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Pick posted:yes, it's similar to how taking someone golfing to build rapport isn't bribery. they're symptoms of a lovely system but it's not corruption. the distinction is important. denying aid unless someone interferes with an election is corruption. Nah. Its just bribery you've normalized. The Biden family is corrupt as poo poo and the dems got mad when Trump broke the gentleman's agreement to not lean on corrupt failson grifters. Out of all the things to hit Trump on they chose a boring rear end charge nobody in America gives a poo poo about. Nobody loving cares about the Ukraine. The only reason to pick that, of all things, is to protect Biden.
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Crowsbeak posted:Remember howI said what comes after? I foresee a populist vaguely socialist America in the not so far future. Think Peron if he had been directing one of the most powerful countries on earth. Which would means change from the current status. I think it is a rather complicated thing to bring caudillo politics to an American context given how peculiar that historical arrangement is to Latin America but to indulge your reasoning, that would mean the best hope in the west would be a Getúlio Vargas figure: authoritarian in the sense of consolidating the government and steamrolling the opposition (which would be capitalist/landowner classes, interested conservatives, liberals) up to outright hostility if necessary, backed by dramatic social reform and aggressive national development measures (tbqh if we could get a Vargas 2.0 in Brazil right now it would be a socialist victory for us)
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Pick posted:Trump got impeached for openly and deliberately abusing his office via forestalling aid in exchange for foreign intervention in US elections. yes that's loving impeachable you goddamn whackjobs. is this about joe's crackhead son
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spacetoaster posted:Can't go after Trump on things like war crimes because then we'd have to throw dems in prison too. War crimes are less obviously authorized with respect to the articles of impeachment
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Is Ought The is-ought fallacy occurs when the assumption is made that because things are a certain way, they should be that way. It can also consist of the assumption that because something is not now occurring, this means it should not occur. In effect, this fallacy asserts that the status quo should be maintained simply for its own sake. It seeks to make a value of a fact or to derive a moral imperative from the description of a state of affairs. Examples: We do not currently regulate the amount of nicotine in an individual cigarette; therefore we need not do this. If nature does not make it, we shouldn't have it. We've always had Bonfire, so we always should. The Electoral College is specified in the Constitution, so we can't do away with it. Of course homosexuality is immoral. You don't see any animals doing that. Oh, Larry, why are you so upset about my cheating on the exam? I saw an article saying 70% of college students admit to cheating. I think it's to be expected that people will do whatever it takes to get what they want. So, people should do what they have to do. The simple fact is that war is good for mankind, since the tendency to conflict is a human instinct.
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Pick posted:War crimes are less obviously authorized with respect to the articles of impeachment Thanks Obama
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Saki posted:The absolute devastation caused by the on-going climate crisis is going to make coronavirus look like a minor blip. Expecting mass Cannonball runs protesting EVs, setting fire to tank farms to defend are freedoms. Invest in disaster cleanup and mortuary services. Reported on the radio this morning (can't find a link) that in a shocking case of "Number Go Down" B.C. Ferries credit rating has been downgraded. B.C. Ferries was established in the 1950s when the premier of the province nationalized the existing private ferry service, recognizing its importance as part of our coastal highway system. The same premier nationalized a number of other critical services as well as part of his push to build and control development infrastructure for the province. For many years he was viewed as an arch-capitalist but by today's standards he was somewhere slightly to the right of Lenin. His cabinet ministers certainly seemed to have made out like bandits on their property investments. BC Ferries was spun off as a crown corporation by a later neoliberal government in an attempt to make it more "business-like" and probably eventually to sell it off to private rent-seekers. That hasn't happened but we did have a period during the 2000s when the highly over-paid CEO was more concerned about providing a cruise ship experience by putting Starbucks kiosks in the newly marble tiled terminals than he was about ensuring basic maintenance to keep keels down, stacks up, and water outside. Most of the fleet is getting very old at this point. Hopefully this credit downgrade won't significantly affect the cost of the replacements, or maybe the Eastern European shipyards building their replacements can cut costs by increasing their use of Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Americans are deeply conditioned, regardless of ideology, to get upset at the idea that someone somewhere is getting something they don't 'deserve.' Not sure that's entirely an American thing. I've had quite a few long chats with an elderly Czech neighbour who had to quickly leave home when he got on the wrong side of the Communist regime despite coming from a privileged family. The Czech Republic is one of the most secular societies in Europe but he sounded like he came straight off Calvin's teat when it came to the poors. Or maybe his attitude was the result of coming to a foreign land with nothing, not being able to speak the language and building a good life without any help other than being born into a generation where you just needed to show up and stay sober (often optional) and work hard at your job of stealing resources on illegally occupied indigenous land.
