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Amethyst posted:We've basically been living in a US vassal state all our lives. I'm trying to imagine what it's going to be like living in a Chinese vassal state. "Worse" is my main conclusion. As opposed to now where we have a bright future to look forward to.
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bell jar posted:No, I don't work for the public service sucks that In This Economy the main choices are to work to enrich capitalists and reinforce colonialism or work to reinforce colonialism and enrich capitalists
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Jun 9, 2020 04:46
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Cartoon posted:I'm moderately racist according to the test. The test is basically an adhd training exercise, and you'll probably do poorly if you have bad working memory and processing speed.
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Jun 9, 2020 04:50
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:As opposed to now where we have a bright future to look forward to. I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this post. Are you saying you don't expect much substantive difference between US vassalage and Chinese vassalage?
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Jun 9, 2020 04:53
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A travel advisory against coming to Australia due to racism, and a rise in racism, is a fair cop.
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Jun 9, 2020 05:03
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Amethyst posted:I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this post. Are you saying you don't expect much substantive difference between US vassalage and Chinese vassalage? I'm sure there's a difference, I'm not happier with either choice though.
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Jun 9, 2020 05:04
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Tokamak posted:The test is basically an adhd training exercise, and you'll probably do poorly if you have bad working memory and processing speed. I’m pretty sure I took that test like I played street fighter as a kid. Just mash them keys.
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Jun 9, 2020 05:04
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Tokamak posted:The test is basically an adhd training exercise, and you'll probably do poorly if you have bad working memory and processing speed. Yeah, I changed the way I was processing each association part way through the test which would make it differ in each part, and could game the system to get the result I wanted. Doesn't seem particularly valid to me, but I don't know if they have any way of accounting for that in mass results.
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Jun 9, 2020 05:11
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:I'm sure there's a difference, I'm not happier with either choice though. You say that now lol
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Jun 9, 2020 05:20
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Truly the barbarians are at our gates, we better sign up for whatever hair-brained proxy war the USA is planning.
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Jun 9, 2020 05:30
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:Truly the barbarians are at our gates, we better sign up for whatever hair-brained proxy war the USA is planning. Why
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Jun 9, 2020 05:32
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:Truly the barbarians are at our gates, we better sign up for whatever hair-brained proxy war the USA is planning. Can you try talking about this is terms other than the stupid cartoon that is continually looping in your head? Australia has barely any agency in this geopolitical nightmare. I'm trying to understand how this will impact us (and by "this", to be clear, I mean CCP dominance of our government)
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Jun 9, 2020 05:33
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Amethyst posted:Can you try talking about this is terms other than the stupid cartoon that is continually looping in your head? Australia has barely any agency in this geopolitical nightmare. I'm trying to understand how this will impact us (and by "this", to be clear, I mean CCP dominance of our government) The lesser evil is still very loving evil.
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Jun 9, 2020 05:34
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Amethyst posted:Can you try talking about this is terms other than the stupid cartoon that is continually looping in your head? Australia has barely any agency in this geopolitical nightmare. I'm trying to understand how this will impact us (and by "this", to be clear, I mean CCP dominance of our government) Probably the best thing to look at are countries that are under the Chinese economic sphere of influence already. It seems to be mostly poor/developing nations at the moment but it looks like large investments in infrastructure in exchange for access to fisheries/fossil fuels/military bases. I think you're worried over nothing because Australia is going to remain glued to the US no matter what.
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Jun 9, 2020 05:41
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hooman posted:Probably the best thing to look at are countries that are under the Chinese economic sphere of influence already. It seems to be mostly poor/developing nations at the moment but it looks like large investments in infrastructure in exchange for access to fisheries/fossil fuels/military bases. Remaining glued to the US over China may be even more worrying than the alternative though, which is why I'm trying to think about what both scenarios look like. The CCP are already using us as an example by imposing penalties which will impact all of us for years.
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Jun 9, 2020 05:43
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Idk if signing up with the dictator nation is a good idea
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Jun 9, 2020 05:46
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JBP posted:Idk if signing up with the dictator nation is a good idea
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A few months ago some Australian Members of Parliament marched in Hong Kong in support of the protestors there. I strongly doubt that will ever happen again
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Jun 9, 2020 05:49
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Amethyst posted:Probably should have though of that before making the entire economy dependent on a dictator nation, then I think everyone was racist enough to think that China would always be a cheap labour camp rather than using all that money and centralised command structure to financially conquer Asia.
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Jun 9, 2020 05:50
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JBP posted:I think everyone was racist enough to think that China would always be a cheap labour camp rather than using all that money and centralised command structure to financially conquer Asia. I also think that after the collapse of the soviet union people assumed liberal democracy would spread naturally across the globe because it's a perfect ideology and that the CCPcan be as oppressive as they want it's only a matter of time before they decide that totalitarianism is for losers and revert to their natural liberal state once they get a taste of television and cheese. Laughable now but I believe this is literally what happened.
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Jun 9, 2020 05:53
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Amethyst posted:I also think that after the collapse of the soviet union people assumed liberal democracy would spread naturally across the globe because it's a perfect ideology and that the CCPcan be as oppressive as they want it's only a matter of time before they decide that totalitarianism is for losers and revert to their natural liberal state once they get a taste of television and cheese. Laughable now but I believe this is literally what happened. "Spread naturally"
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Jun 9, 2020 05:56
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:"Spread naturally" can you please stop with this stock amerikka poo poo. thanks
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Jun 9, 2020 05:58
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America is plenty fine with dictatorships.
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Jun 9, 2020 05:59
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:America is plenty fine with dictatorships. Incredible stuff. Guess we shouldn't discuss the CCP any further. Thanks
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Jun 9, 2020 06:00
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DId anyone play Valve's Artifact? It was designed in a way that made every deck play exactly like a MTG Blue Control Deck, the most fun deck to play against. Everyone loved it.
