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Mexican Deathgasm posted:Yeah I'm abstaining. Tudiya and the rest are so inconsistent with their reactions that telling them anything is rolling the dice. I don't think they're inconsistent, I just think they function according to a framework that we, as the collective players, can't possibly keep straight as members of a completely alien culture.
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They're consistent, just consistently not what we want.
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May 26, 2020 23:53
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Yeah they're consistent characters but they're consistently acting on values very different from those Enkidel/goons hold, like I forgot just exactly how xenophobic Tudiya is, or at least that it trumped his practicality.
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May 27, 2020 00:08
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Important message for right voters: We will, one day.
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May 27, 2020 00:10
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They are entirely consistent. Wrong voters just don't understand the why behind what they do
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Mexican Deathgasm posted:Yeah I'm abstaining. Tudiya and the rest are so inconsistent with their reactions that telling them anything is rolling the dice. The thing is, as has been discussed, Tudiya knows we're full of poo poo. We're grasping at straws trying to justify this road trip that we HAD to take, going so far as to feign the "feeling" of a divine mandate, and he's waiting on us to basically lay down a literal message from God. Like I said, he isn't going to lose his foot up our rear end since we did have successes on this trip, but, he's absolutely going to say that we didn't meet the standard he expected and that we better enjoy playing SimKavodel for the next hundred years.
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Tbh I did think we would have a Lot more leeway in this specific thing b/c we were ostensibly dealing with a great city. but I also don't care about the trade deal overly much and just wanted to use this opportunity to see if 3dad would share any info about the peoples republic from the Zepath Logs
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the_steve posted:he's absolutely going to say that we didn't meet the standard he expected and that we better enjoy playing SimKavodel for the next hundred years. Yes please.
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the_steve posted:The thing is, as has been discussed, Tudiya knows we're full of poo poo. The worst things is we actually have an actual divine boon for what we did, and we can't tell him...
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Waci posted:The worst things is we actually have an actual divine boon for what we did, and we can't tell him... That really is one of the biggest lols of this trip
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jazzyhattrick posted:Yes please. Agreed. I'm just bracing myself for the inevitable discussion a few vote cycles from now where wrong voters decide that we should really go to *literally anywhere* because they want to play tourist, and the "Well Actually" rhetorical circlejerk that will ensue when Tudiya shuts us down and everyone wants to vote to try to persuade/rules lawyer him that we should absolutely be allowed to abandon our responsibilities again because we want to.
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May 27, 2020 01:21
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the_steve posted:Agreed. I'm just bracing myself for the inevitable discussion a few vote cycles from now where wrong voters decide that we should really go to *literally anywhere* because they want to play tourist, and the "Well Actually" rhetorical circlejerk that will ensue when Tudiya shuts us down and everyone wants to vote to try to persuade/rules lawyer him that we should absolutely be allowed to abandon our responsibilities again because we want to. Yes please.
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May 27, 2020 01:30
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Trip was dumb in the first place, like most of our big trips. Destination in mind like Orm or Bugbro? Good, easy, fast, Tudiya knows the why and how and fast so doesn't care Big trip to South without destination? Got killed three times Big trip to plains? Only got to do it by pissing off everyone around us and learned/gained very little
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May 27, 2020 01:33
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Slaan posted:Trip was dumb in the first place, like most of our big trips. Destination in mind like Orm or Bugbro? Good, easy, fast, Tudiya knows the why and how and fast so doesn't care Excuse me for wanting to explore and have adventures instead of sitting in town for years. I thought this was still a game, if a very simulationist and harsh one.
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May 27, 2020 01:37
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Slaan posted:Trip was dumb in the first place, like most of our big trips. Destination in mind like Orm or Bugbro? Good, easy, fast, Tudiya knows the why and how and fast so doesn't care
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May 27, 2020 01:43
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Tell Tudiya: The benefits of my trip will become apparent when you're older.
