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Tylana
May 5, 2011

Pillbug
It is definitely a shock! Haha.

I suppose we should be glad this isn't the kind of game where this unlocks sliders and wardrobe menus for the cognition filter. Though the idea of Angela offering them and then say "No, you are wrong, my settings are already optimal." and blocking you would be very her.

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TeeQueue
Oct 9, 2012

The time has come. Soon, the bell shall ring. A new world will come. Rise, my servants. Rise and serve me. I am death and life. Darkness and light.
*Fiddles with cognition filter settings for a bit...*



There we go. Now she's optimal.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
Yeah it is a good thing that we have the cognition filter up or else the poo poo we would see when things go wrong would be horrifying.

eternaldough
Jan 16, 2017

How are you coming up with these self-imposed challenges... and at one point do you just choose to start playing blindfolded? I'm pretty sure you could pull it off.

TeeQueue
Oct 9, 2012

The time has come. Soon, the bell shall ring. A new world will come. Rise, my servants. Rise and serve me. I am death and life. Darkness and light.

eternaldough posted:

How are you coming up with these self-imposed challenges... and at one point do you just choose to start playing blindfolded? I'm pretty sure you could pull it off.

I mostly just think about “what is something crazy that I should be able to pull off at this point in the game,” and try to move them as far forward as possible without making them easy via research. On a related note, I have ideas for 20, 25, and beyond, but not much for day 15 outside of maybe saying ‘’Left clicks only.” :sweatdrop:

As for playing blindfolded, I don’t know nearly enough about the game’s audio cues to have a chance, and the setup I’d want to use for it would make for a very uncompelling update since it’d be all zoomed out all the time.

BisbyWorl posted:

Great, now I want a challenge mode where the filter is disabled.

It gives you a sanity bar that drains when you look at abnormalities and corpses, and if it ever hits 0 you snap and Angela has to kill you.

This is a terrifying idea, but if they changed the art assets to go with it I’d probably play it anyways. I can just stare at a corner until my sanity comes back... it’s okay..! :stonklol:

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

why is it called "Today's Shy Look" and not "Jerk-Face"

warhammer651
Jul 21, 2012

Hwurmp posted:

why is it called "Today's Shy Look" and not "Jerk-Face"

because they're a shy introvert, not an rear end in a top hat. They even give people face masks in this trying time where masks are both vital and hard to buy.


Which brings up a question. Employees are not allowed to leave the Corp, do we even bother to actually pay them? is there like, a LobCorp shopping mall just out of sight for the employees to spend their company scrip?

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

they are literally jerked faces though

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.

warhammer651 posted:

because they're a shy introvert, not an rear end in a top hat. They even give people face masks in this trying time where masks are both vital and hard to buy.


Which brings up a question. Employees are not allowed to leave the Corp, do we even bother to actually pay them? is there like, a LobCorp shopping mall just out of sight for the employees to spend their company scrip?

can't spell scrip without scp :tinfoil:

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
The abormalities give them all they need. They all give clothes and tools. Laetitia gives out entertaining presents. Shy look provides PPE. Beauty supplies from the mirror. Dead worm invaders provide food. Etc

TheGreatEvilKing
Mar 28, 2016





Some of the agent incidental dialogue mentions the pay is good.

Did the war take out OSHA or something?

Evil Kit
May 29, 2013

I'm viable ladies.

Thanks for all the feedback guys! I'll probably dig in this week and give it a go from day 1 again. Was definitely a bit dissatisfied with some Abnormality pulls.

Also this story bit is just the perfect flash of disorienting if you slam through it, and equally unsettling if you just stop and stare at it for a while. I love it!

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.

warhammer651 posted:

because they're a shy introvert, not an rear end in a top hat. They even give people face masks in this trying time where masks are both vital and hard to buy.

Nonsense. They are expecting my agent to be just on the door to move from 1 to 5.

booksnake
May 4, 2009

we who are crowned with the crest of wisdom
That figure sitting right where there's a bloody streak on the wall... is there just a dead body sitting there in our office constantly that we aren't seeing?

serefin99
Apr 15, 2016

Mikoooon~
Your lovely shrine maiden fox wife, Tamamo no Mae, is here to help!

TeeQueue posted:

*Fiddles with cognition filter settings for a bit...*



There we go. Now she's optimal.

:five:

Nick Buntline
Dec 20, 2007
Doesn't know the impossible.

booksnake posted:

That figure sitting right where there's a bloody streak on the wall... is there just a dead body sitting there in our office constantly that we aren't seeing?

