine and they put him into a bunch of designer outdoors clothing and he looked like a kid whose mom forces him to try whatever clothing she wants Honnold rules and I hope he doesn't die like approximately 100% of the people who do what he does
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May 27, 2020 02:19
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Feldegast42 posted:Chapo should go on Rogan I'd pay good money to see a Christman and Rogan shoot the poo poo for 3 hours god only knows what our large drunken son could get him behind
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May 27, 2020 02:22
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Epic High Five posted:I'd pay good money to see a Christman and Rogan shoot the poo poo for 3 hours Christman and Jon bois did do a six part series about MMA and how its development mirrored the stagnation of America, might stick in his goldfish brain for an hour or two
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Any time Rogan has a lefty guest there will be deep discussions about systematic problems in America and what to do about them and you feel like he actually grew in his view point that day. Then an episode later he will have on another guest and agree with them that the real problem is those darn SJWs. Doesn't matter who you get on his show, because part of his problem is he is a rube with a goldfish memory who's view point is based on who he talked to last. Unless it's about weed then he has strong permanent positions.
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