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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Almost as good as https://brrr.money/

Actually honestly you can just put the music on and look at the twitter page :v:

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Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

the slight up-and-down caused by some combination of the large amount of activity and twitter's accurate-eventually system gives it a real exciting feel. get the guy who does commentary on jelle's marble runs to have a go at this. can 14,547,7xx come back from this? it's not looking good! a surprise sudden appearance of 14,547,63x clinches it

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
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Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Jun 7, 2020

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
https://twitter.com/theleftyleftie/status/1269370053516038150?s=20

bionic vapour boy
Feb 13, 2012

Impervious to fun.
I really try to take TERFs at their word sometimes because I don't know, maybe some of them are just ignorant and fell in with the wrong people, and as a trans man I'm relatively safe to debate them

but I really cannot wrap my head around the idea of sex-based oppression, that is to say, that misogyny is actually like a material consequence of menstruation, pregnancy, other womb things. Even if we don't follow it to its logical conclusion, that having babies is an expression of womanhood (feministly!), is it not letting the patriarchy set the terms of womanhood?

Chatrapati
Nov 6, 2012
The only people I know in real life who could be called terfs are three 60+ year-old lesbians I know, all of whom would call themselves very left-wing and have taken serious measures to battle sexism in their lifetimes. It's a weird thing and I don't feel like I can talk about it comfortably as a cis guy.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Chatrapati posted:

The only people I know in real life who could be called terfs are three 60+ year-old lesbians I know, all of whom would call themselves very left-wing and have taken serious measures to battle sexism in their lifetimes. It's a weird thing and I don't feel like I can talk about it comfortably as a cis guy.

Watch heaps of trans porn, and tweet about how wrong it is during your post orgasm come down like Glinner and Rowling do

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

I really hope sometime in the future pratchett gets a resurgence cos yeah, his stuff is genuinely far more communicative and ahead of its time than most any other comparable works I can think of.

I've seen a *lot* of people quoting Night Watch the last couple of days, and even if the overall story is pretty disheartening (Vimes doesn't actually change the world, Keel and the others are still dead at the end and Snapcase is every bit as much of a bastard as Winder), the underlying point that his direct action protected the people there and then, and the general Watch theme that the police are supposed to be protectors not enforcers, are at least a useful treatment for Centrist Brain.

What happened to that cyberpunk-y reboot series of Night Watch, anyway?

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I've seen a *lot* of people quoting Night Watch the last couple of days, and even if the overall story is pretty disheartening (Vimes doesn't actually change the world, Keel and the others are still dead at the end and Snapcase is every bit as much of a bastard as Winder), the underlying point that his direct action protected the people there and then, and the general Watch theme that the police are supposed to be protectors not enforcers, are at least a useful treatment for Centrist Brain.

What happened to that cyberpunk-y reboot series of Night Watch, anyway?

Delayed by the COVID, and I hope it doesn't resurface. They completely cut Rhianna out of the production process.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



In fairness if magic was real it would absolutely be used frivolously and, moreover, I long for the day teleportation technology is good enough to simply extract my pee pee and doo doo from inside me (and place it 1 foot above JKR's hesd)

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

ok this constant media push for "air corridors" has made me realise that the only reason its going to work is if the holiday destination "ie all of benidorm" is quarantined from the local population, just letting disease brits run around the place boozing up and sharing bodily fluids

it will be bartenders and waiting staff in full PPE too

MonkeyLibFront
Feb 26, 2003
Where's the cake?

Jel Shaker posted:

ok this constant media push for "air corridors" has made me realise that the only reason its going to work is if the holiday destination "ie all of benidorm" is quarantined from the local population, just letting disease brits run around the place boozing up and sharing bodily fluids

it will be bartenders and waiting staff in full PPE too

Problem you'll have is people just don't care anymore, they see no mainstream condemnation of protests or beach goers and they'll think to themselves if they can do it, I can. Add to that with Cummings not giving a toss how it looks you've got a recipe for whatever will happen in the next few months, guarantee you that the continent will have good weather and the UK will piss it down.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Not for the first time, I've managed to injure my foot through the simple act of being asleep in bed.
No idea what I've done, but it looks like I'll be hobbling around the house all day. Happy Sunday, people.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Ms Adequate posted:

In fairness if magic was real it would absolutely be used frivolously

I wonder, surely there's a genre of fiction/erotica where all the wizards and witches are kinky. I dread to think what could happen in a world where magic and BDSM intersect.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

kingturnip posted:

Not for the first time, I've managed to injure my foot through the simple act of being asleep in bed.
No idea what I've done, but it looks like I'll be hobbling around the house all day. Happy Sunday, people.

