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Some of us were clearly traumatized in our youths by the original TMNT game on NES and it shows
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Most of the sewer levels that come to mind for me are pretty innocent (earthbound, Chrono Trigger, tmnt turtles in time). Arkham Asylum's was pretty terrible tho.
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Jun 8, 2020 15:03
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Dark Forces mission 3: Anoat sewers. Fuuuuuuck that.
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Jun 8, 2020 15:17
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Did I tell you about the time I fought a zeugl in the sewers??
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Jun 8, 2020 15:19
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I see no practical difference between a dungeon dressed up like a sewer and a dungeon dressed up like a cave Now underwater levels, don't get me started
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Jun 8, 2020 15:51
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Sewers are more interesting than caves  Edit: Unless it's the Vampire cavern.
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Jun 8, 2020 16:03
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The most egregious sewer level has to be Bloodlines.
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Jun 8, 2020 17:02
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Sewer-Caves . . . Literally anything else Sewers . . . . . . . . Caves
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Jun 8, 2020 17:03
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Arcsquad12 posted:Dark Forces mission 3: Anoat sewers. This is the one, the worst sewer level. Like a big steaming pile of pig poo poo in the middle of a delicious sandwich. I spent hours on that level, completely lost.
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Jun 8, 2020 17:04
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:The most egregious sewer level has to be Bloodlines.
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Jun 8, 2020 17:12
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I recall maybe two sewer levels in The Witcher 3, a 125 hour game, that lasted maybe a total of 30 minutes spent in the actual sewer. Clearly overused, CDPR.
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Jun 8, 2020 17:18
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Arcsquad12 posted:Dark Forces mission 3: Anoat sewers. Oh gently caress I remember that. They are so bad last I checked the sewer monster circumvented the god mode cheat. It was the last level of the demo, and i hated playing it again on the full version.
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Jun 8, 2020 17:22
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I like the sewer levels in all the Witcher games. Now, swamps are another issue.
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Jun 8, 2020 17:57
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All the caves and sewers in W3 are pretty small. They actually have quite a lot of reused assets too, but there aren't enough caves/dungeons for it to be super noticeable except on replays. I do miss dungeon-crawling, that's about the only thing Skyrim does better than W3.
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Jun 8, 2020 18:48
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I didn't remember anything being too tedious the first time I played, but I will admit that I got really tired of caves by the end of my replay. They're not very fun to look at or navigate (especially the rare multi-level ones) and the fact that they're dark enough to require torch or cat adds an extra layer of annoyingness. Especially if it's a mission that requires you to go in and out of a cave in rapid succession, because activating and deactivating cat is a little bit of nuisance. Nothing that would make me ragequit the game mind you, but if I had a note for CDPR, it'd be "no caves in cyberpunk 2077 please". or if you must, put some shiny crystals or something in there so it's not just a boring brown tunnel
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Jun 8, 2020 19:09
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Ainsley McTree posted:
There will 100% be some cyberpunk sewers though.
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Jun 8, 2020 21:21
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Look Sir Droids posted:There will 100% be some cyberpunk sewers though. Yes an entire network of the things spanning the entire city. Can't wait  I'd love it if some quest you take says you have to go in the sewer for this or that reason and V says gently caress that I aint going down no stinky sewer and shoots the quest giver in the face and gets a point of cool for doing it.
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Jun 8, 2020 23:21
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:The most egregious sewer level has to be Bloodlines. I know you think you mean the Tzimisce dungeon, but what you really mean are the city hub ones. Jesus gently caress, if you're going to put something that bland & useless (that is also two loading screens) just so nossies can move about from one manhole to the next and fill up on rats, go ahead and put a fast travel menu and fill my bloodbar when I use it. Yeah, I know you practically have to be invading NPCs' personal space to risk a masquerade violation from being a Nossie. That somehow makes the hub sewers even *more* pointless and bad.
