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Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

tarlibone posted:

I don't know, but your experience is the same as mine has been. It's one of the reasons I'm not a big fan of active basses. That, and when I was cutting my teeth back in the day, active electronics were more often than not a gimmick, a bagging point that justified a higher price tag. I was never really impressed with the sound, because it was way too compressed, often too hot, and just kind-of dead sounding. Granted, I never had a really high-end example, and there was some tweaking to your amp and bass you could do to alleviate some of the signal level and compression issues, but still, it wasn't great.

Back then, though, your instrument wouldn't work at all without a battery or two. A lot of active systems now are basically preamps that work with passive pickups and electronics, and the basses even have a passive mode. Maybe those instruments have a very low power draw?

I've got a Hohner Jack bass - which, as far as I can tell, was made in about 1991. I can switch between active and passive, so its not like I have a decorative plank when the battery dies. I usually have the tone set flat and mostly use it for the boost. I occasionally wonder whether it might be better to pull out the pre-amp and just put in some hot passive pick-ups, but that'd be a project for the distant future.

DrChu posted:

I got those figures from this thread which mirrors my experiences with Stingrays: http://forums.ernieball.com/ernie-ball-music-man-basses/46093-battery-lifetime-result.html

I have a Stingray 4 that's about 30 years old and a more recent 5, and I haven't had to replace the batteries on either in the 5+ years I've owned them. (I also practice way less than two hours per day :()

I don't practice that much either. If I'm careful, the battery lasts for a while, though not years. Of course, I forget to unplug just once...

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Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

I find it difficult to keep practicing band repertoire while band is on hiatus due to covid, but I didn't want to completely lose touch with the instrument. So, I downloaded yousician and I'm going through the lessons there, but using standard notation rather than tab. I've wanted to learn standard notation for a while and this is a fairly fun/painless way to do it. And they have some actual licensed content on there now as well which is cool.

abske_fides
Apr 20, 2010
Been getting more into bass again, and considering I love to play with other people but really don't have much time for a band right now in the traditional sense, any tips on finding online projects to play for especially in metal (doom & black) or progressive/experimental styles?

odiv
Jan 12, 2003

Just picked up a used Yamaha bass on a whim and is there a headphone amp that's recommended or can I just get whatever cheap thing is available to start? 0 bass experience.

I have an audio interface for the computer, but I want to be able to practice without it.

Also, hi bass thread. I can post a picture and model number if anyone is interested, which I might do in the post your purchases thread in a bit. I've been buying a lot of random stuff lately (maybe it's because I'm closing fast on 40).

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
If you play with a pick, it's usually loud enough to practice acoustically without amplification. Headphone amps don't really have a great sound ime, I own the vox bass one it's really thin sounding. If you want/need an amp get a used practice amp from your local classifieds, they should be cheap as chips.

Looking into getting a used 5 string jazz style bass. Looking at a Lakland Skyline 5501 or G&L Tribute 2500. Can't play shows but w/e

odiv
Jan 12, 2003

Thanks for saving me from spending money on a headphone amp. I'll use the interface for now or try to play without an amp.

What a time to discover my right headphone has a really bad rattle whenever there's a bunch of low end. :/ I guess this way the money I'll be spending is somewhat justified.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

eh you really need some kind of amp to practice - sure you can make a bass loud enough to hear acoustically, but then your dynamics are DANANANANANA

I mean if that's what you're going for anyway fine! Otherwise you really need to develop some control (especially fingerstyle) and you need some kind of amp for that. Doesn't need to sound good or anything - won't be as fun and inspiring but does the job. Use the interface imo

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Learning how to control random noise is so much harder on bass than guitar and if you practice too much acoustically then plug in it’ll be kind of an unpleasant surprise, at least it was to me. Like I practiced mostly acoustically the first few weeks I had it and was bemoaning how hard it was to make finger picking sound clear and good then plug in and everything was so loud, it takes so much more effort to mute strings properly on those thick rear end strings. My weak guitar fingers are so limp and useless

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Just agreeing with everyone: you will develop bar technique from practicing without an amp. Get a cheap amp. It's better and more fun. Also, the acoustic sound is so small a part of the sound of the instrument that it's not even close to the real deal.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
Yeah echoing their thoughts, you don't want to develop the bad habit of not muting the strings. I take that for granted that you need to learn to do that when starting. Use the existing interface or get a practice amp.