Ooooooh is that the thing where your big toe decides to leave your foot, but only gets so far away from the other toes before realising it's still attached?

That's a classic, that is

Blasmeister
Jan 15, 2012




2Time TRP Sack Race Champion

kingturnip posted:

Not for the first time, I've managed to injure my foot through the simple act of being asleep in bed.
No idea what I've done, but it looks like I'll be hobbling around the house all day. Happy Sunday, people.

I’ve done similar with over-clenching my Achilles while sleeping before, really messes up your day

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

I wonder, surely there's a genre of fiction/erotica where all the wizards and witches are kinky. I dread to think what could happen in a world where magic and BDSM intersect.

The average time between a group of people starting an Internet discussion on fantasy and someone kramering in to go 'no, Kushiel's Dart is actually really good' is shorter than you might think.

It is not good.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
drat mexicans know how to protest

https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1269048858304303104?s=20

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lisa nandy on marr just now saying she doesn't know if trump is racist

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

I dread to think what could happen in a world where magic and BDSM intersect.

How had Kink.com not claimed this goldmine yet.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/KeejayOV2/status/1269554330090250240?s=19

Ash Crimson
Apr 4, 2010

Mancock's eyes are dead.

There's nothing there, nothing behind them to suggest he was ever a human...

No humanity

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
ah yes this will definitely help

https://twitter.com/jules_birch/status/1269530183524106240?s=20

Renfield
Feb 29, 2008

kingturnip posted:

Not for the first time, I've managed to injure my foot through the simple act of being asleep in bed.
No idea what I've done, but it looks like I'll be hobbling around the house all day. Happy Sunday, people.

This used to happen to me on a semi-regular basis - felt like I'd kicked the wall in my sleep or something.

Turns out I've got gout and was having (minor) flair-ups due to diet and stress !

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

When I was at uni, British RC women students who were having 'illicit' sex with men to whom they weren't married didn't take the pill because it was against the pope (so what was having sex while unmarried?) would end up having abortions (also against the pope which leads one to 'what is the greater sin in the eyes of the church'?). Meanwhile, RC women students from Ireland were on the pill (if they could get hold of it) 'to keep their rhythm regular'. It was quite bizarre.

(This was very many moons ago and a time when women who had live-in boyfriends would clear all signs of their existence in the event of a parental visit, and in the sixth form we used to have many discussions on whether you should have sex without being married - all seems so odd now!)
I think the HIV epidemic was the thing that well and truly buried the RC Chruch on this. Bishops saying "well they wouldn't need condoms if they didn't have sex before marriage or commit sodomy or adultery" and public health experts saying "well they obviously are, aren't they, so maybe we should provide condoms just in case" leading to a spate of leaders (especially Anglicans) issuing statements in the 90s and early 00s running the gamut from "it has never been our position to condemn, um, prophylaxis if one is participating in, uh, risky activities" right up to recommending condom holders as confirmation gifts and Desmond Tutu flying to Dublin to say that the Pope's stance on condoms is morally equivalent to the murder of Black people given actual reality.

bionic vapour boy posted:

I really try to take TERFs at their word sometimes because I don't know, maybe some of them are just ignorant and fell in with the wrong people, and as a trans man I'm relatively safe to debate them

but I really cannot wrap my head around the idea of sex-based oppression, that is to say, that misogyny is actually like a material consequence of menstruation, pregnancy, other womb things. Even if we don't follow it to its logical conclusion, that having babies is an expression of womanhood (feministly!), is it not letting the patriarchy set the terms of womanhood?
There definitely are material oppressions around the reality of menstruation (from period poverty, to many cis guys being ridiculously uneducated, to people who want to suppress their cycle for health reasons being shamed) and pregnancy (pro-lifers, harassment, the massive health burden of some pregnancies).

This is something that intersects with gender (the belittlement of femininity) and race (racial wealth disparity) and therefore poverty (infant mortality and death during childbirth tracks poverty) so it shouldn't be ignored, but you're right that it shouldn't be allowed to set the terms of womanhood either.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Isomermaid posted:

There was a house for the people that sneered at other people for perceived notions of non purity in the blood in that children's book and it wasn't the good house. Whoever wrote that book I wonder

Founder of UKMT: "okay, so we all know there are four types of bluetick. brave, smart, evil and miscellaneous.

UKMT board: "yes, continue."