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Armadillo Tank posted:The first link is awful. Yeah, the first ones silly and over simplistic. But I thought I'd post it since I thought not everyone would be willing to sit through the second. Edit: if you're interested #ACCELERATE: the accelerationist reader is probably the definitive introduction text for the theory. BrokenGameboy fucked around with this message at 19:11 on May 27, 2020 |
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non-exceptional dirt is still dirt lol police generally being violent thugs doesn't make police violence not bad jesus christ
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Pick posted:War crimes are less obviously authorized with respect to the articles of impeachment Congress can impeach for literally anything. There are no loving restrictions on it. They could impeach for not eating enough vegetables at dinner. They could certainly impeach for, say, handing out major government positions to his close family members. Or for using the office to benefit his own businesses. Or any of the hundred other horrifically corrupt things he's done that people actually give a poo poo about.
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christ shut up
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Nix Panicus posted:Number took a long vacation. Things got weird. We're monarchists now and number is our king. pretty sure number is queen, op
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Truga posted:pretty sure number is queen, op I erred. Number transcends petty concepts of gender.
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Truga posted:pretty sure number is queen, op it’s a female King, like Jadwega or Hatsheput or maybe a male queen, like RuPaul
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number is all genders and none, imprinted with the meaning we grant it. ultimately, it matters not. number transcends us and existed long before we were born and will exist long after we die. by the simple act of describing it we limit our ability to appreciate it. number simply is.
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number has no sex or gender, no emotion, only gains, puny mortals
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number is a ruler
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number is my comrade it will overthrow capitalism
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number can go down, for a bit, but ultimately number must always go up
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remember me for how I lived- a numberlover
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WampaLord posted:number can go down, for a bit, but ultimately number must always go up heresy. number goes down only due to our weakness of faith. you must purify yourself and embrace the true number, that which only goes up.
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Number has infinite sex organs of all configurations, all of which are erect because number must always go up This is the secret to why number must sleep at night, being erect for more than 6 hours is very dangerous and number doesn't want another hospital visit
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UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBER this week is a pathetic 2.1 million (estimated projection).Epic High Five posted:and jail them if they refuse to show, They can't, actually, since the Department of Justice works for TRUMP and only they can prosecute Congressional contempt referrals.
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AnoHito posted:heresy. number goes down only due to our weakness of faith. you must purify yourself and embrace the true number, that which only goes up. much like how even The Lord needed a day of rest, sometimes number needs to go down for a bit, so it may resume its forever journey upward
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pft only two million!!! (not even including the other program for gig people)
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Horseshoe theory posted:UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBER this week is a pathetic 2.1 million (estimated projection). look if somebody has reached the highest levels of power in the most powerful nation on Earth and doesn't know how to bully and intimidate those who stand in their way, they need to step down immediately. Maybe what we all need to do is hack into donor emails to send Dem leadership messages about how we're going to stop donating if they don't go full LBJ pecker rip and tearing they'd find some way to make it happen
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NumbR, the app that only goes up!
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Bernie Panders posted:everyone who has a white collar job has it because of their dad, end of story! My dad was an uneducated abusive piece of poo poo that only ever gave me bad advice and I would have never gotten my computer toucher position if I had depended on him for anything. However he is a white male and I am also a white male so I guess you are technically correct.
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Bernie Panders posted:everyone who has a white collar job has it because of their dad, end of story! we are more progressive that that! moms can get people jobs now too
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number? i hardly knew her!