Of course not.

Our office would have more monitors in it. That's clearly Angela's office that has the dead body.

Big Mad Drongo
Nov 10, 2006

booksnake posted:

That figure sitting right where there's a bloody streak on the wall... is there just a dead body sitting there in our office constantly that we aren't seeing?

Nah, he's recuperating with all the other agents you thought you killed. They're all just out of frame, recovering too.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

TeeQueue posted:

This is a terrifying idea, but if they changed the art assets to go with it I’d probably play it anyways. I can just stare at a corner until my sanity comes back... it’s okay..! :stonklol:

Yeah aside from art the developers would probably have to get creative in designing their system, to avoid patent lawsuits from nintendo.

bbcisdabomb
Jan 15, 2008

SHEESH

TheGreatEvilKing posted:

Some of the agent incidental dialogue mentions the pay is good.

Did the war take out OSHA or something?

I imagine the agents are hired and paid under the table. Lobotomy Corp doesn't seem like the sort of place to pay taxes.

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

Lobotomy Corporation is one of the "Wings of the World." I assume that means it's a big enough mega-corperation to pull the typical mega-corperation tricks.

mizure
Apr 14, 2020

Mizu "Just Mizu" Mizu, reporting for cutie!
TL;DR

The Watercrown
Feb 10, 2014

We Shall Become Gods

We Shall Become Gods

WE SHALL ALL DIE AND BECOME AS GODS
So, this story update raises an interesting question. What exactly are the AI here? Just software? Holograms? Robots? When the cognition filter fails, Angela is affected as well, so is she just popping up on our monitor? Are our eyes implants?

And on the plot on the LP side of things, I am suspecting that our manager is looking through the job applications to find their own.

TeeQueue
Oct 9, 2012

The time has come. Soon, the bell shall ring. A new world will come. Rise, my servants. Rise and serve me. I am death and life. Darkness and light.
So due to some doctor's appointments I wasn't able to do my usual recording session this morning. Whoops.

Anyways, I've gone back and finished off the guidelines of the abnormalities I haven't shown yet, they've been added to the relevant posts.


Also, here's a picture of me scrawling numbers on post-it notes to figure out if level 1 agents can work Laetitia:



It turns out that some of them can. :eng101:

omegasgundam
Mar 30, 2010
This is the true Lobotomy Corp experience.

Onean
Feb 11, 2010

Maiden in white...
You are not one of us.
Haven't taken a look at the LP forum in forever, and the first thing I see is this? Nice.

I love the premise of this game, but I'm so incredibly bad at it. I'm glad I'll get to finally see more than I had the patience to give this gem.

eternaldough
Jan 16, 2017

The cognition filter cutscene is really good and adds a cool bit of lore, but I wouldn't recommend thinking too hard about how it applies to every given cutscene from here on out.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

:five:

Zetsubou-san
Jan 28, 2015

Cruel Bifaunidas demanded that you [stand]🧍 I require only that you [kneel]🧎
I made a gang tag

Aeromancia
Jul 23, 2013

TeeQueue posted:

So due to some doctor's appointments I wasn't able to do my usual recording session this morning. Whoops.

Anyways, I've gone back and finished off the guidelines of the abnormalities I haven't shown yet, they've been added to the relevant posts.


Also, here's a picture of me scrawling numbers on post-it notes to figure out if level 1 agents can work Laetitia:



It turns out that some of them can. :eng101:

I feel like this game is super interesting, but I do not want to go through and math it all out.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
Maths: The real insanity

warhammer651
Jul 21, 2012

Aeromancia posted:

I feel like this game is super interesting, but I do not want to go through and math it all out.

I would argue it isn't really necessary, the game has mechanics that encourage trial and error to an extent

TeeQueue
Oct 9, 2012

The time has come. Soon, the bell shall ring. A new world will come. Rise, my servants. Rise and serve me. I am death and life. Darkness and light.


Zetsubou-san posted:

I made a gang tag



:eyepop: These are both amazing. How do gang tags work again? It's just an img tag you put under your avatar, right?


Aeromancia posted:

I feel like this game is super interesting, but I do not want to go through and math it all out.

Math is thankfully optional. You can go through and figure out all the numbers and know what's going to happen beforehand like in a Fire Emblem or something, but at the same time you can just trial and error/eyeball things and you'll generally be able to get by.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

TeeQueue posted:

:eyepop: These are both amazing. How do gang tags work again? It's just an img tag you put under your avatar, right?