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


A big flaming stink posted:

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1269407862234775552

she's trying to post through it

"if you were discriminated against"

what the gently caress

That second tweet makes no sense to me. Does she think that recognising trans women means that 'women' ceases to exist as a category?

jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost
Ok I'mma repeat this link just in case

:siren: PSA re: situation in USA: see this thread if you want to donate to some good causes, also you'll get a cool gang tag if that's your thing

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Jedit posted:

Delayed by the COVID, and I hope it doesn't resurface. They completely cut Rhianna out of the production process.
That isn't a good sign - I'll still watch it mind.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

bessantj posted:

That second tweet makes no sense to me. Does she think that recognising trans women means that 'women' ceases to exist as a category?

She's been exposed as a massive transphobe, can't defend her initial argument so she's pivoted to the strawman that trans people don't believe in biological sex and are attempting to erase the concept of men and women.

Which is quite obvious bollocks since if "men" and "women" didn't exist as concepts you could hardly have trans-men and trans-women, could you?

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib
Have I missed the meeting where it was decided to increase the number of war contemplation days? As well as armistice day we have to be respectful and solemn on the anniversary of every battle that made it to DVD.
I think we need more public guidance so that we can plan respectful riots. Protests are OK on Bridge Too Far day, as long as you don't cross moving water. That sort of thing.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Endjinneer posted:

Have I missed the meeting where it was decided to increase the number of war contemplation days? As well as armistice day we have to be respectful and solemn on the anniversary of every battle that made it to DVD.
I think we need more public guidance so that we can plan respectful riots. Protests are OK on Bridge Too Far day, as long as you don't cross moving water. That sort of thing.

Only fascists don't want you to cross moving water on Bridge Too Far Day.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

bessantj posted:

That second tweet makes no sense to me. Does she think that recognising trans women means that 'women' ceases to exist as a category?

it ceases to mean exactly what terfs want it to mean, and so becomes useless as a term in their eyes.

terf: It is very important to consider discrimination against women (quiet voice: which i mean to be people born with vaginas and only people born with vaginas)
trans people: wow defining women like that really ties in to a lot of hateful attitudes, we have a more complex understanding of what a "woman" is which is based on-
terf: I AM BEING CALLED A BIGOT FOR TALKING ABOUT WOMEN. THEY WANT TO STOP WOMEN EXISTING.
spectator columnist who only kramered in three seconds ago: wow these crazy trans people

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Flipswitch posted:

That isn't a good sign - I'll still watch it mind.

the casting for it has been not good

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Jose posted:

lisa nandy on marr just now saying she doesn't know if trump is racist

wow thats the worst possible answer

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Communist Thoughts posted:

wow thats the worst possible answer

exact wording here

https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1269552370415022089?s=20

lol i just learned she's one of the numerous politicians wiht a marxist parent who is a big letdown

Jose fucked around with this message at 11:46 on Jun 7, 2020

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


jabby posted:

She's been exposed as a massive transphobe, can't defend her initial argument so she's pivoted to the strawman that trans people don't believe in biological sex and are attempting to erase the concept of men and women.

Which is quite obvious bollocks since if "men" and "women" didn't exist as concepts you could hardly have trans-men and trans-women, could you?

Angepain posted:

it ceases to mean exactly what terfs want it to mean, and so becomes useless as a term in their eyes.

terf: It is very important to consider discrimination against women (quiet voice: which i mean to be people born with vaginas and only people born with vaginas)
trans people: wow defining women like that really ties in to a lot of hateful attitudes, we have a more complex understanding of what a "woman" is which is based on-
terf: I AM BEING CALLED A BIGOT FOR TALKING ABOUT WOMEN. THEY WANT TO STOP WOMEN EXISTING.
spectator columnist who only kramered in three seconds ago: wow these crazy trans people

It's the dumbest poo poo.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Jose posted:

exact wording here

https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1269552370415022089?s=20

lol i just learned she's one of the numerous politicians wiht a marxist parent who is a big letdown

So she's basically saying she thinks the racist rhetoric was an act to get elected?

Surely if someone cares so little about throwing non-white people under the bus to gain power that in itself is racist as gently caress.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

bessantj posted:

It's the dumbest poo poo.
TERFs: they are trying to erase women as a group by saying 'people who menstruate' words exist for a reason and those biologically accurate words must be used
Also TERFs: don't call me cis this is misogyny

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jabby
Oct 27, 2010

stev posted:

So she's basically saying she thinks the racist rhetoric was an act to get elected?

Surely if someone cares so little about throwing non-white people under the bus to gain power that in itself is racist as gently caress.

She probably thinks it's not racist because she wouldn't hesitate to throw while people under a bus either if that's what the electorate wanted.

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