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ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

gh0stpinballa posted:

idk if i can bring myself to vote labour at the next election, might go with cpgb

I have bad news for you about the cpgb

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Togger
Jan 16, 2019
Watching the Novara Media interview with Rutger Bregman and I'm just reminded how much I hate smug social democrats.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Continuity RCP posted:

I have bad news for you about the cpgb
The Communist Pedophile Group of Britain?

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

A Buttery Pastry posted:

The Communist Pedophile Group of Britain?

Gerry Healy died decades ago

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat
One of the few silver linings to CumGate is that some of the people who voted Tory because they actually liked BoJo will now see what an irredeemable sack of poo poo he actually is. And he has finally managed to unite the country!

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

Togger posted:

Watching the Novara Media interview with Rutger Bregman and I'm just reminded how much I hate smug social democrats.

Is this a dig at Bregman or Bastani?

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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at this point i think domcum is a genuine liability for the government and they'd be smart to bin him, but they seem arrogant enough not to do so

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

V. Illych L. posted:

at this point i think domcum is a genuine liability for the government and they'd be smart to bin him, but they seem arrogant enough not to do so

I think they don't give a poo poo and will continue not giving a poo poo.
https://twitter.com/robdelaney/status/1265724024400875523

Hillary 2024
Nov 13, 2016

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Hillary 2024
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by vyelkin

prefect posted:

I think they don't give a poo poo and will continue not giving a poo poo.
https://twitter.com/robdelaney/status/1265724024400875523

Someone tried to trash Kuenssberg's buddy.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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lol they've just gone mad with power at this point haven't they

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
I'm mostly floored at learning that the Beeb has "impartiality rules." Who exactly do they think they're fooling at this point?

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Continuity RCP posted:

Gerry Healy died decades ago
Trotskyism lives on.

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:

prefect posted:

I think they don't give a poo poo and will continue not giving a poo poo.
https://twitter.com/robdelaney/status/1265724024400875523

hahahah

Boris isn't gonna do poo poo. he got his majority. he's got control of the bbc. he's untouchable.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

eric ciaramella posted:

hahahah

Boris isn't gonna do poo poo. he got his majority. he's got control of the bbc. he's untouchable.

Formally, he's unaccountable except to internal party factionalism.

Practically, tensions are going to keep escalating until something explodes, possibly literally.

Dravs
Mar 8, 2011

You've done well, kiddo.
Honestly, I am having a hard time trying to remember a Tory government that didn't end in internal squabbles and self implosion. You would have thought this would be a huge red flag for people, but it generally just gets forgotten about.

Even John Major, the most pedestrian and non-offensive PM in history had to see off challenges and votes of confidence.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
John Major literally stepped down to trigger a leadership ballot that he went on to win in an attempt to humiliate the anti-EU bloc

Where have we heard that strategy before

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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johnson has a big ole majority though, and he's got the brexit laurels. him getting stabbed by the backbench psychos would be absolutely delicious, though

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

cumdom

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

https://twitter.com/DailyMirror/status/1266427586185437194

Man Musk has issued a correction as of 12:43 on May 30, 2020

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:
The man has to support the niche content producers that cater to his unique tastes.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


V. Illych L. posted:

lol they've just gone mad with power at this point haven't they

sorta, they've just figured out that there is no mechanism in the UK to actually enforce any consequences on them
i think after all the brexit drama in parliament where just nothing could loving get done it laid bare that the government has no checks on it and also parliament doesn't actually function.
i think this has been known to some MPs for a while but that really laid it out there for everyone to see.

So i think its not just that they now know they are untouchable its that they now know the public and media knows they're untouchable too, so its kinda like, well what are you gonna do about it?

the big reveal to me from the past few months has been that the government doesn't actually govern, it doesn't or can't do anything.
in lieu of a functioning central authority the government seems to just spend its whole time creating media content and talking to reporters, in lieu of a functioning press ours in turn spends its whole time talking to politicians.
so instead of a central government we've got some kind of bizzare media pocket industry that produces niche content of posh people lying to other posh people

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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to an extent i agree, and it makes it more pathetic that corbyn's policy of 'why don't we actually do things with government' was so roundly rejected

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


V. Illych L. posted:

to an extent i agree, and it makes it more pathetic that corbyn's policy of 'why don't we actually do things with government' was so roundly rejected

if you think back to 2015 corbyn's optimistic and pro-immigrant pitch its completely hysterical, in a very black comedy sense

Stoatbringer
Sep 15, 2004

naw, you love it you little ho-bot :roboluv:


Another Cory Chase fan?