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Dang if soy prices go up I might have to pay the unthinkable price of almost $2 a pound for tofu. That's almost half as much as most of the cheapest meats!
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Chomp8645 posted:Dang if soy prices go up I might have to pay the unthinkable price of almost $2 a pound for tofu. That's almost half as much as most of the cheapest meats! I'd expect US soy to get cheaper since China is decreasing US soy imports to increase Brazilian soy imports. otoh, Brazil is having a covid explosion so who knows how long their ports stay operating.
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BrokenGameboy posted:I'm legit interested. Care to elaborate? I can see the development of a crisis with in the right populists as it becomes clear the financiers on the right have no intention of bringing the jobs back, I can see a lot being quite amendable to some sort of consolatory we could call it “left bannonism “. It be moderately hawkish on China and very big on reindustrialization. But with some talk about doing it in a “green way” Especially if Sanders passes away in the next few years they could even claim to be his heirs, similarly I can see plenty of those on the less socially radical side of the left who are mostly animated by a desire to increase unionization as well as Medicare for all, rebuilding rail infrastructure and green new deal being willing to make a deal with these types. . I would add that based on polling in 2018 millennial and younger republicans see nearly 40 percent favor UHC and forgiveness of student debt. And that’s 80 percent for democrat leaners. The material factors that lead to Bernies rise and the movement Medicare for all are not disappearing at all, in fact will be accelerating. This doesn’t kill the battle for desires for change but does change who the leaders may be and we could see a more social nationalist movement take over rather then a democratic socialist movement.
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Hawk for China except its to spread the revolution and overthrow the revisionists
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Crowsbeak posted:I can see the development of a crisis with in the right populists as it becomes clear the financiers on the right have no intention of bringing the jobs back, I can see a lot being quite amendable to some sort of consolatory we could call it “left bannonism “. It be moderately hawkish on China and very big on reindustrialization. But with some talk about doing it in a “green way” Especially if Sanders passes away in the next few years they could even claim to be his heirs, similarly I can see plenty of those on the less socially radical side of the left who are mostly animated by a desire to increase unionization as well as Medicare for all, rebuilding rail infrastructure and green new deal being willing to make a deal with these types. . I would add that based on polling in 2018 millennial and younger republicans see nearly 40 percent favor UHC and forgiveness of student debt. And that’s 80 percent for democrat leaners. The material factors that lead to Bernies rise and the movement Medicare for all are not disappearing at all, in fact will be accelerating. This doesn’t kill the battle for desires for change but does change who the leaders may be and we could see a more social nationalist movement take over rather then a democratic socialist movement. It goes back to the conversation about monarchs and despots, at a certain point, if anyone offers anything people will jump on it because the current system is so completely rotten. The central issue is that any sort of functional democracy is probably off the table at this point. Ardennes fucked around with this message at 20:51 on May 27, 2020 |
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Ardennes posted:It goes back to the conversation about monarchs and despots, at a certain point, if anyone offers anything people will jump on it because the current system is so completely rotten. Slightly disagree with that. I could see democrats still survive. Just with a much more overt state coercion. I also would see even the rise of my hypothetical social nationalist movement spawning a civil war as even that would likely be a bridge too far for the usurer class. I could see the social nationalist movement banning the big two and then allowing new political parties to exist in some sort of system that allowed its own party to always win. Frankly the fact that Law and Justice in Poland has been quite successful with a theoretical democracy still existing shows what could emerge. However classical bourgeois democracy will not survive. Which I actually think is better in the long run as frankly it has had a monopoly on ideas about representative systems of government . Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 20:57 on May 27, 2020 |
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:I'd expect US soy to get cheaper since China is decreasing US soy imports to increase Brazilian soy imports. otoh, Brazil is having a covid explosion so who knows how long their ports stay operating. Eh that might work if the free market was actually free, or if supply-vs-demand was the only factor involved... but if the prices fell more than a few % wouldn't the ag industry just let the produce rot in the field, in order to collect a slightly bigger check from the government?
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