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endlessmonotony posted:You're misinterpreting the data. yeah we do. short to midterm immunity has been shown monkeys and there's also this: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/t-cells-found-covid-19-patients-bode-well-long-term-immunity which is good because you stop making antibodies after a few years what isn't known is the long term duration. but that's less important after a vaccine is developed
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I can take a little bit of happiness from symbolic gestures. https://twitter.com/AliceAvizandum/status/1269644825617408007 
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Jun 7, 2020 16:14
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bow tie wearing history majors shed a tear for a slaver
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Jun 7, 2020 16:15
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Next up: Cecil Rhodes.
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prefect posted:I can take a little bit of happiness from symbolic gestures. for context, this was a status of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol
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I know history happens when it happens and the current protests are well overdue, but I can't stop thinking about how large and dense those crowds are and how few of them have masks on. Doesn't seem good.
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multijoe posted:I know history happens when it happens and the current protests are well overdue, but I can't stop thinking about how large and dense those crowds are and how few of them have masks on. domcum is getting his herd immunity strategy!!
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multijoe posted:I know history happens when it happens and the current protests are well overdue, but I can't stop thinking about how large and dense those crowds are and how few of them have masks on. yeah its gonna be bad, unless we get lucky and roni doesnt work outdoors then a lot of good people are gonna get roni and pass it on to an unholy shitload more people, particularly the BAME community who are already suffering the effects worse than others because of our racist state it also gives the tories a completely obvious way to avoid blame for any second wave/contiuation of the first wave since the plague is falling along culture war lines. they just blame it on hypocritical lefties and dangerous PoCs its pretty safe since BAME voters dont really have anywhere to go anymore after labour threw Abbot and Butler under a bus shits gonna get real bad in the UK, things are coming to a head, and the path of least resistance is to fascism
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prefect posted:I can take a little bit of happiness from symbolic gestures. I've already seen this event unironically compared to ISIS' destruction of historical monuments, so the comments everywhere should be fun for a while.
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do y'all still have a little slavery or is that just us looking forward to when this happens to actual living slavemongers
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Doc Hawkins posted:do y'all still have a little slavery or is that just us also the local tory MP's family runs an ice cream business that got done for modern slavery last year, but the owner got off because he was very old.
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There was never a huge amount of actual slavery in the UK itself. We just profited massively from all the slavery overseas. The part of the triangular trade that touched home was the goods in goods out part, so all the death and suffering was comfortably at arms length. e: a lot of the people who profited are the ancestors of the people who currently run the country.
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Bristol march was good and achieved a symbolic but tangible victory so quit whining.
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Doc Hawkins posted:do y'all still have a little slavery or is that just us Slavery in the UK was complex. It was slowly stamped out after the Norman Conquest in England to a point where by 1200 there was no slavery in the British isles. But there's huge caveats on this like do you consider serfdom a form of slavery, and even still there's the case of coal miners in Scotland. In 1606 there was a law passed, the Act of Anent Coalyers and Salters, that bound miners to their "master". The 2 Acts of Parliament that replaced it explicitly said "many colliers and salters are in a state of slavery and bondage". The first allowed the miners to buy their freedom, the 2nd 14 years later in 1799 just freed them all. In English law there were 2 cases, the Cartwright case in 1569 & Somersett's case in 1772 which declared there was no basis for slavery in common law. But what'd just happen is that shiteheads from the colonies would take their slaves back to Britain & just make them sign declarations that they were actually indentured servants which is such a ridiculously British thing. Because it allows people to kid on that while we profited hugely from the slave trade at least we didn't allow slavery here, as if that was somehow in anyway acceptable. The 3 big west coast cities, Bristol, Liverpool & Glasgow, are all built off the back of the slave trade. If you walk through Glasgow city centre you come north across the bridge & you're onto Jamaica Street. The Gallery of Modern Art is at the end of Ingram Street, named after a guy involved in the import of tobacco. He imported the tobacco from the plantation of his brother-in-law, who Glassford Street is named after. The GoMA is the former mansion of William Cunninghame, who made rakes of money buying up tobacco in the run up to the War of American Independence, having read the room & decided that rebellion was likely. After the rebellion he was able to sell it at inflated prices. Buchanan Street is named after another of the Tobacco Lords & is the busiest shopping street in Scotland. The Tobacco Lords liked lending credit to American farmers and then when the harvest came in basically robbing them blind by forcing to accept low prices. So they weren't just lovely to the slaves, at least 2 Founding Fathers had the pleasure of being robbed by them, Washington & Jefferson. loving great country. Unsurprisingly not part of Scottish or British history they taught when I was in school.
