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great lore video on Throt the Unclean for anyone worrying he wouldn't be cool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXQwx1EolD8
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I think given his starting position Throt could easily wait til game 3, and well Thanquol isn't coming in this game and he's the big draw of Skaven. Also while Skaven don't have their full roster, they don't really have obvious holes for it to fill. It's obvious which races really need help, namely Wood Elves, Beastmen, and to a lesser degree Brets. Welves and beastmen's campaigns are just broken in game 2, welves have a complete roster but feel super one dimensional, and so do beastmen but at least there are units they can bring in. As well Brets are kinda stale roster wise. Though sadly since welves and beastmen are dlc I don't know how they will justify making dlc for them.
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Eimi posted:I think given his starting position Throt could easily wait til game 3, and well Thanquol isn't coming in this game and he's the big draw of Skaven. Also while Skaven don't have their full roster, they don't really have obvious holes for it to fill. It's obvious which races really need help, namely Wood Elves, Beastmen, and to a lesser degree Brets. Welves and beastmen's campaigns are just broken in game 2, welves have a complete roster but feel super one dimensional, and so do beastmen but at least there are units they can bring in. As well Brets are kinda stale roster wise. Though sadly since welves and beastmen are dlc I don't know how they will justify making dlc for them. Do them as FLC in different start positions?
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Onmi posted:This is why I appreciate using Mixu's mod to make the LL's for the Elector counts, as it gives me way more of a reason to actually engage with the elector count system and not just conquer the empire's lands. Knowing you've got LLs waiting for you, including a Death Wizard, it's like... "Yeah, I actually gotta do this properly." I also love sending a hero to Lustria ASAP to reveal Markus and try to confederate him. You don't need mods to get special LL's nowadays? If you win over an elector count you get a special elector count LL with a unique weapon right?
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Eimi posted:I think given his starting position Throt could easily wait til game 3, and well Thanquol isn't coming in this game and he's the big draw of Skaven. Also while Skaven don't have their full roster, they don't really have obvious holes for it to fill. It's obvious which races really need help, namely Wood Elves, Beastmen, and to a lesser degree Brets. Welves and beastmen's campaigns are just broken in game 2, welves have a complete roster but feel super one dimensional, and so do beastmen but at least there are units they can bring in. As well Brets are kinda stale roster wise. Though sadly since welves and beastmen are dlc I don't know how they will justify making dlc for them. yeah but neither of them are game 2 factions, and ideally all the base game 2 factions would have 6 lords each. skaven are also missing most of their monster type units.
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juggalo baby coffin posted:lizardmen and elves have more guys than them and the rats are the best No more lizards or elves too, agreed
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Jun 6, 2020 08:44
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The beastmen are lacking the most fun units imo. The big stuff that'd be fun to see on the battlefield      
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Jun 6, 2020 08:47
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Bull centaurs belong to the chaos dwarfs 
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Jun 6, 2020 08:48
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Sorry, the chaos dwarves got krumped by Grimgor
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Jun 6, 2020 08:50
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Sorry bud but most of that is aos and sucks rear end Even the bull centaurs suck rear end compared to the proper ones.
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Fartbox posted:You don't need mods to get special LL's nowadays? If you win over an elector count you get a special elector count LL with a unique weapon right? No, you can put anyone in the elector seat. Only Boris is 'Special' because of his unique model. So there's nothing to stop you from forcefully conquering a province and then putting a lord there to get them the Runefang. The only thing you lose is an authority penalty... which doesn't matter if you've taken over everything by force. Basically, the difference in base of conquering Averland and throwing any lord into the Elector Count of Averland seat, or confederating Averland and putting Marius Leitdorf (or the lord named that) in the spot, is completely the same.
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What's my early game gameplan as dragonboy? Conventional spear/archers army with dragon support?
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I did lions and dragons because it was more fun. The lions seem pretty good? Fast as heck and deal armor piercing and pretty drat cheap. Combine them with some chaff and you get a tarpit that actually deals damage
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Why is the fantasy rpg so much better than the rest of any ham lore? The Chaos gods are still pretty drat lame poo poo in it tho. Because chaos has to be evil enough to justify making tons of random mutation tables but actually giving reasons for why they're that way or, idk, just not making them ALWAYS EVIL would require nuance, which is apparently only for the people who worship them. This is literally the ONE thing 40k does better. And I love fantasy more.
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Do you mean axemen cosplaying as lions or actual lions?
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ZigZag posted:Sorry bud but most of that is aos and sucks rear end The tzaangors are literally the only AoS thing, and they actually came out for 40k and just got added to AoS later. Even the one with the AoS logo was released during fantasy.
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If they do add Moulder in game 2, which I doubt, where would they go on the Vortex map? Because keeping them where they are would suck.
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The Lone Badger posted:Do you mean axemen cosplaying as lions or actual lions? The actual lions. They seem to be able to inflict a lot more damage than regular animal herds in other armies. Combine them with basic infantry and Imrik and you will do well
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Jun 6, 2020 12:07
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Fartbox posted:The actual lions. They seem to be able to inflict a lot more damage than regular animal herds in other armies. Combine them with basic infantry and Imrik and you will do well They're damage dealers. They're also cheap you can sit them in front of archers and frontal charge them. They've got strong charge and they keep fighting.
