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ToxicAcne posted:I feel like the 1/16th Cherokee thing is more of a legitimacy/ connection to the country thing. It's a tacit admission that you are not one of the original inhabitants of this land and so you have to claim some ancestry from those who are. I read somewhere that the Cherokee thing in particular was common among Southern aristocrats. My favourite fact is Robert E Lee was for sure a direct ancestor of Pocahontas
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 01:45 |
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sbaldrick posted:My favourite fact is Robert E Lee was for sure a direct ancestor of Pocahontas Do you mean descendant? Last time I checked he wasn't a proven time traveler.
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 01:58 |
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Leviathan Song posted:Do you mean descendant? Last time I checked he wasn't a proven time traveler. It's in the same vein that JK Rowling wrote Voldemort as the "last living ancestor" of Salazar Slytherin. Because Rowling understands genealogy as much as she does maths or LGBT issues.
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 02:03 |
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sbaldrick posted:My favourite fact is Robert E Lee was for sure a direct ancestor of Pocahontas Was he? I knew his wife was, but I didn't know he was.
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 02:56 |
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Epicurius posted:Was he? I knew his wife was, but I didn't know he was.
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 05:13 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I'm pretty sure siblings have the same ancestors.
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 05:25 |
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:American police spend enormous portions of their budget on procuring military hardware. They're usually one time capital expenditures so they'd presumably not make up as big a chunk of the budget. One factor of budget bloat is just the sheer amount of officers and their overtime. Here's a different city's budget but of a similar amount and look at how much is spent only on overtime https://twitter.com/lauren_marietta/status/1269015790386372610 (There's some typos in how she compared the costs. #1 which isn't shown is the budget for schools) In more detail, here's a case example of the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office another city with a $400million+ budget for their police department https://www.coj.net/departments/finance/docs/budget/fy18-proposed-budget.aspx In that FY15-16 budget, you can see how much salaries and pensions make up the actual costs. ~75% of the budget is basically spent on cop salaries and retirement. Just on employees alone, there's about 3500 atm and even taking that older number and with the newer, larger staff number, that's and average of ~$53,000 per person. A decent amount but because of the large amount of employees, it starts to skyrocket fast.
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 09:49 |
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Wait a minute, so these protests serve mostly to pad police officers' bank accounts Goddamn these cops always win
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 13:30 |
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This is hilarious. My country spends on defense a little bit more than the Austin PD. We have a small but functional littoral navy, enough of an air force to police our own airspace and several very well equipped mechanized brigades with current gen tanks, APCs and SPGs. The same budget allows for a military intelligence agency, all the liasons with NATO and whatnot, a dozen UN peacekeeping missions, a really good aerial firefighting force we gladly send to help out our neighbours when in need and an aerobatics group. Plus the usual waste and corruption. A single city spending this much on policing is incredible.
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 14:02 |
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lol I looked up Austin and it has a smaller population than Brussels Although to be fair, unlike Brussels it doesn't have six different police departments.
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 14:27 |
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Phlegmish posted:lol I looked up Austin and it has a smaller population than Brussels One for Walloon crimes against Walloons One for German crimes against Walloons One for Flemish crimes against Flemings One for Walloon crimes against Flemings One for German crimes against Flemings
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 14:38 |
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No, they mostly refuse to speak anything other than French so that would be a significant improvement
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 14:49 |
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Phlegmish posted:No, they mostly refuse to speak anything other than French so that would be a significant improvement
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 16:59 |
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Phlegmish posted:lol I looked up Austin and it has a smaller population than Brussels Most American jurisdictions will have the city police, the sherrif's office with county wide jurisdiction and the state poloce with state wide jurisdiction (they mostly just do traffic stops on the high ways.) In addition Universities like the University of Texas in Austin will usually have a special police department with jurisdiciton just on that univiserities campus. This isn't getting into the fact that we also have park police, capitol police, taxi police (those are only in New York I think) Uber police (can't have the taxi police overextend themselves), railroad police, and gambling police (I used to work in a casino they just sit inside and play computer games all day while processing gambling licenses because casino security's so effective. Seems like a sweet gig tbh.)
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 17:25 |
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I lived in Southeast Washington in the early 90s, but only 6 blocks from the Capitol, so we had: * Metro PD; * US Park Police (they have jurisdiction in the DC area); * US Capitol Police (we were technically on the grounds of the Capitol); * FBI (federal district); * And if a bus went by, that was Metro Transit Police jurisdiction! So despite it being SE DC in the early 90s it was a pretty safe place to live.
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 17:50 |
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At the university I went to for my first failed semester, we had a safe ride program where kids could call up a free ride to their campus housing after drinking. The campus cops would follow said safe rides and bust the kids for either minor in possession or public intoxication. So people avoided using it in favour of drunk driving or stumbling home in the dark on roads full of drunks. Protect and Serve
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 18:37 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:At the university I went to for my first failed semester, we had a safe ride program where kids could call up a free ride to their campus housing after drinking. Golbez posted:I lived in Southeast Washington in the early 90s, but only 6 blocks from the Capitol, so we had:
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 19:01 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I'm pretty sure siblings have the same ancestors. Lee's wife was a Custis....Martha Washington's great granddaughter. Her mother was a Fitzhugh...the daughter of William Fitzhugh. She was also related to the Randolphs and the Carters. Lee's mother was a Carter, but Lee and his wife weren't siblings...third cousins once removed, maybe? But her descent from Pocahontas came through the Randolphs, not the Carters, who as far as I know weren't descended from her.