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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Communist Thoughts posted:

if you think back to 2015 corbyn's optimistic and pro-immigrant pitch its completely hysterical, in a very black comedy sense

i have never respected anyone in politics so much as jeremy corbyn and i doubt that i ever will. what a loving loss for europe

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
there must be something parliament can do to influence the government - otherwise, how does the govt know how hard to turn the screws on the poor?

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames

V. Illych L. posted:

i have never respected anyone in politics so much as jeremy corbyn and i doubt that i ever will. what a loving loss for europe

As a broken Bernie Booster, I sincerely hope he never hurts you and never endorses anyone who sucks.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Bust Rodd posted:

As a broken Bernie Booster, I sincerely hope he never hurts you and never endorses anyone who sucks.

a big differnece is bernie is friends with biden where the equivalent in the UK have always despised corbyn. that and its a parliamentary system and the labour party is a proper political party in a way the democrats aren't so he doesn't have to endorse anyone

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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corbyn ran for election on all of new labour's manifestos and by all indications was more of a team player than the blairites were under his reign

still, one does what one must. i don't really begrudge sanders the biden endorsement, but i never felt that sanders was as stalwart as corbyn - corbyn always struck me as a sort of saint in a way that sanders never did. four years of constant media barrage never unearthed any impropriety or moral failing until they just fabricated something, and that's completely absurd after thirty years in politics and seventy as a human being

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
yeah as an American I was always very jealous that the worst thing anyone could say about Corbyn was that he was an anti-Semite, something that seemed demonstrably false even just from watching the regular news.

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

V. Illych L. posted:

i have never respected anyone in politics so much as jeremy corbyn and i doubt that i ever will. what a loving loss for europe

Europe will be fine, the UK otoh

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Relevant Tangent posted:

Europe will be fine, the UK otoh

the EU is rapidly spinning towards collapse, Hungary is an official dictatorship now, they and Poland are getting a head start on the camps that it's very hard not to see becoming a political reality in Italy, Spain, Germany et al, the state holding it all together (germany) is seeing huge uprisings in open fascist political support, and the grand saviour is Emmanuel Macron

we're all going to hell together friend

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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the worst thing you could say about corbyn morally was that he was *too* consistent, to the point of inflexibility and that caused issues with his personal and professional relationships, sometimes to the detriment of the cause or institution

which, to reiterate, is a hell of a thing in a decades-long political career and even more so in a long life involving two divorces

one of those divorces was literally because he refused to send his kid to an upper-class school because that'd be reinforcing an objectively malign influence on britain, and the worst the estranged wife could say about him was that he cared too much about politics and was pretty boring lol

e. re: europe, the hope was that corbyn could demonstrate that a leftward turn was a viable way to government. it would legitimately have been a huge boost to socialists all over europe

V. Illych L. has issued a correction as of 14:33 on May 30, 2020

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


V. Illych L. posted:

the worst thing you could say about corbyn morally was that he was *too* consistent, to the point of inflexibility and that caused issues with his personal and professional relationships, sometimes to the detriment of the cause or institution

which, to reiterate, is a hell of a thing in a decades-long political career and even more so in a long life involving two divorces

one of those divorces was literally because he refused to send his kid to an upper-class school because that'd be reinforcing an objectively malign influence on britain, and the worst the estranged wife could say about him was that he cared too much about politics and was pretty boring lol

e. re: europe, the hope was that corbyn could demonstrate that a leftward turn was a viable way to government. it would legitimately have been a huge boost to socialists all over europe

its not really a moral failing but his huge failing imo was that he respected parliament and believed in the process

which is comically stupid and lead to him being easily annihilated by Cummings who understands that parliament is a sham and everyone hates it

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/vgnbern/status/1268153484907556864?s=20

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
lmao an absolute snack!

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Zulily Zoetrope posted:

johnson cummings

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro



lol could've been PM right now stupid loving country

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V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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Communist Thoughts posted:

its not really a moral failing but his huge failing imo was that he respected parliament and believed in the process

which is comically stupid and lead to him being easily annihilated by Cummings who understands that parliament is a sham and everyone hates it

corbyn is a decent but not great politician, his instincts are very much that of an opposition backbencher rather than leader and he's not that quick on his feet. he's a pretty solid but not spectacular public speaker

his extreme integrity was always his strongest point, and the tories finally recognised that and set about undermining it by any means possible

if corbyn hadn't sincerely believed in parliament he wouldn't have stayed in parliament for thirty years. he's possibly the most sincerely patriotic politician of his time, so of course he got painted as a traitor and a hater of britain lol

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