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Xakura posted:You know MFDs exist, right? This is a solved problem. Combined with some sort of hands-on control device with contextual inputs. Yeah, and MFDs are exactly what NASA selected for use on Orion.
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Xakura posted:You know MFDs exist, right? This is a solved problem. Combined with some sort of hands-on control device with contextual inputs. MFDs are great too. But everyone keeps acting like they're going to be using it to hand fly the ship while keeping earth centered in a viewport when that's just not how the spacecraft is designed, regardless of what kind of HMI they're using. For interfacing with the many, many onboard systems while floating in zero G, I really don't see why a touch screen is a bad choice.
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`Nemesis posted:The capsule is basically a cargo container with life support and displays to make the humans feel more comfortable, drat near everything is automatic and or done from the ground. There’s nothing for the humans to control. Soyuz docks. Cargo dragon is berthed.
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grillster posted:I'm not demanding anything. I bet gas powered vehicles and holographic controls won't cross breeds though. Gabe Newell
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Bad Munki posted:Gabe Newell Chris Roberts
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thekeeshman posted:Chris Roberts Darude Sandstorm
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Bad Munki posted:Darude Sandstorm Radium
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Cartoon Man posted:https://i.imgur.com/P9QVPTH.mp4 His butt touches the ground at one point. Beware the rear end dragons!
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Cyrano4747 posted:Radium Notch
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Bad Munki posted:Gabe Newell Coming
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Do y'all not know about he fing-longer they use for Soyuz? Crews are strapped in enough that they use a pistol grip wand to mash buttons.
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And that's what it would be like if I had invented the finglonger.
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Lake of Methane posted:Do y'all not know about he fing-longer they use for Soyuz? Truly, a user interface worse than touchscreens
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grillster posted:Preferred developer for our brain implant:
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Whooping Crabs posted:His butt touches the ground at one point. Beware the rear end dragons! He also almost runs into two hikers at the end. Just after 0:50 Sex Skeleton fucked around with this message at 20:15 on May 28, 2020 |
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Xakura posted:You know MFDs exist, right? This is a solved problem. Combined with some sort of hands-on control device with contextual inputs. MFDs with soft keys are superior to touchscreens for proprioceptive targeting (i.e. the button is always in the same place and you can feel for it with your fingertips). They are somewhat less flexible than a full touchscreen because you're limited to placing buttons around the periphery of the screen and can't use size- or position-based hierarchies for contrast. The button that fires the eject system would have the same visual weight as the one that flushes the toilet. There are pros and cons to both. I agree that MFDs are better than touchscreens if the display is a primary input method in a challenging situation. Does anyone in this thread even know what is on the screens? Are the astronauts expected to even touch the touchscreen at all between engine ignition and cutout?
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Sagebrush posted:Are the astronauts expected to even touch the touchscreen at all between engine ignition and cutout? I guess we'll find out when they switch the onscreen button locations without telling the astronauts.
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Oh poo poo why did MuskOS reboot for an OTA update on reentry?! aaaaaaaaaaaaa
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In order to open the Re-entry app, you must perform a system update to continue. Press cancel to continue in offline mode.
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grillster posted:Should we take a poll? Terry A. Davis drat, he's dead
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Houston, we have a problem: The lunar module bricked itself.
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Phanatic posted:Apollo 13 involved exactly what you're saying doesn't happen. Apollo 13’s big created-in-situ fix, the CO2 scrubber adapters, was a pre-written emergency procedure. Someone dumping a box full of random poo poo onto a table in front of a bunch of rattled engineers in response to climbing carbon dioxide levels never happened. Let illectro learn y'all's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPBKBOuyYPI
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Nth Doctor posted:Apollo 13’s big created-in-situ fix, the CO2 scrubber adapters, was a pre-written emergency procedure. Someone dumping a box full of random poo poo onto a table in front of a bunch of rattled engineers in response to climbing carbon dioxide levels never happened.
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Because they were driving to meet the schedule goal of getting there before the 60s were out. Redesigning for different filters certainly could have been done, but on a project where pounds and months matter, you don't do that, especially for something that may never come up.
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azurite posted:I guess we'll find out when they switch the onscreen button locations without telling the astronauts. Burn for orbital insertion in three two one mark FAAART.wav
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Probably because both spacecraft were being concurrently developed as fast as possible by two different teams in two different companies on two different sides of the country. The emergency adaptation procedure probably got developed after a test and training engineer at nasa got a look at both scrubber canister types and realized it might be a problem. Remember the first manned Apollo flight went up in October of '68. The deadline was December '69. the LEM didn't fly until march of that year. Having two teams go back and redesign poo poo that already works is not a great use of brain time. Then you have to build, test, and rework the hardware you already built.
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Phanatic posted:Sometimes I'm amazed by how much blood there isn't. Someone in the comments pointed out that was probably a little bit post incident. The disembowelment probably wasn't as dramatic as the photo but apparently to help them heal they will just pull all the guts out like that and keep them outside the body for up to a week to let the swelling go down
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oh christ imagine having a box slide or avalanche in flight... i think we actually have footage of that https://imgur.com/rdxFpkN its a bird flying into a window while the plane is landing. there's sound. linked intsead of embedded cuz of the, ya know, death KoRMaK fucked around with this message at 23:18 on May 28, 2020 |
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Nth Doctor posted:Apollo 13’s big created-in-situ fix, the CO2 scrubber adapters, was a pre-written emergency procedure. Someone dumping a box full of random poo poo onto a table in front of a bunch of rattled engineers in response to climbing carbon dioxide levels never happened. Yes, but a lot of the things they were doing actually was rerouting power from life support to thrusters or whatever. They had the budget of whatever power the LEM batteries and fuel cells had left and that had to be divided between keeping the astronauts alive, knowing where they were and how fast they were going, and recharging the command module batteries. A lot of that stuff was made up on the fly and was basically a few guys who knew how much power every system used and asking teams what the bare minimum systems they needed and how to fit that into a budget. And that was after shutting everything down without knowing what would even come back. They designed the budget with a small surplus just in case. Then someone remembered that they used up a bunch of the batteries meant for re-entry. They ate up the rest of the budget by charging those batteries with very lossy cables from the LM to the CM.
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Everything is jammed in except the top layer, unless the plane starts doing rolls for shits and gigs it’s fiiiiiine
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KoRMaK posted:oh christ imagine having a box slide or avalanche in flight... i think we actually have footage of that Turning on the wipers would've gone full bathos.
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LanceHunter posted:The beneficial aspect of using a touch screen is that it's "more like Star Trek". Is that why they're building straight up Gattaca rockets?
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B-Rock452 posted:OSHA IV: The disembowelment probably wasn't as dramatic as the photo
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