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Fojar38 posted:I was talking about the "would the SS listen to Trump whining about the inconvenience of his protection" subject and using that as an example as to why they wouldn't Okay, but you and CelestialScribe have some weird Tom Clancy visions going on. GreyjoyBastard posted:preemptive reminder not to say anything (etc) You know, there was a poster last night after Precinct 3 was abandoned who suggested BLM go to a power plant so suburbanite whites lose their air conditioning in summer. If he hadn't already been probated for another terrible post, I would have mentioned that that's actually kinda terrorism? The whole thing about riots is that they're unplanned. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 09:39 on May 30, 2020 |
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Craptacular! posted:Okay, but you and CelestialScribe have some weird Tom Clancy visions going on. I've repeatedly said that this is all academic because the protesters had no interest in overthrowing anything or occupying the White House, and also cautioning against people in the thread who seemed to have been hopeful that they would when things were hot, because it would have been a universally bad idea. "Don't charge the Secret Service because you're hosed if you do" doesn't take a Tom Clancy vision to understand
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CelestialScribe posted:If you woke up one morning and the headline you read is “small group of protestors shot dead after storming White House”, the vast majority of people would think “that’s sad, but of course they got shot”. What other response would you want them to have? "Why did they shoot protestors that didn't shoot first?" Like, I know that america has a big thing about its guns and lethal response, etc, but if your society doesn't understand that there are many possible ways to solve things non-lethally, it is time to give you a reservation somewhere in Texas, and give your lands to more civilized settlers. 
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Guildencrantz posted:It's true of absolutely any country. That's, like, a precondition of basic political stability. The nerve center of government will always be protected with lethal force (unless its legitimacy has collapsed) because if it wasn't, any sufficiently determined group could just take over by force whenever they wanted. Right I forgot that when the right wing idiots openly brandished weapons in a state house, they were all gunned down instantly.
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Xarn posted:Of course I guess that if the general public and cops weren't so gun and violence horny, we wouldn't be here. Or if our mode of production didn’t enable and stoke the flames of these things.
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Xarn posted:Right I forgot that when the right wing idiots openly brandished weapons in a state house, they were all gunned down instantly. See, it's precisely the fact they were allowed to pull that poo poo that is uniquely American, and indicative of failing political stability. If you brought a loving assault rifle into a major government building in any European country, you would be leaving it either in handcuffs or in a bag, no question, and nobody would be remotely outraged. Large groups of unarmed people storming a building is different, yes, but fundamentally, people expect the state to ensure the physical security of its own institutions.
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KillHour posted:And just like clockwork, there's someone on my Facebook saying how disappointed MLK would be at the protests. Also Ghandi, for some reason. Why are you on Facebook?
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Katana Gomai posted:Why are you on Facebook? This wasn't asked of me, but I live in Korea, and if I wasn't on Facebook I couldn't stay in regular contact with my family. This response killed me https://twitter.com/DosCentavos_OC/status/1265726555726114817
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https://twitter.com/JuiceIessRy/status/1266618551269502977 https://twitter.com/CDRosa/status/1266637931143483393 I didn't know JROTC is a thing. It needs to immediately stop being a thing. Can we keep law enforcement jobs only to people old enough to gently caress? Please? I can't imagine a worse element for a violent conflict than young children who think this is Fortnite in real life.
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Craptacular! posted:https://twitter.com/JuiceIessRy/status/1266618551269502977 Isn't JRTOC restricted to high school students? Those kids are definitely not JRTOC
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Guildencrantz posted:Large groups of unarmed people storming a building is different, yes, but fundamentally, people expect the state to ensure the physical security of its own institutions. The discussion was about shooting the people though.
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/anitakumar01/status/1266485741892374529 "I have heard people say we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children for a long time, I wouldn't know where it comes from" ah, the classic demented racist grand pa defense! 
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Xarn posted:"Why did they shoot protestors that didn't shoot first?" Xarn posted:"Why did they shoot protestors that didn't shoot first?" Storming the White House isn’t like blocking traffic. It carries a message.
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Of course he did, because his bullshit university falls under the DeVos bill that would protect it.
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Didn't see this one posted yet, sorry if I missed it https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1266400635429310466?s=19 I know Obama was terrible too and all that, but it's always a little reassuring when he gets an amount of likes Trump can only dream of.