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014
Fun Shoe
The Vox headphone amp is the one I use. It has decent sound quality, assuming you use quality headphones and not the ear buds included with your phone. It even includes a basic drum track or two that you can jam with.

I use mine a lot for transcribing.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

I mean I play my bass unplugged all the time, but I'm definitely not practicing :v:

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
I use the headphone amp with audio technica mx40s, the sound quality is not great ime. If I was going to use headphones I find i'm better off using an interface. Once you are already using the interface, you can then play with any number of drum tracks from youtube or whatever drum samples or sequencer you have.

Chunderbucket
Aug 31, 2006

I had a beer with Stephen Miller once and now I like him.

Get one of those neato little ones you just plug into the bass, don't break it, enjoying muting your strings and hearing things and becoming the bass god u were born to

edit: yeah dude the amplug vvv

Chunderbucket fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Jun 1, 2020

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

I use a cheap headphone amp, sounds fine to me for practice. It's on Amazon it's called Basement. It's a generic Amplug and it's like $20.

odiv
Jan 12, 2003

Yeah, the interface is cool and good so far, was just looking into headphone amps in case the computer's off or something and I just want to gently caress around for a bit.

Also I have a cabin out of town I might head to on weekends, so there's that.

Thanks for the tips.

odiv
Jan 12, 2003

Okay, last question for a bit but is something like this Duality bass amp sim from Audio Assault a good thing to pick up and use to get some different sounds out of since it's only $7 right now? No aspirations of anyone but me hearing this, so I don't care from a production standpoint, but I thought it might help with variety.

https://audio-assault.com/duality.php

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

I play my bass all the time unplugged in a loud room and it’s fine :shrug: translates to plugged in fine too. Just don’t play super hard. You should be able to feel the note and hear it without much issue. Amps are 10/10 tho always be ampin’!

Schwza
Apr 28, 2008
Playing without an amp for a few years gave me a very percussive finger style that doesn't always translate when you plug in. Had to unlearn some bad habits.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

odiv posted:

Okay, last question for a bit but is something like this Duality bass amp sim from Audio Assault a good thing to pick up and use to get some different sounds out of since it's only $7 right now? No aspirations of anyone but me hearing this, so I don't care from a production standpoint, but I thought it might help with variety.

https://audio-assault.com/duality.php

You can get GK Amplification 2 LE for free if you don't want to spend any money.

odiv
Jan 12, 2003

Nice thanks. I also just got SHB-1: http://www.igniteamps.com/#shb-1

abske_fides
Apr 20, 2010
Dropped the axe and ordered a 5 string.... can't frickin' wait to get it!

The Wiggly Wizard
Aug 21, 2008


I have an electric upright I want to sell to free up serious double bass funds. As someone who doesn't really buy or sell gear often, what's the best place to list it for a local sale? It's kind of a niche item.

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

The Wiggly Wizard posted:

I have an electric upright I want to sell to free up serious double bass funds. As someone who doesn't really buy or sell gear often, what's the best place to list it for a local sale? It's kind of a niche item.

Reverb has been my go-to as of late to buy used gear.

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?
Reverb, then spam links to your reverb post in local buy/sell groups (Craigslist, Facebook marketplace n Facebook local music gear groups, etc). If they're local they can contact you directly for local meetup and no shipping hassle.

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino

odiv posted:

Okay, last question for a bit but is something like this Duality bass amp sim from Audio Assault a good thing to pick up and use to get some different sounds out of since it's only $7 right now? No aspirations of anyone but me hearing this, so I don't care from a production standpoint, but I thought it might help with variety.

https://audio-assault.com/duality.php

I haven't tried Duality, but whilst a lot of AA's plugins are good, including the ampsims, the bass offerings I have from them are not. This could possibly be down to the cabinets on them because they all have some horrendous papery ringing treble frequencies, but between that GK one and the SHB you're probably set anyway. Don't forget to grab the free TSE BOD sansamp-style plugin too if you don't already have it, that thing is awesome.

pumped up for school
Nov 24, 2010

I'm too lazy to stage a pretty photo, so here's the one I sent back to the shop I ordered this pickguard (bassmods).



