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According to the government's own bullshit figures, 412 people died of corona yesterday. Loosening the lockdown now is premature and will kill a lot of people, and it's so goddamn transparent that it's just being done to take the spotlight off Dominic Cummings.
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Guavanaut posted:Is he the one who wanted Wales to stop existing so that he could go to the seaside or was that one of the other Shropshire Tories? He also claimed that the UK received no aid in the Marshall Plan after WW2 and then had to backtrack and apologise for being wrong when everyone pointed out how much of an idiot he was. Not the brightest star in the constellation, for sure.
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May 28, 2020 17:38
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Any news when they are opening up gyms? My mental health has taken a deep dive.
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May 28, 2020 17:39
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It's insane that they're not even waiting to see what opening schools does to the transmission rate before pressing ahead with this. 200,000 dead by the end of summer?
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May 28, 2020 17:39
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a pipe smoking dog posted:It's insane that they're not even waiting to see what opening schools does to the transmission rate before pressing ahead with this. Quite possible
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May 28, 2020 17:40
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Presumably with infection being so widespread and the 2 week delay the next peak is going to be higher than the first, depending on how many people stay at home anyway.
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May 28, 2020 17:41
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willie_dee posted:Any news when they are opening up gyms? My mental health has taken a deep dive. It won't just be your mental health taking a dive if you go near a gym.
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May 28, 2020 17:42
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The thing that still entirely baffles me is how they think this will help the economy. If there is one thing that is terrible for the economy it's a very large number of people dying or being incapacitated. How are they so loving dumb?
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May 28, 2020 17:47
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Exercise outside instead. If it's the awkward eye contact with strangers you miss from the gym just go and stand by a set of traffic lights maybe
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willie_dee posted:Any news when they are opening up gyms? My mental health has taken a deep dive. just a shame vultures have bought up all the weights from every online store and are selling it at about 400% markups on ebay. You can probably put something together with bodyweight stuff & a backpack full of heavy stuff?
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May 28, 2020 17:48
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lol Boris is taking live questions and is outright ignoring Dominic related questions.
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May 28, 2020 17:48
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a pipe smoking dog posted:The thing that still entirely baffles me is how they think this will help the economy. If there is one thing that is terrible for the economy it's a very large number of people dying or being incapacitated. Because they're the failsons of failsons who have failed all the way to the top of the neolib heap. Also capitalism is not known for its long term planning, money now and gently caress tomorrow.
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May 28, 2020 17:49
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I'm working through the big PHE stats release and there is some crazy stuff in there. https://assets.publishing.service.g...y_w22_Final.pdf -London antibody surveilance indicates 14.8% of the greater London population has already had the virus. -BME groups have 50% higher rates of infection than white and much much much worse clinical outcomes. -There was a two week period in the middle of April where 70-80% of the tests on people aged 70+ were coming back positive.  Remember how they turfed all the elderly people out of hospitals at the end of March without tests or PPE for staff? Yeah loving look at that mass of care home outbreaks while they were supposed to be 'shielding.'
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May 28, 2020 17:49
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I had a brainwave and made this
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Been having a "fun" disagreement today on another forum that I can't stop touching the poop in, where the consensus is that "kicking the marxists out" of Labour is a desirable thing and Labour is fundamentally incompatible with Marxism. My quoting Keir Hardie's praise for Marx hasn't done much to sway anyone. It's always a blast to see how liberals think. Exhausting, though.
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May 28, 2020 17:53
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happyhippy posted:lol Boris is taking live questions and is outright ignoring Dominic related questions. He clearly only had two sentences prepared in response to all the questions and knew how repetitive it'd be if he acknowledged the questions. Shame it was quite easy since there were other questions mixed in that he could answer.
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May 28, 2020 17:53
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If you remove the marxists from labour what's even the difference between them and the liberal democrats?
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willie_dee posted:Any news when they are opening up gyms? My mental health has taken a deep dive. Gyms/clubs/religious buildings are hugely high risk. Lots of heavy breathing/sweating/touching the same equipment etc. Don't go anywhere near them honestly.
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OwlFancier posted:If you remove the marxists from labour what's even the difference between them and the liberal democrats? I think that's the point.
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OwlFancier posted:If you remove the marxists from labour what's even the difference between them and the liberal democrats? which probably illuminates why they think it's incompatible with Marxism, because a brand is all they regard it as (joke answer: 150 MPs or so)
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sebzilla posted:I think that's the point. Sure but like, why don't they just join the lib dems, if you're looking for things to annoy them by asking.
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Jedit posted:The death rate from COVID-19 would not have been zero whatever they did. Kerala doesn't have a single *transmission* in-state because they began extensive mandatory quarantine poo poo in january, pretty much the same day the health minister was given a heads up Disease can't kill anyone if nobody catches it OwlFancier posted:If you remove the marxists from labour what's even the difference between them and the liberal democrats? you don't need to be a self-aware marxist to not be vince cable
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May 28, 2020 18:00
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Spangly A posted:you don't need to be a self-aware marxist to not be vince cable I would venture that you absolutely do need the anchor of the committed left wing of various stripes to not become the party of vince cable.
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May 28, 2020 18:01
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OwlFancier posted:If you remove the marxists from labour what's even the difference between them and the liberal democrats? Labour will be the party of kinder küche kirche, Lib Dems will be the party of tutting at that from their 5 seats while voting for fiscal collapse.
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May 28, 2020 18:03
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OwlFancier posted:If you remove the marxists from labour what's even the difference between them and the liberal democrats? The Lib Dems are way more pro-civil liberties than New Labour. New Labour had such a hard-on for reactionary authoritarianism in the most mundane ways. The freer the markets the more oppressed the people.
