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Cops are fuckwits with power fantasies too stupid to become PE teachers and too unhinged for the army. e: helluva snipe.
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bowmore posted:you don’t get what it means clearly Let me guess, we're about to hear about how police only exist to "protect capital"
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freebooter posted:Unpopular opinion: ACAB is a useless edgelord phrase cracked out by people who have a view of law enforcement just as rigid and divorced from reality as the Blue Lives Matter bootlickers No it isn't. You sign on to defend an unjust system and if you don't realise that you're going to be given a truncheon and directed to bean citizens to protect your position and your betters' positions you're a bastard and a loving idiot.
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JBP posted:No it isn't. You sign on to defend an unjust system and if you don't realise that you're going to be given a truncheon and directed to bean citizens to protect your position and your betters' positions you're a bastard and a loving idiot. How much of a police officer's career - and this is just a beat cop, not a detective - do you think involves wearing riot gear and confronting protesters, and how much of it involves responding to assaults, vehicles accidents, burglaries, missing persons, etc? Just a rough estimate as a percentage of their time? Bearing in mind that we're talking about real human beings making career choices in the real imperfect world, and not anarchists hypothesising about their ideal utopia.
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JBP posted:No it isn't. You sign on to defend an unjust system and if you don't realise that you're going to be given a truncheon and directed to bean citizens to protect your position and your betters' positions you're a bastard and a loving idiot. ACABAFI
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It's just a slogan. Slogans are cartoonish simplifications of reality. You don't need to tie yourself in knots justifying it's use with foucault quotes nor do you need to lay into people becuase actually reality isn't reflected in a four word slogan. Just let people call cops names or whatever. Also please try to differentiate yourselves from the great mass of internet people becuase this is basically a twitter thread
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freebooter posted:How much of a police officer's career - and this is just a beat cop, not a detective - do you think involves wearing riot gear and confronting protesters, and how much of it involves responding to assaults, vehicles accidents, burglaries, missing persons, etc? Just a rough estimate as a percentage of their time? Bearing in mind that we're talking about real human beings making career choices in the real imperfect world, and not anarchists hypothesising about their ideal utopia. % of time spent committing harm seems a real strange road to go down to defend someone
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Jun 3, 2020 05:18
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freebooter posted:How much of a police officer's career - and this is just a beat cop, not a detective - do you think involves wearing riot gear and confronting protesters, and how much of it involves responding to assaults, vehicles accidents, burglaries, missing persons, etc? Just a rough estimate as a percentage of their time? Bearing in mind that we're talking about real human beings making career choices in the real imperfect world, and not anarchists hypothesising about their ideal utopia. How much is stripsearches?
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freebooter posted:How much of a police officer's career - and this is just a beat cop, not a detective - do you think involves wearing riot gear and confronting protesters, and how much of it involves responding to assaults, vehicles accidents, burglaries, missing persons, etc? Just a rough estimate as a percentage of their time? Bearing in mind that we're talking about real human beings making career choices in the real imperfect world, and not anarchists hypothesising about their ideal utopia. How many aboriginal deaths in custody is ok to you?
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freebooter posted:How much of a police officer's career - and this is just a beat cop, not a detective - do you think involves wearing riot gear and confronting protesters, and how much of it involves responding to assaults, vehicles accidents, burglaries, missing persons, etc? Just a rough estimate as a percentage of their time? Bearing in mind that we're talking about real human beings making career choices in the real imperfect world, and not anarchists hypothesising about their ideal utopia. Beat cops do a great job beating up black people, beating up mentally ill people on a health check, etc. Replace most of them with mental health professionals or a community service.
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The national archives lost a court case and now have to release the queen's letters about Gough Whitlam's dismissal to a historian. It would be cool if Queen Liz said "hey john please fire the PM because the CIA are getting mad"
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can we please skip this dance? Just becuase the guy doesn't like the slogan doesn't' mean he's a fascist or whatever
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I didn't hear you saying ACAB when those four cops were flattened in Melbourne
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Amoeba102 posted:Freebootlicker. I really hate this poo poo. Posters like you belong in the depths of a 1000 reply twitter thread filled mainly with reaction gifs. Do you really imagine that anyone would respond to this post at all? Like even a momentary exhaling of air through the nostrils? Do you imagine any aspect of your personality is reflected in this unbelivably deriviative piece of imported americana? gently caress you
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freebooter posted:How much of a police officer's career - and this is just a beat cop, not a detective - do you think involves wearing riot gear and confronting protesters, and how much of it involves responding to assaults, vehicles accidents, burglaries, missing persons, etc? Just a rough estimate as a percentage of their time? Bearing in mind that we're talking about real human beings making career choices in the real imperfect world, and not anarchists hypothesising about their ideal utopia. what percentage of a murder's time is spent committing murders? (hint: it doesn't loving matter, any amount of racist violence is too much for a police officer to perform) Amethyst posted:can we please skip this dance? Just becuase the guy doesn't like the slogan doesn't' mean he's a fascist or whatever feels like it's more than the slogan bothering this guy, tbh.
