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Stultus Maximus posted:And all the replies confirm what we mostly already knew: the chuds think that antifa is a formal organization with membership, a hierarchy, planning, assets, etc etc etc. What a bunch of morons. This just means you can accuse anyone of being part of it with no evidence.
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Also is this even a legal power that the President has?
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# ? May 31, 2020 18:04 |
Forever War out your front door
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# ? May 31, 2020 18:04 |
Stultus Maximus posted:Also is this even a legal power that the President has? I honestly don’t think that’s relevant.
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# ? May 31, 2020 18:06 |
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Woofer posted:I honestly don’t think that’s relevant. In terms of this being red meat to his base of complete morons, no it isn't. In terms of this having any actual legal implications with prosecution, it is.
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# ? May 31, 2020 18:07 |
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Stultus Maximus posted:Also is this even a legal power that the President has? of course it is. did you think the determination was made by terrorism scientists analysing samples in a cyclotron?
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# ? May 31, 2020 18:08 |
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Nystral posted:I disagree. All workers should have unions as powerful as Police and Firefighter Unions. Unions are good things, we should have more of them not less. I wholly agree that unions are good and we should have more of them. But, some police unions are way too powerful. For example, Minneapolis police union, defying its mayor... https://www.startribune.com/minneapolis-police-union-offers-free-warrior-training-in-defiance-of-mayor-s-ban/509025622/ ...led by this guy: http://www.citypages.com/news/activists-claim-police-union-chief-bob-kroll-is-racist-7877832
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Stultus Maximus posted:Also is this even a legal power that the President has? Looks like it's something the State Department and or Homeland Security does with no congressional involvement, so yeah it's probably happening.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Also is this even a legal power that the President has? Executive directs the Justice Department, Seems reasonable, given the assumption the President isn't a thin-skinned sociopath using them as his personal bagmen. All this actually means is they get a higher priority for the JD, and thus federal law enforcement adds them to the giant list of "Priority Tasking" they already juggle.
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Arven posted:Looks like it's something the State Department and or Homeland Security does with no congressional involvement, so yeah it's probably happening. MRC48B posted:Executive directs the Justice Department, I mean yeah he can tell the DoJ to prioritize it but that's not the same as what happens when State designates a foreign sponsor of terror. As far as I can tell, this is entirely meaningless beyond red meat because laws prohibiting material support to terrorist groups only apply to State designated groups, which are only foreign.
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Very important information: https://twitter.com/fionerss/status/1266863891608489984
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I do wonder if this could be spun up under patriot act / bank secrecy act to compel financial institutions to doing due diligence they aren’t allowing “Antifa members” to have bank accounts. But that would take some work. Depends how much Barr feels like it I guess
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hey so (in the state of florida) but generally, i believe you can NOT post bail using cash on your person correct? you may however post collateral if you have anything worth any value on you (that isn't broken/stolen off of you) correct? also, You should bring your drivers license but not much else on your person as far as id and cards and stuff goes correct? to a protest?
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Waroduce posted:hey so (in the state of florida) but generally, i believe you can NOT post bail using cash on your person correct? you may however post collateral if you have anything worth any value on you (that isn't broken/stolen off of you) correct? Burner phone to text someone to get you a lawyer and let friends/family/supporters know your status.
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Nystral posted:I disagree. All workers should have unions as powerful as Police and Firefighter Unions. Unions are good things, we should have more of them not less. I don’t understand why a (strong) federal bill of workers rights cant be established(beyond the weak-sauce that currently exists); guarantee minimum working conditions, pay, scheduling, addressing of wrongs? Fed employees have OPM regs, and then usually some sort of (usually) weak union representation based on the region they work. When I was a fed mariner, I was rep’d by MMP, also was under another union. Honestly they did gently caress all really but at least OPM regs covered a lot of bases. Currently I’m IBU. That said, they all have a lot of problems- I’d rather see everybody from private to public get the same rights across all states. They can give more bene’s if its negotiated by a union but cant take away.
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pmchem posted:you keep attributing very specific positions to me that are not what I posted. I didn’t post that people generally wanted to see their own community burn. It’s also impossible to generalize an answer. Those 3 reasons are an amazing hot take on why the protests are happening. I don't know why you're so upset by cspam I generally don't like a lot of the posters there either
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Waroduce posted:hey so (in the state of florida) but generally, i believe you can NOT post bail using cash on your person correct? you may however post collateral if you have anything worth any value on you (that isn't broken/stolen off of you) correct? The ACLU is always there at these things they can help you when you show up. Write your legal contacts phone number on your skin (they take your poo poo if they detain) Hydrate. If I'm getting COVID I'm gonna get it fighting for some rights, instead of making someone else rich.
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Fister Roboto posted:Very important information: my immediate reaction is that poor girl is going to get so much not good attention from scumbags now and on the antifa terrorist thing, like, shouldn't the USA be an anti-fascist organization, and by declaring an anti-fascist organization terrorists effectively siding with fascists? yes, this is probably fine by the base, just saying.
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# ? May 31, 2020 18:48 |
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anything is legal if the enforcement arm is ok with it and the oversight doesn't care
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# ? May 31, 2020 18:49 |
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The smooth brains all keep posting the same three pics of antifascist flags being held in Turkey and Syria.
