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hambeet posted:yeah, we are. hi asio
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hello *checks notes* busb
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Pleasant Friend posted:I didn't hear you saying ACAB when those four cops were flattened in Melbourne All cops are bad in their role as cops enforcing unjust laws and failing to stop and report violence from other cops. You may know an individual who is a cop, who is your friend, who is a decent person. It is the "copness" that is bad. Being a cop means participation in a corrupt and violent system where even those why are trying to do the right thing either get beaten down or run out. If a person who is a cop dies, I am sad. People who are cops don't deserve to be killed. A person who murders a cop should go to jail, importantly however so should a cop who murders a person. At the moment this runs one way only, with 400 Aboriginal deaths in custody and 0 prosecutions. The system of policing as it stands now needs to be dismantled and rebuilt.
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Even bastards don't deserve to be murdered by some junkie
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Sparticle posted:I would tell you how I really feel about those four good cops but I'm pretty sure ASIO is reading this thread. Would your true feelings be violating a SA rule that would get Lowtax into trouble? Cmon you can tell us.
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Pleasant Friend posted:Just because things are worse elsewhere doesn't mean African Americans don't deserve to have a moment with the world's attention on their problems. This is almost too egregious a breach of what this process is about to be real but then https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-52869502
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bell jar posted:Even bastards don't deserve to be murdered by some junkie agreed, just don't believe the first reports about someone the opposite side of the Authorities having suspect character.
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thatbastardken posted:the police are free to murder and injure anyone who criticizes them This is what I mean when I say "divorced from reality"
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I wish the forum cops would divorce this thread from reality.
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Quantum Shart posted:Good to see you understand Disco Elysium as much as ACAB then dipshit Disco Elysium does not take a simplistic view on anything, least of all the inherently complex issue of policing, law, justice and power. It does not bootlick, but nor does it throw out the other side of the same coin, which is ACAB. I would, in all sincerity, be genuinely curious how - if you truly believe ACAB - you square that with fiction that you admire and respect which presents cops as not bastards.
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freebooter posted:This is what I mean when I say "divorced from reality" It's literally loving true you dumb idiot
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Hmm yes the system that lets cops kill Aboriginal children on the streets and torture them in solitary confinement and strip search children at train stations is actually fair and balanced and cops have a good set of checks and balances - Freebootlicker
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SHALASHASKA HAWKE posted:kill whitey hey busb how are you enjoying your time in the YPG
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Definitely a good day to start defending the police.
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freebooter posted:This is what I mean when I say "divorced from reality" hmm, so when you say 'divorced from reality' you mean objectively correct? interesting choice of words.
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Whitlam posted:I don't really disagree with anything you're saying, I just think "do you think people are being literal when they say it?" is a weak gotcha, since for a lot of people (as far as I can tell), the answer is sincerely "yes". Or maybe it's the forums skewing reality again, since they lean way more left than general society, and maybe goons shouldn't be taken as generally representative of society. Yeah sorry, I don't know if I made this clear enough -- my arguments this past page or two have been mostly against polarising the arguments to an extent that benefits nobody. We're basically retreating to party lines and throwing javelins at each other And it makes it very difficult to talk about real, constructive solutions when the discussion is reduced to straw men - you first need to dismantle the straw men before you can do anything beyond dismissing the whole drat thing (Which is why I feel guilty about not having more patience and not working harder on developing a more palatable argument style, but.. for a while I honestly couldn't tell if the op was trolling or not)
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freebooter posted:Disco Elysium does not take a simplistic view on anything, least of all the inherently complex issue of policing, law, justice and power. It does not bootlick, but nor does it throw out the other side of the same coin, which is ACAB. computer games aren't real you dense motherfucker
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just imagine, that you, grown rear end non-cop adult, are verbally threatened by a 13 year old. you break the 13 year old's jaw. you're gonna get a nice stint in jail for that aren't you? why is a cop exempt from that?
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the cool posts kid posted:just imagine, that you, grown rear end non-cop adult, are verbally threatened by a 13 year old. you break the 13 year old's jaw. you're gonna get a nice stint in jail for that aren't you? why is a cop exempt from that? The cop felt his life was in danger
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the cool posts kid posted:just imagine, that you, grown rear end non-cop adult, are verbally threatened by a 13 year old. you break the 13 year old's jaw. you're gonna get a nice stint in jail for that aren't you? why is a cop exempt from that? acab, this has been covered.