Tags can only be inlined under an avatar if they’re already hosted on SA, so either someone needs to buy it as an avatar first or a mod/admin needs to chuck it in manually and then hopefully also give it to people who don’t want to spend dosh.

Evil Kit
May 29, 2013

I'm viable ladies.


I may or may not steal this, it's been a long rear end while since I changed my avatar. Then again, he isn't even my favorite sephirot. Fantastic regardless!


Zetsubou-san posted:

I made a gang tag



Mods???

TeeQueue
Oct 9, 2012

The time has come. Soon, the bell shall ring. A new world will come. Rise, my servants. Rise and serve me. I am death and life. Darkness and light.
Day 10: Gameplay

Music: neutral 2
Huh? What're these notices…

"Report to the meeting room for cleanup duty." Maybe something escaped?

If I had to guess, we're going to be cleaning up the bodies Malkuth left there after her little tantrum.

Uugh, you mean she can get worse? :gonk:

We'll tell you all about it during cleanup duty.

Nothing to it but to smile and get the job done, then!

---



Manager, I've rolled out some training manuals to the clerks that should give them an idea how to handle the threats they're likely to face here. That may help pick up some of the slack.

It won't, but thanks.

Have you selected the best agents from those available?

I hope so. Newbies are pretty much all the same without going through some kind of training program.

In that case, who am I working with today?




Medea is suited up to avoid dying despite her 15 HP, and Mr.Blond has a rarity: a beginner title that doesn't reduce a stat to 15. Our greatest issue today is going to be a lack of suits, Credentia and SeyserKoze will have to do without. This is fine for them, since their department deals in easy Abnormalities and we really only need 3 people to perform works.

I assume I have a new team as well. Bear in mind that we have two HE-level Abnormalities.




My plans in Information have to be a little more creative, since anyone walking into one of the HE chambers will be instantly taking 60% of their SP in damage. To deal with Laetitia I have Twee-after a lot of calculations earlier, I figured out that an agent with her stat spread should be able to consistently survive if we beat the average results spread, and only panic if we miss it. Sephiroth's job is to walk up to Father Christmas in case of a meltdown and babble incoherently about his mom until he goes crazy. Both of them are Prudence-highest agents, so they'll stand still if they fail their works.

Boksi, Ishmael, and Tenebrais are there to beat the poo poo out of them when they panic so that nobody snaps their own neck. That's all they will be doing unless Shy Look has a meltdown. With a total of 10 Agents in the building, we can afford to lose one without any penalty to our LOB gains.

Manager, it should take five full meltdown periods to finish the cleanup.

So I'm stuck until we hit VI, huh? Alright. Let's do this.

:siren: DAY 10 CHALLENGE: OOPS! ALL NEWBIES :siren:

Rules: Reach level VI with a facility of only level 1 agents.





It's time. Remember to follow the protocols.



Call me Ishmael. Some days ago - never mind how long precisely - having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me in the city, I thought I would find a job and see the wings of the world. It is a way I have of driving off the spleen and regulating the circulation.

...I can't believe I have to hang out with you today. :what:

I just think it's about time they went ahead and hired someone really talented like myself.

Oh… were you a SOLDIER as well?

No idea what that means. Was in an organization once, though.



Alright ladies, gentlemen and dumbasses. We've got a job to do, and the sooner it's done the better.

Right! Leave it to me!

We're all super screwed, I can feel it in my hair.

I just can't wait to learn more about these Abnormalities!

Orders from the top, everyone! Credentia, Mr.Blond, Medea, go ahead and give working a try.

S'all good, boss!



The plan at the start is to have the agents in Control work with the upper three. After some faffing about, I settle in on having Medea work with One Sin on Insight, Mr.Blond working with 1.76 on Repression, and Chinley on Forsaken Murderer. This is one of the downsides of having 5 members who need training in one department, it's impossible to properly cycle training around since two people are going to be idle at all times.



Our first work on the 3 Control Abnormalities shoves us to 29 energy. Gathering the energy won't be a problem, what really matters is the meltdowns avoiding Rudolta.



Hey… like, did you know your hair sort of hovers over your head?

Yes, I got that done in the Nest, actually. It alerts me to danger and it's a hell of a fashion statement.

Woah… You really can buy anything there.



It's such a shame that they let the riffraff in… but I suppose it's more bodies to put in front of the truly great people.

