snoo posted:

i don't think that would hold up well

i was considering using superglue to fill in whatever holes the stitching could cause but i only have cotton/poly thread and it might react badly

Zberan Madowinty posted:

anyway, i saw a dude out on a motorcycle the other night blasting music (lol when did bikers start playing music on their bikes like pussies) and it was the loving HHH theme song from WWE. I'm like "who actually just... like listens to wrestler theme songs"

snoo posted:

lmao why are you having more kids

Luckyellow posted:

When everything goes Mad Max-like.

Luckyellow posted:

It's gonna be super useful in the future when everything goes Mad Max-like. Gotta build up a clan to protect each other

seattle plague rat posted:

u kn when obama ran repubs were all abt racism & w/hillary they went hard on open chauvinistic misogyny

so rlly it makes total sense that theyd hit nursing homes like this

bring back old gbs posted:

lmao who the hell else would tho?? other than a guy that would also think it was insanely badass to blare it from his motorcycle speakers in public


that guy knows what the word "freedom" means, if u asked him

snoo posted:

lmao why are you having more kids

nooneofconsequence posted:

how many kids do you need?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/may/28/questions-raised-over-hydroxychloroquine-study-which-caused-who-to-halt-trials-for-covid-19 posted:

But data from Johns Hopkins University shows only 67 deaths from Covid-19 had been recorded in Australia by 21 April. The number did not rise to 73 until 23 April. The data relied upon by researchers to draw their conclusions in the Lancet is not readily available in Australian clinical databases, leading many to ask where it came from.

The federal health department confirmed to Guardian Australia that the data collected on notifications of Covid-19 in the National Notifiable Diseases Surveillance System was not the source for informing the trial.

Guardian Australia also contacted the health departments of Australia’s two most populous states, New South Wales and Victoria, which have had by far the largest number of Covid-19 infections between them. Of the Australian deaths reported by 21 April, 14 were in Victoria and 26 in NSW.

Victoria’s department confirmed the study’s results relating to the Australian data did not reconcile with the state’s coronavirus data, including hospital admissions and deaths. The NSW Department of Health also confirmed it did not provide the researchers with the data for its databases.

The Lancet told Guardian Australia: “We have asked the authors for clarifications, we know that they are investigating urgently, and we await their reply.” The lead author of the study, Dr Mandeep Mehra, said he had contacted Surgisphere, the company that provided the data, to reconcile the discrepancies with “the utmost urgency”. Surgisphere is described as a healthcare data analytics and medical education company.

In a statement, Surgisphere founder Dr Sapan Desai, also an author on the Lancet paper, said a hospital from Asia had accidentally been included in the Australian data.

“We have reviewed our Surgisphere database and discovered that a new hospital that joined the registry on April 1, and self-designated as belonging to the Australasia continental designation,” the spokesman said. “In reviewing the data from each of the hospitals in the registry, we noted that this hospital had a nearly 100% composition of Asian race and a relatively high use of chloroquine compared to non-use in Australia. This hospital should have more appropriately been assigned to the Asian continental designation.”


He said the error did not change the overall study findings. It did mean that the Australian data in the paper would be revised to four hospitals and 63 deaths,.

Dr Allen Cheng, an epidemiologist and infectious disease doctor with Alfred Health in Melbourne, said the Australian hospitals involved in the study should be named. He said he had never heard of Surgisphere, and no one from his hospital, The Alfred, had provided Surgisphere with data.

“Usually to submit to a database like Surgisphere you need ethics approval, and someone from the hospital will be involved in that process to get it to a database,” he said. He said the dataset should be made public, or at least open to an independent statistical reviewer.

“If they got this wrong, what else could be wrong?” Cheng said. It was also a “red flag” to him that the paper listed only four authors.

“Usually with studies that report on findings from thousands of patients, you would see a large list of authors on the paper,” he said. “Multiple sources are needed to collect and analyse the data for large studies and you usually see that acknowledged in the list of authors.”

He stressed that even if the paper proved to be problematic, it did not mean hydroxychloroquine was safe or effective in treating Covid-19. No strong studies to date have shown the drug is effective. Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine have potentially severe and even deadly side effects if used inappropriately, including heart failure and toxicity. Other studies have found the drug is associated with higher mortality when given to severely unwell Covid-19 patients.

In a statement Surgisphere said it stood by the integrity of its data, saying all information from hospitals “is transferred in a deidentified manner” but could not be made public.

“This requirement allows us to only maintain collaborations with top-tier institutions that are supported by the level of data-integrity and sophistication required for such work,” the statement said. “Naturally, this leads to the inclusion of institutions that have a tertiary care level of practice and provide quality healthcare that is relatively homogenous around the world. As with most corporations, the access to individual hospital data is strictly governed. Our data use agreements do not allow us to make this data public.”

Scientists have reiterated the need to wait for the results from rigorous randomised control trials, considered the gold standard of science, and the Australian Department of Health has warned the drug should not be given to patients other than in clinical trials.

Cheng said it would be a mistake to stop strong, well-designed clinical trials examining the drug because of questionable data. The Lancet study findings have prompted the leaders of an Australian hydroxychloroquine trial, known as the Ascot trial, to review the future of their study. The outcome of that review has not yet been announced.

The Ascot study has been recruiting patients in more than 70 hospitals in every Australian state and territory, and 11 hospitals in New Zealand. The randomised control trial is exploring whether hydroxychloroquine in combination or on its own can treat Covid-19 patients and prevent deterioration in their condition. The leader of the trial, Prof Josh Davis, has written to the Lancet study authors asking for an explanation of the data.

In the meantime, patient recruitment for the study had been put on hold, an Ascot spokeswoman said. “Following an observational study published in the Lancet Ascot has paused patient recruitment pending deliberations by the governance and ethics committees overseeing the trial,” she said. “We expect these deliberations to occur rapidly and will provide further information as they arise.”

CHUCK WAS TAKEN posted:

ME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGye1pK2ysQ

Zberan Madowinty posted:

There's literally a massive coverup about how deadly and out of control this pandemic

Chris James 2 posted:

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1266071768948768775

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

A not-insignificant proportion of Americans are just total loving psychos lol



That 0.8% he's hollering about is nearly two million deaths.

oxsnard posted:

This one was a whoopsie, I'm getting a vasectomy asap. Need to train them to hunt chuds

Shima Honnou posted:

covid has almost a 0% death rate, now if you want a death rate look at all this unrelated pneumonia whoa mr trump please fund florida more so they can take care of it!

Mayor Dave posted:

oxsnard don't listen to the haters, having kids is cool and good

Chris James 2 posted:

https://twitter.com/TananariveDue/status/1266080596448559104

brugroffil posted:

"purge the weak"

Good soup! posted:

my wife and I are gonna be trying to have one soon and im excited (and terrified)

dont bring bad vibes to people who just wanna have kids

Good soup! posted:

dont bring bad vibes to people who just wanna have kids

euphronius posted:

can you imagine the horror show in late August when schools reopen

HugeGrossBurrito posted:

have fun raising your kids during a Great Depression

fits my needs posted:

HugeGrossBurrito posted:

have fun raising your kids during a Great Depression

HugeGrossBurrito posted:

I hope there aren’t any bad vibes when we are boiling our shoes for food

Good soup! posted:

my mother- and father-in-law are both teachers (gradeschool and high school respectively) and they absolutely loving hate this poo poo maybe this will make people shut the gently caress up about how virtual learning is THE FUTURE

HugeGrossBurrito posted:

have fun raising your kids during a Great Depression