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Craptacular! posted:What is with you and your weird fantasy about this poo poo. They certainly noticed a Cessna on the lawn
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Fojar38 posted:I was talking about the "would the SS listen to Trump whining about the inconvenience of his protection" subject and using that as an example as to why they wouldn't President dumbass aside, the Secret Service really prides itself on its ability to protect whatever dipshit is running the country. Even if they absolutely despise the man they'll still do everything they can to protect him
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SocketWrench posted:They certainly noticed a Cessna on the lawn And a Huey
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Charlz Guybon posted:Isn't JRTOC restricted to high school students? Those kids are definitely not JRTOC They're most likely the kids of a prepper / 2A militiaman, who wants them to partake in his hobby. That kind of gear, especially the plate carrier, is pretty common among that crowd.
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Xarn posted:Right I forgot that when the right wing idiots openly brandished weapons in a state house, they were all gunned down instantly. Yeah,but let's be honest. Most consider those bozos as bozos because they had guns and pushed into the capital over their restricted rights that weren't restricted. The moment one of those guns leveled down to be used those protestors wouldn't be alive much longer.
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"Why can't you people just opinionate yourselves in a way I don't have to notice?"
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SocketWrench posted:"Why can't you people just opinionate yourselves in a way I don't have to notice?"  Literally this
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Martian posted:Didn't see this one posted yet, sorry if I missed it Now if he had only done anything about it when he was president.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Isn't JRTOC restricted to high school students? Those kids are definitely not JRTOC JROTC is high school only, and it's a recruiting program. Things are incredibly hosed up, but not "the government is deploying completely untrained child soldiers" levels of hosed up. I'd put money on "homeschool militia nutjob family."
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So I fell asleep last night around midnight, seems like it was just "the same, but more" on all fronts? Glad to see this is doing the opposite of fizzling out
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COOL CORN posted:So I fell asleep last night around midnight, seems like it was just "the same, but more" on all fronts? Glad to see this is doing the opposite of fizzling out At 1:30, the governor gave a speech about how authority was powerless before the unrelenting fury of the people united. I may be paraphrasing him slightly.
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Mystic Mongol posted:At 1:30, the governor gave a speech about how authority was powerless before the unrelenting fury of the people united. Which governor? MN? There's like a dozen states with protests right now haha
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COOL CORN posted:Which governor? MN? There's like a dozen states with protests right now haha Yeah, Walz specifically. He gave a 130 am address saying please stop burning everything, there are too many of you to arrest so we can't regain order. Wrong one, someone help me out here. Mystic Mongol fucked around with this message at 13:33 on May 30, 2020 |
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Cabbages and Kings posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/AndrewBVCU/status/1266648336540598275 EMS in Minneapolis wear those brown uniforms. They're not cops their uniforms just look like that.
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Space Gopher posted:JROTC is high school only, and it's a recruiting program. Things are incredibly hosed up, but not "the government is deploying completely untrained child soldiers" levels of hosed up. Yeah. JROTC programs are basically Eagle Scouts for the military integrated into a high school curriculum. They're meant to help prep kids for enlisting, not conduct police actions. (In fact if you do 3+ years in JROTC, you can get a higher paygrade after completing boot camp.)
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The President finally made a statement about last nights protest, and it was gushing about how the secret service was ready to shoot protesters if they breached the gates.
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AlternateNu posted:Yeah. JROTC programs are basically Eagle Scouts for the military integrated into a high school curriculum. They're meant to help prep kids for enlisting, not conduct police actions. (In fact if you do 3+ years in JROTC, you can get a higher paygrade after completing boot camp.) They're meant to prep kids to go to college under ROTC, it's a recruiting program for ROTC. Someone in a different thread said these kids look like police explorers which is a similar type of program but for recruiting cops.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266711221836931072 Trump may be the first president to brick every layup attempt he's ever had Every tweet is a dog whistle laden stream of idiocy because his narcissism can't even for a second allow him to go against his donor and voter base even in the face of a loving mob outside his door He needs to feel this pressure everywhere he goes, I don't even want him loving golfing without pressure *Oh and man he never gives up the chance to insult a woman, an especially a black woman in this case, what an insecure manbaby
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