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Epicurius posted:Lee's wife was a Custis....Martha Washington's great granddaughter. Her mother was a Fitzhugh...the daughter of William Fitzhugh. She was also related to the Randolphs and the Carters. Lee's mother was a Carter, but Lee and his wife weren't siblings...third cousins once removed, maybe? But her descent from Pocahontas came through the Randolphs, not the Carters, who as far as I know weren't descended from her. it was a joke about how confederates are inbred traitors
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 20:23 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Cops are supposed to drive drunk kids home, not arrest them.
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 20:26 |
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Tree Goat posted:it was a joke about how confederates are inbred traitors Yes, I know. But it seemed off the point as to whether Lee was descended from Pocahontas.
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# ? Jun 8, 2020 21:21 |
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Phlegmish posted:lol I looked up Austin and it has a smaller population than Brussels I lived in a town of 25k people in the rural Midwest that had 5 different police agencies. I remember t-shirts mocking the situation for sale for the "City Drinking Squad, the city's 6th finest police agency". City police County Sheriff University police Tribal police State police
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# ? Jun 9, 2020 00:49 |
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Texas cities will win all of these because it has state police AND the Texas Rangers
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# ? Jun 9, 2020 00:53 |
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Do Texas Rangers actually get to pursue bandits beyond the borders of Texas? That part sounds cool
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# ? Jun 9, 2020 05:46 |
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:Do Texas Rangers actually get to pursue bandits beyond the borders of Texas? That part sounds cool Yes, if the border is the Mexican one and this is prior to 1920. It was decidedly uncool.
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# ? Jun 9, 2020 05:55 |
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It was a real rear end in a top hat move to attack America to bait them into invading Mexico. It didn't do anything good for Mexico, but he kept being annoying for long enough to outlive Caranza and then he could just be bribed into retirement. It also was a major departure from the way that he previously courted American public opinion. Weird and crazy guy, Pancho Villa.
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# ? Jun 9, 2020 06:23 |
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Yeah Villa badly misread US public opinion, but he was also desperate at that point having been done dirty by the other revolutionary factions.
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# ? Jun 9, 2020 07:00 |
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Arglebargle III posted:Yeah Villa badly misread US public opinion, but he was also desperate at that point having been done dirty by the other revolutionary factions. I just got a flashback to some novel where someone thought Pancho Villa may have been still alive (at the time the story took place) but I don't think the story had much to do with Villa as it went, and it bugs me that I can't remember what it was
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# ? Jun 9, 2020 07:38 |
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Zapata he went into battle with and just straight-up lost, from what I hear, in a large part due to Villa's tactical errors. Carranza genuinely did him dirty, but then he had been doing Villa dirty throughout the war, so it was easy to see coming. And before all that, Obregon actually went to Villa and offered to help make sure Carranza didn't take charge of the whole country by the war's end, but instead of taking the offer, Villa tried to have Obregon killed, so obviously he was going to join with the other side when the convention went awry. Better the devil who won't have you summarily executed. I'm never really sure what Villa's main motivations were, but the position he found himself in was the result of his own decisions. I feel like he correctly read US public opinion most of the time, he just decided towards the end that he'd rather court their fury rather than their awe, which was a weird decision and doesn't exactly make him seem like the kind of person you'd trust very much.
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# ? Jun 9, 2020 07:38 |
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Golbez posted:I lived in Southeast Washington in the early 90s, but only 6 blocks from the Capitol, so we had: wow, the only person in the world who feels safe when the police are around
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# ? Jun 9, 2020 14:18 |
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Well, you probably are less likely to be accosted by criminals in that situation. The unfortunate caveat is that you are more likely to be accosted by the police.
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# ? Jun 9, 2020 14:25 |
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Villa always disliked Obregon.
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# ? Jun 9, 2020 14:52 |
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Apparently they're actually armed?
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# ? Jun 9, 2020 15:16 |
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mandatory lesbian posted:wow, the only person in the world who feels safe when the police are around Yes, being a white kid in southeast DC in the early 90s is pretty much the baseline for "feeling safer around cops than not around cops".
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# ? Jun 9, 2020 15:55 |
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https://twitter.com/TerribleMaps/status/1270497410150739968?s=19
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 01:31 |
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These are neat
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 07:23 |
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Is there a name for states west of the Mississippi, but excluding the west coast?
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 12:53 |
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Count Roland posted:Is there a name for states west of the Mississippi, but excluding the west coast? Starts with an F
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 13:02 |
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...The Midwest?
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thechosenone posted:...The Midwest? No. This is a fun can of worms that others can go into. But usually the Midwest includes states east of the Mississippi, and excludes states farther to the west like Idaho or Wyoming.
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