Looks pretty clear to me it is the 5er, but I sent the photo back with a (I thought polite) note that I ordered a 4-string version.

I was going for halloween bass. Color is pretty sharp and for $26 shipped I'm really not expecting much more than "tolerances vary. pound sand" but it has been a week and nothing but crickets.

Placentaur
Jan 17, 2009

I'm looking at getting the Yamaha TRBX 605 but I'm not really sure what kind of pickups it has.

I currently have a Fender P Bass (4 string) and I know there are like J basses and humbucker basses, and I think I'm looking for a J bass just to expand the sounds (and it looks cool). I currently have roundwounds on my P bass and I plan to put flats on the Yamaha.

But basically, is the TRBX 605 a J bass if ran passive? It looks like it has J bass pickups but I guess things on bass aren't as clear to me as like, guitar pickups (I don't even really play guitar it's just that their pickup varieties make more sense to me).

Thanks!

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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I like my Jazz, but i leave both the pickups wide open 99% of the time. I don't have humbuckers for it (and it's kind of hard to find inexpensive ones for a jazz 5string?) and whenever the volume controls are uneven there's some single coil buzz.

BDA
Dec 10, 2007

Extremely grim and evil.

Placentaur posted:

I'm looking at getting the Yamaha TRBX 605 but I'm not really sure what kind of pickups it has.
They're soapbar humbuckers.

DrChu
May 14, 2002

Pickup position probably matters more than pickup type (at least when comparing single coils vs other single coils, and humbuckers vs other humbuckers (and assuming the same serial/parallel config)). That Yamaha is not going to sound like a Jazz because the pickups are humbuckers and both are closer to the bridge, though it will share some tonal characteristics since it has dual pickups, and most likely those pickups are wired in series rather than parallel.

Placentaur
Jan 17, 2009

Anime Reference posted:

They're soapbar humbuckers.

DrChu posted:

Pickup position probably matters more than pickup type (at least when comparing single coils vs other single coils, and humbuckers vs other humbuckers (and assuming the same serial/parallel config)). That Yamaha is not going to sound like a Jazz because the pickups are humbuckers and both are closer to the bridge, though it will share some tonal characteristics since it has dual pickups, and most likely those pickups are wired in series rather than parallel.

Thanks! These are both helpful.

H13
Nov 30, 2005

Fun Shoe
So which is the ultimate Bass Distortion pedal? Is it the ProCo Rat? Or the ProCo Rat?

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?

H13 posted:

So which is the ultimate Bass Distortion pedal? Is it the ProCo Rat? Or the ProCo Rat?

Rat circuit with a dry blend :colbert:

...which still takes second place to a Brassmaster.
E: timestamp doesn't want to work, brassmaster sample 3:05
Brassmaster sample

The Science Goy fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Jun 17, 2020

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

H13 posted:

So which is the ultimate Bass Distortion pedal? Is it the ProCo Rat? Or the ProCo Rat?
Weird how it's also the ultimate guitar distortion pedal

e: though that Brassmaster sounds great

Thumposaurus
Jul 24, 2007

I have an old rear end R2DU rack unit I picked up on ebay years ago. It's 2 Rats with a remote foot switch and you can either run them to different parts of a signal chain or run them into each other. I run it into a vintage Acoustic bass head and an Ampeg 1x15 and it is glorious:black101:

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are
Why just have a Rat when you can have a Tone Bending Rat?

https://catalinbread.com/products/katzenkonig

Plus it's a beautiful pedal.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Just get a Mooer Black Secret, simple as.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Always get a clean blend for your bass distortion.

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Gorgar
Dec 2, 2012

Always run the neck pickup clean, distortion on the bridge.

Don’t think I’ve tried it on bass but I love the Katzenkoenig.

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