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it's a shame, covid is really hitting shops hard, especially on the edge of the shopping district. Whiteladies Road is mostly doing OK, but up on the top end at Blackboy Hill it's going to be wrecked. I don't know if those retailers are going to survive.
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90s Cringe Rock posted:it's a shame, covid is really hitting shops hard, especially on the edge of the shopping district. Whiteladies Road is mostly doing OK, but up on the top end at Blackboy Hill it's going to be wrecked. I don't know if those retailers are going to survive. oh my god they're real places
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90s Cringe Rock posted:it's a shame, covid is really hitting shops hard, especially on the edge of the shopping district. Whiteladies Road is mostly doing OK, but up on the top end at Blackboy Hill it's going to be wrecked. I don't know if those retailers are going to survive. By the end of this even the core places are going to get wrecked. On the one hand it's a great opportunity to discuss what we should actually be doing with our city centres and high streets but on the other it'll just increase the sense of decay and desperation in the population in every place it fails.
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https://twitter.com/LukasMukasPukas/status/1269726763623624704?s=20
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Jun 7, 2020 21:27
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Ah, yes... A graffiti-ed communist symbol is definitely murderous, whereas 3 police murders is just a pretty decent innings all round, nothing can be done about it, really, stop fussing.
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Jun 7, 2020 21:49
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thinking about that cop who went tripping the traffic-light fantastic did you know the rolling stones song “wild horses” has a section w a I-iii-I-ii chord progression??
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it's not three killings, it's three shootings other methods of killing, such as the traditional "beat them to death" so favored by British cops, are not included in the number
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i say swears online posted:oh my god they're real places But the latest big retail development in the centre of town being called the Merchant Quarter didn't go down well and they had to change it.
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Jun 7, 2020 22:19
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Reminder that the single biggest expenditure in British history was the compensation paid to slaveowners when slavery was abolished It was still being paid off up until 2015
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robert peel invented his principles of policing to more effectively occupy ireland not trying to britsplain, just thought maybe there are other foreigners reading this thread who did not know that
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MikeCrotch posted:Reminder that the single biggest expenditure in British history was the compensation paid to slaveowners when slavery was abolished this i did not know why were people not screaming about this every day for our entire lives you had a slaver's pension
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You can find out who your local slave fund beneficiaries are here... https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/maps/britain/ It's also important to realise they got paid money for the slaves they owned but the slaves of course got nothing.
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Doc Hawkins posted:robert peel invented his principles of policing to more effectively occupy ireland the usa really is a rank amateur at inventing horrible poo poo to do from its position of power
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looks like someone had a good Peel Session
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Also worth noting that we first banned the slave trade, not slavery, and then used that as an excuse to raid everyone else's shipping (it was the Napoleonic Wars at the time). Unlike the Spanish and Portuguese we had self-sustaining slave populations (through births) so ending the trade didn't actually reduce slavery in the colonies much at all. In the thirty-five years between banning the trade and actual slavery we absolutely loving coined it.
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redleader posted:the usa really is a rank amateur at inventing horrible poo poo to do from its position of power The law raised the minimal employment age to ten.____________
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it's amazing how despite neither knowing or caring about their past crimes against humanity, the uk is always fuckin' pumped to do more of the same.
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Doc Hawkins posted:do y'all still have a little slavery or is that just us Government website promoting farm jobs recently included a disclaimer denying any responsibility and liability if you take one of the jobs and end up enslaved. Take that how you will
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I'm glad there is a statue to the good Clarkson. He's the one people should associate (as well as others) with anti-slavery movement, not Wilberforce.
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Samovar posted:I'm glad there is a statue to the good Clarkson. He's the one people should associate (as well as others) with anti-slavery movement, not Wilberforce. It's quite an impressive sight. There is a Wilberforce Road in Wisbech, quite close to where I live, but that's it.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it's amazing how despite neither knowing or caring about their past crimes against humanity, the uk is always fuckin' pumped to do more of the same. how is this surprising for a nation that wants to make "grenfell" into a verb
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https://twitter.com/Staedtler/status/1271007519175999488 brexit flowcharts are back! nature is healing
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poty posted:https://twitter.com/Staedtler/status/1271007519175999488 did any of those predict anything like what's happened like not the pandemic obviously, but in strict brexit terms also that chap seems uh optimistic
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poty posted:https://twitter.com/Staedtler/status/1271007519175999488 he's already possibly facing a tory rebellion over just how badly he's handled coronavirus. they'll absolutely allow him to take the blame for no deal brexit first though
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