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maffew buildings posted:my immediate reaction is that poor girl is going to get so much not good attention from scumbags now and on the antifa terrorist thing, like, shouldn't the USA be an anti-fascist organization, and by declaring an anti-fascist organization terrorists effectively siding with fascists? yes, this is probably fine by the base, just saying. "ANTI-FA ARE THE REAL FACISTS! JUST BECAUSE THE NAME IS AGAINST FACISM DOESNT MEAN THEY ARENT IN FACT FACIST!" ~ A Chud probably "NAZIS ARE SOCIALISTS! SOCIALIST IS IN THE NAME SO THEY ARE IN FACT SOCIALISTS!" ~ The same chud.
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https://twitter.com/jordanuhl/status/1266917228752056320?s=21 Some of those bad apple clips.
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Well I mean we defeated ISIS for the most part right? And Afghanistan is finally winding down. Antifa could be the exciting new enemy of the decade. We're gonna need to start building more cells at Gitmo.
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I know the answer to both questions! It's capital.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:so the guy with the gladius that got shitstomped? he's exactly who you'd think he is. wasn't even his business, just a bar he liked. Lmao I loving knew it. The only reason I'm glad he didn't die is cuz then all those people on video would be hosed.
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:Those 3 reasons are an amazing hot take on why the protests are happening. I don't know why you're so upset by cspam I generally don't like a lot of the posters there either I didn’t say that’s why protests were happening; it’s really weird how you keep trying to make really specific claims about my posts that are not what I posted. We might agree on a lot of things, but you seem hellbent on attacking me with some weird false narrative.
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pmchem posted:For example, Minneapolis police union, defying its mayor... joat mon posted:Civil law (lawsuits for money) has a kind of causation called res ipsa locuitur. It means 'the thing speaks for itself' and basically relieves a plaintiff of actually proving causation - you just have to show that a bad thing happened in a place where the defendant was in control. It's sort of a legal conclusion of 'well, who else's fault could it be?' Res ipsa locuitur does not apply in criminal cases. and for good reasons. Is there any kind of qualified immunity for a police union? I would think no.
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Lake of Methane posted:For example, Minneapolis police union, defying its mayor... The kind of scum that the majority of cops elect to speak for them tells you everything you need to know about the majority of cops. https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2020/05/minneapolis-police-union-president-kroll-george-floyd-racism/ quote:In 2007, Kroll also referred to former US Rep. Keith Ellison, who is Muslim and Black and has pushed for criminal justice reforms, as a terrorist, according to a lawsuit filed by now–Police Chief Medaria Arradondo alleging racism within the police department. The lawsuit accused Kroll of wearing a motorcycle jacket with a white-power patch sewed into the fabric, and said he had “a history of discriminatory attitudes and conduct.” He has told reporters he was part of the City Heat motorcycle club, some of whose members have been described by the Anti-Defamation League as displaying white supremacist symbols. Kroll did not respond to a request for comment but has denied the allegations in the past.
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Hey guys, I know you all hate police, but this is good poo poo https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1266895422397779968?s=19 https://twitter.com/HAlex1972/status/1266925954720501761?s=19 https://twitter.com/NHRunningLady/status/1266931730428166144?s=19 https://twitter.com/MsTinkKalua/status/1266939223711428610?s=19 I really really hope this is a sign of things to come. Police need to start actually policing their own ranks. Good Chiefs need to kick out the racists and bad cops. DAs need to start charging cops when its clear excessive force. Bad cops need to get fired more. And not reinstated cuz of a lawsuit. Laws need to change at the state and federal level. Federally mandated standards, DOJ oversight and mandatory use of force reporting down to the "gently put your hands on them to cuff them" level. This is a good first step in some communities. I really hope this spreads. And I really hope this is a sign of things to come. This poo poo has never happened before. It is really good. But it's not enough - it has to continue.
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This is starting in Overtown, a historically black district in downtown Miami at 3PM EST. 50/50 shot if I-95 gets shut down again but most of the chatter is about marching to the police station a few blocks away. Downtown Miami got shut down with a curfew last night but there was alot going on e: they seem to be a good follow for Miami news if anyone cares Waroduce fucked around with this message at 19:19 on May 31, 2020 |
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Wasabi the J posted:The smooth brains all keep posting the same three pics of antifascist flags being held in Turkey and Syria. https://twitter.com/jkass99/status/1267149072864956417?s=20
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Jeez look at these Nazis, am i right guys?
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Bored As gently caress posted:Hey guys, I know you all hate police, but this is good poo poo they can leave the force if they feel so strongly they wont.
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# ? May 31, 2020 19:22 |
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So I understand the picture right, is that a picture of a US supported group in Syria?
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Bored As gently caress posted:Jeez look at these Nazis, am i right guys? Heres more footage of the same 'antifa' looting a house and menacing an old lady.
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Is there any kind of qualified immunity for a police union? I would think no. [/quote] You're correct. Check out Morris Dees' and SPLC's lawsuits against klan and neo-nazi groups for the outer limit on how to attack these groups and what you need to get there.
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Holy loving poo poo the mugshots in those articles what a genetic loving mess. They look like the squidbillies. The son looks like he has radiation poisoning. Just... what the gently caress
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hobbesmaster posted:So I understand the picture right, is that a picture of a US supported group in Syria? It's antifascist volunteers fighting ISIS
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# ? May 31, 2020 19:33 |
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Chud bar owner in Omaha posts about pulling "firewatch" outside his business, ends up provoking a group of protestors with slurs and expletives, ends up shooting a 22 year old kid in the neck as a group tired to deescalate and disarm him. Police never booked or charged him but are "investigating". There's tons of video too, so I guess we're going to see a new Hotspot here tonight.
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lmao this is literally a loving pavlovian response, fatigues + masks + desert = terrorists
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