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Jun 3, 2020 05:26
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This thread loving sucks poo poo. I was right to stay away for several months. Bye.
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Amethyst posted:I really hate this poo poo. Posters like you belong in the depths of a 1000 reply twitter thread filled mainly with reaction gifs. Do you really imagine that anyone would respond to this post at all? Like even a momentary exhaling of air through the nostrils? Do you imagine any aspect of your personality is reflected in this unbelivably deriviative piece of imported americana? gently caress you you responded to it. Amethyst posted:This thread loving sucks poo poo. I was right to stay away for several months. Bye. bye.
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Amethyst posted:This thread loving sucks poo poo. I was right to stay away for several months. Bye. 
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Amethyst posted:This thread loving sucks poo poo. I was right to stay away for several months. Bye. Need support or information around depression and anxiety, for yourself, a friend or family member? The Beyond Blue Support Service provides advice and support via telephone 24/7 (just call 1300 22 4636), daily web chat (between 3pm–12am) and email (with a response provided within 24 hours).
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Amethyst posted:This thread loving sucks poo poo. I was right to stay away for several months. Bye. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/federal-court-live-export-class-action-ruling/12308388 ouch
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Quantum Shart posted:How many aboriginal deaths in custody is ok to you? The correct term is "tortured and beaten to death by police while in custody". hth
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The general theme I've seen from prominent figures involved in the George Floyd protests / BLM is this moment is not about POC in general, or Bernie supporters wanting class struggle, global injustice, or any other worthy cause, this moment is specifically about the struggles Black Americans face and the unique problems Black Americans have with the United States police system. As well intentioned as it is, and despite obvious parallels, this is not America, I would be hesitant to reframe this moment into one about Australia out of respect. Black Americans deserve to have their problems heard without sharing the platform for once.
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Pleasant Friend posted:The general theme I've seen from prominent figures involved in the George Floyd protests / BLM is this moment is not about POC in general, or Bernie supporters wanting class struggle, global injustice, or any other worthy cause, this moment is specifically about the struggles Black Americans face and the unique problems Black Americans have with the United States police system. On the other hand I've been seeing a lot of Indigenous Australians making social media posts drawing attention to parallels, and it's a bit off to tell them to sit down and wait their turn.
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Pleasant Friend posted:The general theme I've seen from prominent figures involved in the George Floyd protests / BLM is this moment is not about POC in general, or Bernie supporters wanting class struggle, global injustice, or any other worthy cause, this moment is specifically about the struggles Black Americans face and the unique problems Black Americans have with the United States police system. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/us-riots-indigenous-deaths-in-custody/12309010 "In the US, African Americans make up about 14 per cent of the population, and roughly 30 per cent of the country's inmates. Indigenous Australians make up 3 per cent of the population and about 30 per cent of the prison population. We lock up Indigenous Australians at four times the rate of black Americans. It's an even more jarring figure in the youth detention system, where about 50 per cent of all detainees are Indigenous."
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Woah, those grenades cops toss at people are terrifying https://twitter.com/jxyzn/status/1267684722341064704
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Pleasant Friend posted:The general theme I've seen from prominent figures involved in the George Floyd protests / BLM is this moment is not about POC in general, or Bernie supporters wanting class struggle, global injustice, or any other worthy cause, this moment is specifically about the struggles Black Americans face and the unique problems Black Americans have with the United States police system. Australians on social media or whatever making a noise about the racism prevalent in Australia's justice system does nothing to diminish the movement in the US. In fact, now is the perfect time for Australian's to raise hell about it, because we've now got people who wouldn't have otherwise given a poo poo riled up about it.