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I like them as a unit, but their attack animations are pretty lovely. I don't know, I've been using them a bunch since they've came out, and nothing they do looks like a lion attack. They punch people, instead of pouncing and it looks terrible.
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Jun 6, 2020 12:23
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Babylon Astronaut posted:I like them as a unit, but their attack animations are pretty lovely. I don't know, I've been using them a bunch since they've came out, and nothing they do looks like a lion attack. They punch people, instead of pouncing and it looks terrible. me with my magnifying glass: "Ugh, ridiculous. Completely absurd" very high elf player energy all told.
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Jun 6, 2020 12:55
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Black Sheep is a good movie about beastmen.
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Lion chariots and the skycutter are two things that just look better in static models. A cat hooked up in a harness is not going to be able to fight like a cat! And the skycutter would look completely stupid doing the "hovering" thing that TWW flyers can do instead of zipping around constantly.
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On the other hand the Rogue Idol animations are fantastic. Probably the best animated model in the game.
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I just had something really weird happen on an Empire VH ME campaign. I was besieged by Mannefred and like 3 other vamp armies, fought a battle, killed all of them and then right away, that same turn, all the vamp lords are standing a little ways away from the besieged city, with some units and half health. What is going on here? Is this normal?
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Giggle Goose posted:I just had something really weird happen on an Empire VH ME campaign. I was besieged by Mannefred and like 3 other vamp armies, fought a battle, killed all of them and then right away, that same turn, all the vamp lords are standing a little ways away from the besieged city, with some units and half health. What is going on here? Is this normal? The after-battle animation will have all them run away from a lost siege with whatever units are left. This happens at the same time you get any after-battle rewards. They will replace the lords with generic lords or new lords for any ones you killed, but they don't just disappear unless you murder them entirely or they were in march stance and can't retreat. You most likely just skipped the animations which is easy because any mouse or key press will skip all of it.
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Jun 6, 2020 14:01
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JBP posted:Black Sheep is a good movie about beastmen. The New Zealand zombie sheep movie? Yeah that sounds about right for beastmen.
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Fartbox posted:The beastmen are lacking the most fun units imo. The big stuff that'd be fun to see on the battlefield What on earth are these things? Looks like they came out of 40k. Broken Cog fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Jun 6, 2020 |
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Jun 6, 2020 14:37
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Broken Cog posted:What on earth are these things? Looks like the came out of 40k. They literally did. They're tzaangors. Specifically they're elite ones on discs of Tzeentch which is Tzeentch's unique daemon mount. There are also pestigors and khorgors from 6th ed. They never made slaangors but those are supposed to be a thing too. They all got discontinued in 7th beastmen and then the Tzaangors came back in Thousand Sons and later AoS. I prefer the older Disc of Tzeentch that looks less technological. 
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Jun 6, 2020 14:40
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I really like all the other chaos gods’ units way more than Khorne’s or the generic Chaos stuff this game has.
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I have always been a big fan of Juggernauts which are Khorne's mounts especially with them being the second heaviest cavalry in the game.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:If they do add Moulder in game 2, which I doubt, where would they go on the Vortex map? Because keeping them where they are would suck. There's already a major Skaven clan in Naggaroth, one in Lustria, one in Araby and another one in the Southlands. There's only the Donut left.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:If they do add Moulder in game 2, which I doubt, where would they go on the Vortex map? Because keeping them where they are would suck. If I had to guess maybe the empty mountains north of Morathi? I do think Moulder is still coming, probably as FLC. Stormfiends might not make it until game 3 (which would be tragic) but giant rats as a warhounds unit and packmasters as a melee whip hero that buffs monstrous units seem both incredibly obvious and relatively simple to add.
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Ethiser posted:I really like all the other chaos gods’ units way more than Khorne’s or the generic Chaos stuff this game has. Khorne seems like he just has the weakest aesthetic. They're mostly interchangeable with generic chaos, but red. The only real distinctive thing is the berzerker bunny ears. Juggernauts being one of the few exceptions. That daemonic "living metal" look is cool.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Khorne seems like he just has the weakest aesthetic. They're mostly interchangeable with generic chaos, but red. The only real distinctive thing is the berzerker bunny ears. Tzeetch technically has my favourite aesthetic but they lack the variety and, honestly, personality of Nurgle's units.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Khorne seems like he just has the weakest aesthetic. They're mostly interchangeable with generic chaos, but red. The only real distinctive thing is the berzerker bunny ears. Mostly I think this is because generic chaos is largely Khornate. Khorne is probably the "easiest" Chaos God for a warrior to follow as it is.
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I would be surprised if we got another skaven or DE dlc as the next one. Every game 2 faction has gotten 2 dlc lords. Lizardmen and HE have gotten 2 flc lords to skaven and DEs’ one.
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yikes! posted:I would be surprised if we got another skaven or DE dlc as the next one. Every game 2 faction has gotten 2 dlc lords. Lizardmen and HE have gotten 2 flc lords to skaven and DEs’ one. Yeah, it seems more likely we get a Skaven and DE Free Lords alongside other stuff.
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Kobal2 posted:There's already a major Skaven clan in Naggaroth, one in Lustria, one in Araby and another one in the Southlands.  Scrub-Niggurath posted:If I had to guess maybe the empty mountains north of Morathi?
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Is there any info about armies to the east of where the ogres are? Like if they put in armies/lords for Cathay or whatever, would they just be making it up whole cloth?
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