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grauniad posted:The chief scientific adviser, Sir Patrick Vallance, underlined the fact that there was little room for manoeuvre, with 54,000 new cases last week, which he called “a significant burden of infection”, and the infection rate, or R, still, “close to 1”. e: also as someone who actually likes pubs I'd rather they didn't "reopen" next month, because what that actually means is everything other than wetherspoons immediately going under. In some of my favourites round here there's not even two metres of room between the bar and the opposite wall and limited outdoor seating XMNN fucked around with this message at 18:38 on May 28, 2020 |
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May 28, 2020 18:32
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In good news I've suggested in the local whatsapp group that we stop clapping and instead of biting my head off it turns out everyone thinks the same thing but was too nervous to suggest it.
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May 28, 2020 18:34
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frankenbeans posted:I have no idea who this guy is and haven't listened to the podcast. But UK Podcasting Federation is a joke, right? Their twitter account is all of 3 days old. If it's not, then goddamn. They're extremely serious, and I'd thank you not to dismiss this important (if new) body imbued with the full weight and majesty of the UK Podcasting Community.
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May 28, 2020 18:42
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willie_dee posted:Any news when they are opening up gyms? My mental health has taken a deep dive. Check out the king of YouTube fitness Athlean-X, he put together a home bodyweight workout at the start of the lockdown: https://youtu.be/vc1E5CfRfos He's also got a 'sore in 6 minutes' series which has some bodyweight versions.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:In good news I've suggested in the local whatsapp group that we stop clapping and instead of biting my head off it turns out everyone thinks the same thing but was too nervous to suggest it. I didn't even start.
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Saros posted:Remember how they turfed all the elderly people out of hospitals at the end of March without tests or PPE for staff? Yeah loving look at that mass of care home outbreaks while they were supposed to be 'shielding.' Spoiler alert: that was the plan https://twitter.com/Dominique_ITV/status/1266054718578704391
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May 28, 2020 19:01
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that's how you act when your inbred brain is being eaten by roni
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Algol Star posted:Check out the king of YouTube fitness Athlean-X, he put together a home bodyweight workout at the start of the lockdown: I found his videos the other day while looking for tips on bench pressing technique and he seems pretty good, explains stuff clearly and in basic enough language to follow. For anyone after weights, I scored a bench plus 50kg off Argos last weekend after a week or so of trying. I put it in my basket when it was out of stock and refreshed a few times a day until it offered collection from store, so it's worth a try.
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On posting on FB about England telling cancer, asthma and other people they were no longer going to be considered special and food parcels would cease (article in Graun - phone posting so can't link) person on my Friends comments 'they can shop online'. Well maybe a few could but many are elderly, don't have internet or smart phones, delivery slots are hard to get. Naturally this person showing so much empathy is a Tory. (My mum for one can't shop online because she has a hand tremor that makes it almost impossible to get a cursor in a box - she's ended up accidentally buying double coach tickets etc when she's tried.)
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Skilbs posted:I was told today that my employer won't be continuing to furlough me past the end of July. There might be some work appearing soon that will mean I can come back to work from furlough then but as it stands I have been given 2 months' notice. This is likely to be happening to everyone who works here. I expected this as there is no work to do apart from a skeleton crew so there is no money to pay for even a 20% contribution. I suspect this is deliberate to force people out of work onto UC and that later they will revert the furlough scheme to its original form but disqualify us from being brought back onto furlough. Man that sucks I hope you land on your feet. I've been hearing rumblings that a lot of commerical property leases are due on July 1st and most businesses are going to just say gently caress it. I fear this means a lot of businesses are at risk of closing up shop: warnergoodman.co.uk posted:Currently, from 26 March 2020 until 30 June 2020, the ability to forfeit a commercial lease for non-payment of the rent has been suspended by the Government following the passing of the Coronavirus Act 2020. You cannot therefore take the usual steps to evict your tenant at present. However, from 1 July 2020, unless the Government guidance changes, you will be able to forfeit the lease and recover the property from this point. I don't know if this has come up during PMQs or some poo poo but the news that Brexit is going full steam ahead and complete lack of confidence in this current government will sink us even further unfortunately. Jaeluni Asjil posted:On posting on FB about England telling cancer, asthma and other people they were no longer going to be considered special and food parcels would cease (article in Graun - phone posting so can't link) person on my Friends comments 'they can shop online'. Is there no bottom to this barrel? https://twitter.com/Coldwar_Steve/status/1266000890567196672
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That episode of Byker Grove still haunts me to this day. MY EYES!!! I have never paintballed because of PJ & Duncan.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:The thing that still entirely baffles me is how they think this will help the economy. If there is one thing that is terrible for the economy it's a very large number of people dying or being incapacitated. The hospitals will just fall over again. If there's one bit of good news, that's not really good, it's that we can't brute force our way through this like America is doing.
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Regarde Aduck posted:The hospitals will just fall over again. If there's one bit of good news, that's not really good, it's that we can't brute force our way through this like America is doing. Are they using their massive slack capacity in the healthcare system combined with not having the government be responsible for it?
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Saros posted:I'm working through the big PHE stats release and there is some crazy stuff in there. no no, the carehomes are the ones who shield the hospitals by acting as ablative armour i think, since the NHS is on the brink of overwork at the best of times the govmt correctly realised it couldnt withstand even 1% of the pressure coming its way and kept as many people out of the hospitals as possible even if it kills them. makes sense why our death rate is so high
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Possibly from the same people that brought you Beans In The Backside https://twitter.com/DomCasebook/status/1265997820093501441
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