All mortal greatness is but disease.

...Hmph! I suppose that means you're one of them. Try not to get the stench on me.



The first meltdown level hits 1.76 MHz. Since Dawns don't cause meltdowns, that means we only need to get lucky one more time of the two remaining meltdown rolls and Rudolta won't break out. And with a Green Dawn coming on top of it, we're having a pretty lucky day so far. :woop:

Since it seems like Control's gotten into the swing of things, it's time we do some work. Twee, you're assigned to talk to Laetitia.

Awesome! But uh… If I can ask, sir…



Why am I being escorted?

If you go crazy, they're under orders to beat you sane again.

Oh, cool!

This is the plan I mentioned above in action. If Twee panics, the three of them will beat her back to sanity. I realize later that I only really need to assign one person to this hallway to prevent a suicide, but overkill is still the best kind of kill.



She's… too good for this world! Too pure..! :gonk:

Losing 60% of a low SP gauge right off is a bit painful, but it at least ensures Twee can't die doing this work. However,



Gee golly, you sure know a lot about magic! I can't wait to talk with you again! :D

Laetitia is a good girl who has done nothing wrong in her life so it's fine.



With one work until the next meltdown, I stack everyone in the facility into the Control main room. Since any of our level 1 Agents would lose in a 1v1 against the Dawn, my plan is to just dogpile on them and take them out quickly. SeyserKoze is sent to work One Sin, and this sets us underway.

Good luck everyone!

Do I finally get to hit something, now?



Manager, the clerks have engaged the Green Dawns.

I don't like how that one on the right maimed the corpse. We'll hold back until they've been cleared out.

So you're just going to leave my employees to die?!

Don't be ridiculous. Clerks don't count.

Since the Doubt's on-kill attack deals a lot of very quick hits of White damage, they're at their most dangerous when they've just killed something weak, like a Clerk. Remember that prior to today our Clerks would panic and run away from these things, who couldn't swing fast enough to hit them? Yeah, they've actually gotten more dangerous due to the upgrade we got this morning-so we wait for the coast to be clear rather than risk panicking the entire facility.



That should be all of the ones in the immediate area.

While the Dawns were busy, I ordered the Agents into the elevator directly above them. Putting Agents into elevators is a double-edged sword, since all of them pile on top of each other. When an enemy walks in, all of the DPS of every Agent in there is directly on them, but it leaves Agents vulnerable to attacks that can hit multiple targets.



No quarter! No mercy! No hesitation! :black101:

No doubt! :ocelot:

It dies just after this, and everyone is moved back to the main room to heal HP/SP back to full.



So uh… this thorn crown thing. It's good, right?

Based on my initial observations, yes. It should be fine.

Compared to the battles in Wutai, these foes are nothing…

Stop babbling nonsense while there're still asses to kick.

Heh. I like this guy's style.



While I reposition the team again, the other Doubt picks a fight with Zeta5.



It does not end well for Zeta5.



To be fair, it also does not end well for the Doubt. That's the second hurdle overcome. As long as Rudolta doesn't come up in both of the next two meltdowns, we're clear for the day.



She gave me a hat!

Getting back to work, Laetitia gives Twee a hat and has another perfectly fine work result. Medea and Mr.Blond also go back to work upstairs, alongside Chinley working with Forsaken Murderer.



The third meltdown here is 1.76. That means that we've missed Rudolta again, so we don't have to worry about it escaping today! :woop:

Boksi, get on Shy Look, it's got a good face right now.



For someone of my caliber to be nervous… How interesting!



How's the cleanup going over there?

It is progressing smoothly, X. We should be finished in two more meltdown cycles.

Good. Great! Keep it up, I'll make sure nothing happens until then.

Yes, Manager.



I dunno, I think Instinct work is better. It's easier to understand, just feed them.

Saaame.

Well… I guess I can't expect everyone to get it. Still, I'm going to understand everything about them so I can properly care for any Abnormality we see here!

That sounds perfectly perfect to me!



Rudolta finally gets hit by a meltdown, so it's time for Sephiroth to do what he's here for.



He does Insight work on Rudolta, while Tenebris waits just outside.

:sassargh: *incoherent sputtering*

Presents? I have no need of such things. Pour your hatred out, and let darkness consume your heart!



And what is this music? We should change from bells to gongs, and carolers to choirs. Mother would wish it so.