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Just because things are worse elsewhere, doesn't make it Not A Problem here, and just because a cop hasn't literally raped, tortured, or murdered someone, doesn't make them Not A Bastard And freebootlicker was funny
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The Peccadillo posted:Woah, those grenades cops toss at people are terrifying That's what a stun grenade looks like. Big deafening bang and a bright burst of light.
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Just because things are worse elsewhere doesn't mean African Americans don't deserve to have a moment with the world's attention on their problems. I can only speak from my observations of the discourse, but I've seen a lot of resentment at groups that want to reframe this moment and try to make it about themselves or their causes. Its not about Palestinians, or the War in Yemen or Climate Change or Kids in Cages, right now its about the struggles African Americans have with a racist justice system. They want people to listen. At the very least I think its tone deaf for any white person at this point in time to amplify any other message.
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Friendly reminder to everyone that both NSW and VIC police force have been given assault weapons and training in the past 12mo to deal with the ever increasing threat of......*checks notes* peaceful protests.
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Pleasant Friend posted:Just because things are worse elsewhere doesn't mean African Americans don't deserve to have a moment with the world's attention on their problems. Who said anything about "Palestinians, or the War in Yemen or Climate Change or Kids in Cages"? I'm not sure why we would want to hesitate highlighting the extremely related issues of race and police brutality right here in our own country.
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Pleasant Friend posted:Just because things are worse elsewhere doesn't mean African Americans don't deserve to have a moment with the world's attention on their problems. This only makes sense if racism here pauses for the riots in the US to stop.
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Pleasant Friend posted:Just because things are worse elsewhere doesn't mean African Americans don't deserve to have a moment with the world's attention on their problems. If the message is anti-racism then I see a greater problem with your "now is not the time for a frank discussion about racism!" whitewashing than with people halfway across the world using a shocking American phenomenon to try to improve an also hosed situation in their local context Or are you also priming a "don't politicise George Floyd's death, you jackals!!" post
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Pleasant Friend posted:Just because things are worse elsewhere doesn't mean African Americans don't deserve to have a moment with the world's attention on their problems. why don't you be the change you want to see in the world. reach out to some aboriginal groups and tell them to hit pause on their struggles for a moment. it's time for the americans to have a go.
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i mean, has anybody actually...asked what black americans think about police brutality in australia? because i expect they wouldn't like it, and not have a problem with bilateral support to and from america and australia about it, because they're not loving morons
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Granite Octopus posted:Who said anything about "Palestinians, or the War in Yemen or Climate Change or Kids in Cages"? I'm not sure why we would want to hesitate highlighting the extremely related issues of race and police brutality right here in our own country. I don't think there is a nation on earth that doesn't have its own issues with police brutality, however from what I understand, this moment is about Black Americans. Not even police brutality to other POC in America, its about Black America. Sulla Faex posted:If the message is anti-racism then I see a greater problem with your "now is not the time for a frank discussion about racism!" whitewashing than with people halfway across the world using a shocking American phenomenon to try to improve an also hosed situation in their local context I don't get the bad faith attacks. Maybe you don't think Black America deserves all this attention? Maybe you just don't like Americans in general? But I'm not here to tone police, I'm just saying be careful or you'll make yourself look like an rear end.
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A big part of this is that it's NOT just something that happened to one person in "the wrong place at the wrong time" - it's systemic, local, state, national, and international. You HAVE to acknowledge it as part of a broader dynamic which extends beyond simple boundaries. There is a massive difference between co-opting a popular movement in order to dilute the message, and recognising the trigger as part of a broader, systemic issue. George Floyd was murdered by the police in Minneapolis. Why do you then expand it to a national level? Why not keep it focused to Minneapolis? In short - garbage
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Pleasant Friend posted:I don't get the bad faith attacks. Maybe you don't think Black America deserves all this attention? Maybe you just don't like Americans in general? But I'm not here to tone police, I'm just saying be careful or you'll make yourself look like an rear end. Oh I just saw this I don't recognise the username, is this a troll account?
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Pleasant Friend posted:I don't think there is a nation on earth that doesn't have its own issues with police brutality, however from what I understand, this moment is about Black Americans. Not even police brutality to other POC in America, its about Black America. thank you for your advice. to ensure i do not look like an rear end, can you clarify how long "this moment" will last for? i do not want to speak out of turn.
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