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May 27, 2020 01:47
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I'm amused that voting to tell Tudiya won but I'm even more amused we got to see Enkidel's Self-Preservation instincts once again kicking in A
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May 27, 2020 01:55
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Z the IVth posted:Tell Tudiya: The benefits of my trip will become apparent when you're older. The best answer
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May 27, 2020 01:56
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Slaan posted:Trip was dumb in the first place, like most of our big trips. Destination in mind like Orm or Bugbro? Good, easy, fast, Tudiya knows the why and how and fast so doesn't care Is this a serious post? I can never tell what you actually like in the game other than doing the hunger thing.
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May 27, 2020 02:06
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May 27, 2020 02:11
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The feeling bullshit was an insanely hosed up thing to say
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May 27, 2020 02:23
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Well, if we'd gone to Batiel we wouldn't have needed a really dumb lie, we could have gone out of piety.
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May 27, 2020 02:38
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TheCog posted:Well, if we'd gone to Batiel we wouldn't have needed a really dumb lie, we could have gone out of piety. 
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May 27, 2020 02:41
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How do we get him to let us go to Seir before the next jubi?
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May 27, 2020 02:51
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So why did we say we had an epic battle with the fire demon? Wouldn't it be more badass to say we defeated it with one punch?
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May 27, 2020 02:53
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The ostensibly correct opinion is that we push for baitel next as a trip. There’s just so much upside and not a lot of reasons to deny us unlike every other destination.
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May 27, 2020 02:57
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Also we would absolutely not survive a trip to seir. Our anti-slavery stance would get us killed before the dragons we'd be honorbound to hunt would.
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May 27, 2020 03:01
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Enkidel probably wouldn't make it within a week's journey time of Seir before murderizing shitbirds in the cities that surround it.
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May 27, 2020 03:05
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Z the IVth posted:Tell Tudiya: The benefits of my trip will become apparent when you're older. Please do this.
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May 27, 2020 03:17
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Sitting at home protecting Zepath for a while until the rest of the world burns isn't going to accomplish anything but losing slower Why would anyone vote for that. Tudiya would, but as a player that's a Wrong Voter Badge for sure Hell, we don't ACTUALLY know how much or even if Tudiya is mad anyways
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May 27, 2020 03:20
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super sweet best pal posted:So why did we say we had an epic battle with the fire demon? Wouldn't it be more badass to say we defeated it with one punch? There is no way to tell the story where we beat it with one punch that is in keeping with our minimum standards of behavior.
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May 27, 2020 04:12
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One day Tudys is going to get sick of our bullshit, slowly reach across the table, and rip our lying tongue out.
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May 27, 2020 04:24
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CloFan posted:How do we get him to let us go to Seir before the next jubi? We don't want to go to Seir though, the donut is bad enough without the aristocrats being Blooded.
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May 27, 2020 04:25
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A, but be honest and say that we are dumb and curious and want to trade with them but know better.
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May 27, 2020 04:28
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Zeroisanumber posted:One day Tudys is going to get sick of our bullshit, slowly reach across the table, and rip our lying tongue out. And it'll grow back, confusing him greatly. I honestly thought that the Great City status would go further to sway his opinion. Oh well.
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May 27, 2020 04:32
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I am so tempted to just vote for us to be full honest with Tudiya. About everything. EVERYTHING.
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May 27, 2020 04:33
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Zeroisanumber posted:One day Tudys is going to get sick of our bullshit, slowly reach across the table, and rip our lying tongue out. Indeed. The constant lies are very tiring.
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Blasphemaster posted:Indeed. The constant lies are very tiring. All we have to do is not go out of our way to tell the lie in the first place. We could just... not tell people things and who would know? We go out of our way to share things that we have no need to.
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May 27, 2020 04:44
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I am tired of the contingent of goons who want to be honest in spite of obvious repercussions. No self preservation or gaming instincts.
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It is quite the complicated web that we weave.
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