:tfrxmas:



Predictably, Sephiroth screws up-Rudolta is just too much damage for a level 1 Agent to work with. This gives us a bad result, which both lowers its QC to 1, and fails Yesod's mission for the day. Oh well, we can get it another time.



Veni, veni, venias, Ne me mori facias, Veni, veni, venias, Ne me mori facias..!

Oh, I've been waiting all day for this.



This is after one hit. A second one is enough to finish fixing him.



You have earned my gratitude. Once I have become a god, I shall lead you to the promised land.

Don't make me club you again.

Using a sacrifice like this is an ideal strategy for when we don't have a better way to deal with an Abnormality that's too strong for us. Ideally, we'll always be able to work our Abnormalities-but it's important to keep nonstandard plans like this one in our back pocket for just in case something happens that sets our Agents back several pegs. :eng101:



With this last obstacle cleared, there's nothing else preventing us from coasting to the finish line, and we do this by having Twee work with Laetitia one more time.

Manager, the cleanup is complete. No agents are showing mental corruption levels above 79%.

Great, let's call it before things can get any worse. We got lucky today.

You think so? I'd say it is more evidence of your skill as a manager.



You all did the best you could. Get some sleep.

Mr.Blond and Twee get boosted straight to rank 2, and notably Sephiroth is not on the list at all-Agents only get EXP for works they finish.

Music: never frozen bottom flows


F-01-87: The city still remained a beautiful place where the emerald roads sparkled bright as ever.
O-02-98: Now it's time for my head to burst. Good day.
T-05-51: Many hands float in the bath. They are the hands of the people I once loved.

I was hoping for a HE-level Justice trainer, but it seems that the game is punishing me for getting through today unscathed instead.

Several Abnormalities have stat requirements, where agents either need to be higher or lower than a certain level in a stat in order to work the Abnormality safely. The ones which require a stat minimum aren't so bad, but the ones which have a stat maximum are among the most annoying to manage Abnormalities in the game, since we have to purposely limit ourselves to be able to work them. These three all have various stat requirements. We'll start with -51: a basic TETH with a low requirement for Fort/Temperance to work. Its gear is meh, it doesn't breach, and while it's easy to work we'd rather get something a bit better for us right now.

The next one, -98, requires a Temperance of 4 to work. With Laetitia in the facility this isn't a problem, and it's actually quite a powerful Instinct trainer. However, it's troublesome to deal with when it breaches and most importantly its suit is weak against Red damage. Weakness to Red damage is a huge liability at this point in the game, so this isn't a great pick either.

Finally, there's -87. Nobody likes -87. It's a breach-prone jerk of an Abnormality with a prohibitively low maximum Prudence requirement to work safely, and when it breaks out it can and will lay out a large number of employees if it's not fought carefully. However, it also comes with access to a pair of 0.6x Red suits and some very powerful weapons to go with them. Since none of these three are worth anything to our training plans, it's all about prioritizing gear vs risk.



I don't think this is a surprise at this point. :getin:

Next time, on Lobotomy Corporation: A conspicuous lack of Angela. :tinfoil:

TeeQueue fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Jul 2, 2021

Yapping Eevee
Nov 12, 2011

STAND TOGETHER.
FIGHT WITH HONOR.
RESTORE BALANCE.

Eevees play for free.
"If you got crazy, they're under orders to beat you sane again." :allears:

And then Sephiroth is savaged with a Christmas present. I couldn't have asked for anything more from the newbie update.

TeeQueue
Oct 9, 2012

The time has come. Soon, the bell shall ring. A new world will come. Rise, my servants. Rise and serve me. I am death and life. Darkness and light.
Ahh heck, I thought I'd suppressed all the typos. Thanks for pointing it out, got it fixed now.

Talow
Dec 26, 2012


Congratulations on beating Sephiroth sane with a Christmas present.

Yapping Eevee
Nov 12, 2011

STAND TOGETHER.
FIGHT WITH HONOR.
RESTORE BALANCE.

Eevees play for free.

TeeQueue posted:

Ahh heck, I thought I'd suppressed all the typos. Thanks for pointing it out, got it fixed now.
I actually just quoted that because I liked the line. :ssh: It's a very LobCorp thing to beat people back into sanity (or whatever passes for it around here).

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TeeQueue
Oct 9, 2012

The time has come. Soon, the bell shall ring. A new world will come. Rise, my servants. Rise and serve me. I am death and life. Darkness and light.
Oh! Well thank you very much for that too! Beating people back to normal is just one of the time honored Lobotomy Corporation traditions. :black101:

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