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Aesculus posted:It's literally loving true you dumb idiot "The police are free to murder and injure anyone who criticises them." Yes, when a university lecturer talks about police abolition a SOG team crashes through the door. When a not-for-profit writes a press release denouncing police racism the entire staff get arrested. We live in North Korea, it loving sucks
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Sulla Faex posted:it makes it very difficult to talk about real, constructive solutions when the discussion is reduced to straw men Tell me about it
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To pre-empt some dumb “no, he should face consequences” the boss cop of the State has come out and said he had a bad day and shouldn’t lose his job or be charged. Where the gently caress are all the supposed good cops coming out losing their poo poo at how bad that makes them look and how hard it makes their job?
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freebooter posted:"The police are free to murder and injure anyone who criticises them." Yes, when a university lecturer talks about police abolition a SOG team crashes through the door. When a not-for-profit writes a press release denouncing police racism the entire staff get arrested. We live in North Korea, it loving sucks Of if, say, the AFP raided the ABC.
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The constructive solutions are about as close to happening as they ever are.
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Tommu posted:The cop felt his life was in danger I don't know if this is a serious post or a sarcasm post. But why do cops get that benefit when regular people do not?
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Gridlocked posted:You know I am still yet to receive what should have been my mandatory psych call regarding my work in Townsville last year for the floods. You are/were in the SES right? I don't remember seeing anyone identified as being in the SES on that site either so maybe the SES has been forgotten  Pleasant Friend posted:I don't think there is a nation on earth that doesn't have its own issues with police brutality, however from what I understand, this moment is about Black Americans. Not even police brutality to other POC in America, its about Black America. Are many Black Americans going to notice what is going on in Australia right now and be offended? I assume most Americans aren't going to notice what is going on in Australia at the best of times, and I think their news cycle is dominated by some other things right now. Is anyone who is the target of the protests in the US - the people who need to make changes - going to be distracted by protests in Australia, and as a result fail to stop being racist when they otherwise would have gotten the message and fixed the system? I assume that protests in Australia will only be noticed locally (if at all, unfortunately) and there's probably no-one in Australia that needs to be instead focusing on what is happening in the US. Someone posted a news article about how protests about deaths in custody in Australia tend to not really be noticed by anyone, so it seems to me like a good time to try and grab a bit of the spotlight.
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:Of if, say, the AFP raided the ABC. That occurred because a Defence whistleblower exposed war crimes in Afghanistan, and the leaking of certain documents was illegal, which it obviously shouldn't be. But which law enforcement agency do you think is investigating those same war crimes? Are those detectives bastards too?
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hooman posted:I don't know if this is a serious post or a sarcasm post. Hello. This was a sarcastic response.
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hooman posted:I don't know if this is a serious post or a sarcasm post. Because they're cops
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freebooter posted:But which law enforcement agency do you think is investigating those same war crimes? Are those detectives bastards too?
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freebooter posted:That occurred because a Defence whistleblower exposed war crimes in Afghanistan, and the leaking of certain documents was illegal, which it obviously shouldn't be. But which law enforcement agency do you think is investigating those same war crimes? Are those detectives bastards too? Nobody. Yes.
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haha no gently caress you posted:me, and yes stay out of pyf this time for all our sakes
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bell jar posted:stay out of pyf this time for all our sakes
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see what happens when i run out of weed!
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Lamps was an obnoxious arsehole and I have no idea why you defended him.
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btw i'm alerting you all to the situation, because i respect roughly 50% of you, and would prefer that you be aware of the bizarre smear campaign against me that some pyf posters have been bungling around with for several weeks now. it is totally ridiculous to me that i have to make this post, believe me. but strange things are known to happen on the internet.
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thatbastardken posted:good luck? it had better be loving over, i tell you what
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haha no gently caress you posted:btw i'm alerting you all to the situation, because i respect roughly 50% of you, and would prefer that you be aware of the bizarre smear campaign against me that some pyf posters have been bungling around with for several weeks now. it is totally ridiculous to me that i have to make this post, believe me. but strange things are known to happen on the internet. i can't believe the mods are allowing this, these pyf creeps have gone too far this time
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