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Jun 9, 2020 06:01
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Amoeba102 posted:A travel advisory against coming to Australia due to racism, and a rise in racism, is a fair cop. Nah it's a sulky tit-for-tat from a glass-jawed state because of our recent diplomatic stoushes, which in any case is a moot point because nobody is travelling to Australia any time in the near future Amethyst posted:I also think that after the collapse of the soviet union people assumed liberal democracy would spread naturally across the globe because it's a perfect ideology and that the CCPcan be as oppressive as they want it's only a matter of time before they decide that totalitarianism is for losers and revert to their natural liberal state once they get a taste of television and cheese. Laughable now but I believe this is literally what happened. There was also a notion that the internet would naturally lead to freedom and democracy because the Chinese government would be unable to control it, which is even more laughable now. John Lanchester had a good piece on it in the LRB last year: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v41/n19/john-lanchester/document-number-nine Instead it's using internet technology to become ever-more autocratic, which you're right to be worried about and is one of the reasons people who claim "America is just as bad" are wrong and dumb: quote:Put all this together. Imagine a place in which there’s a police post every hundred metres, and tens of thousands of cameras linked to a state-run facial recognition system; where people are forced to have police-owned GPS systems in their cars, and you can buy petrol only after having your face scanned; where all mobile phones have a state app on them to monitor their activity and prevent access to ‘damaging information’; where religious activity is monitored; where the state knows whether you have family and friends abroad, and where the government offers free health clinics as a way of getting your fingerprint and iris scan and samples of your DNA. Strittmatter points out that you don’t need to imagine this place, because it exists: that’s life in Xinjiang for the minority population of Muslim Uighurs.
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Tokamak posted:The test is basically an adhd training exercise, and you'll probably do poorly if you have bad working memory and processing speed. But it measures the difference in speed between the various tests, not your overall speed. It doesnt matter if you are 0.2 seconds slower than everyone else, it matters what specific tests you are slower and faster on.
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Jun 9, 2020 06:07
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Implicit bias is like myers-briggs in terms of behavioral predictive power and corporate adoption. It's bunk scientific racism but from the other side of the ideological spectrum https://replicationindex.com/category/implicit-bias/
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Jun 9, 2020 06:12
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freebooter posted:Nah it's a sulky tit-for-tat from a glass-jawed state because of our recent diplomatic stoushes, which in any case is a moot point because nobody is travelling to Australia any time in the near future THanks for the link, I'll read it over the next several hours while flicking between tabs like a goldfish
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Apparently there's people out there who want to bring back unpasteurised milk. This whole thing is so unbelievably stupid and I'm angry about it. Pasteurised milk is safe milk. There's a risk of the milk containing pathogens before it's even left the fuckin cow, why would anyone want to roll the dice? Edit: Also it's sold as "bath milk". Who the hell wants to wash themselves with something potentially riddled with e. coli and who knows what other nasty bacteria? If you want to act like royalty, buy a fuckin coat from some fancy designer, not bathe in fuckin milk and catch something doctors only normally see in medical textbooks. And definitely don't drink it. froglet fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Jun 9, 2020 |
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Jun 9, 2020 06:29
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All the dumbest conspiracy theories are getting more popular, or at least louder.
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Jun 9, 2020 06:32
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Zuckerberg is literally okay with holocaust denial so you can extrapolate from there.
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Jun 9, 2020 06:35
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I want to bring back unpasteurised milk so I can have brie and camembert that don't taste like loving garbage.
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HazCat posted:I want to bring back unpasteurised milk so I can have brie and camembert that don't taste like loving garbage. raw milk for cheesemaking is allowed in Australia again, I think the accreditation process is pretty tough though
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Jun 9, 2020 06:38
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Unpasteurised milk is fine providing you drink it basically straight out of the cow. It doesn't keep at all.
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Jun 9, 2020 06:39
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Raw milk cheese is already legal. My deli stocks it. It isn't really safe though lol. France, where it's very common to eat raw milk cheese, has significantly higher deaths and misscarriages as a result of listeria infection. Tastes good though
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Tomberforce posted:Unpasteurised milk is fine providing you drink it basically straight out of the cow. It doesn't keep at all. Yeah if you live on the farm odds are it'll be fine. The moment machinery, storage and transport is introduced the risk goes up exponentially.
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froglet posted:Apparently there's people out there who want to bring back unpasteurised milk. Its sold as bath milk to get around the legality of selling raw milk. No one is bathing in it. The same way that synthetic marijuana was sold as 'incense' with big labels saying not to smoke it, "bath" milk is sold with a warning not to drink it.
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Amethyst posted:Remaining glued to the US over China may be even more worrying than the alternative though, which is why I'm trying to think about what both scenarios look like. The CCP are already using us as an example by imposing penalties which will impact all of us for years. Yeah I wasn't making any judgement on us staying glued, just observing that it's unified Lib/Lab policy and any movement otherwise would have the racists screaming from the rooftops (as well as the entirety of the media). Honestly reducing our import requirement from China/Overseas would be a good thing, because we'd be producing more at home (more jobs) as well as reducing international freight travel, which given a 2050 decarbonisation, we really really need to get onto. So while consumer electronics prices may go up short term, it may result in them going up a lot less long term (when carbon finally rationalises into prices). EDIT: I'm not an economist at all, so take with a big grain of salt.
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hooman posted:Yeah I wasn't making any judgement on us staying glued, just observing that it's unified Lib/Lab policy and any movement otherwise would have the racists screaming from the rooftops (as well as the entirety of the media). mate if you were an economist I'd take it with an even bigger grain of salt.
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