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Jun 9, 2020 02:33
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I just finished the game tonight (as in, finished Blood and Wine) after buying it just after Christmas last year. What a game! I was captivated the whole way through, only stalled a little bit at one point where I think I posted in here to essentially ask permission to skip around on side quests. The DLC stories were fantastic too! Vlodimir was hilarious. Toussaint was gorgeous, and I'm a sucker for stories about sisters with complex relationships. The choices I made throughout the story, each of which was 100% right, completely black and white, no question: - Romanced Yen - Encouraged Ciri to become a witcher - Killed Djikstra and cleared the way for peace with Nilfgaard - Supported Cerys to be queen of Skellige - Let Gaunter O'Dimm take Olgierd's soul - I did two endings of Blood and Wine (everyone dead & sisters reconciling) but the second is the "real" one to me Uhh, what else can I throw out there to set off an argument over the correct choices... Oh! I freed the tree. Tree >>>> crones
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Jun 9, 2020 14:08
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The only wrong choice here is killing Dijkstra. gently caress Roche, the fascist genocidal prick.
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Jun 9, 2020 14:42
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:The only wrong choice here is killing Dijkstra. gently caress Roche, the fascist genocidal prick. When I asked for help, Roche came running. Dijkstra just threw me some money.
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Jun 9, 2020 16:15
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I only played W3 so I still don't understand the Roche/Iorveth split, or if I should have let Letho live. I decided to have killed him my first playthrough, and let him live on New Game+ just so I can do that path. Letting Radovid live seemed like an unqualified bad idea. Letting Dijkstra rule Temeria didn't seem better than letting it become a vassal state.
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Jun 9, 2020 16:47
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Crappy Jack posted:When I asked for help, Roche came running. Dijkstra just threw me some money. Yeah because you said you were going to kill some elves, the sicko. Can't help himself.
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Jun 9, 2020 16:54
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No choice has an unambiguous good option. They all have hosed up outcomes for someone, somewhere. That said, always keep Letho alive.
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Jun 9, 2020 18:29
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Lucas Archer posted:No choice has an unambiguous good option. They all have hosed up outcomes for someone, somewhere. He basically framed me, why in the gently caress would I do that?
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Jun 9, 2020 18:36
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Lucas Archer posted:No choice has an unambiguous good option. Wrong. The correct choice is to always let a troll live.
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Jun 9, 2020 18:39
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Fargin Icehole posted:He basically framed me, why in the gently caress would I do that? he helped you find and save yennefer also he saves triss for you if you go after whatever the other hostage was Cowcaster fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Jun 9, 2020 |
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Jun 9, 2020 18:44
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if you ever hurt a troll besides the bare knuckle boxing match, you are my enemy
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Jun 9, 2020 18:44
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Edit: Nevermind read that wrong. Letho doesn't frame Geralt, he just happens to be there at the wrong time. On the other hand Roche knows Geralt didn't kill him but he still blackmails him into going after the kingslayer. Avalerion fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jun 9, 2020 |
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Jun 9, 2020 18:54
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If this game teaches us anything it's that witchers have to make hard choices, and who are we to kill Letho for his
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Jun 9, 2020 18:56
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Fargin Icehole posted:He basically framed me, why in the gently caress would I do that? Hey ! You were the one playing politics and king-paling. Should have stuck with the path of not giving a gently caress (except troll fucks, which should be given in large quantities) and not been there to frame in the first place.
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Jun 9, 2020 19:28
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please don't gently caress the trolls
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Jun 9, 2020 19:34
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Halloween Jack posted:I only played W3 so I still don't understand the Roche/Iorveth split, or if I should have let Letho live. I decided to have killed him my first playthrough, and let him live on New Game+ just so I can do that path. Him being dead is what the game defaults to, iirc. But having him alive is much more interesting. Look Sir Droids posted:Wrong. The correct choice is to always let a troll live.  Ainsley McTree posted:If this game teaches us anything it's that witchers have to make hard choices, and who are we to kill Letho for his 
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Jun 9, 2020 19:50
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I'm going through HoS right now and just did the heist. Literally everyone ended up dead except the elven acrobat who ran away cravenly at the first sign of trouble. It was one of those situations where I decided that since the game is presenting as "everyone involved in this is an absolute unambiguous bastard" I was gonna make Geralt lose patience with all of them and say fuckit, I'll just be the biggest bastard of all these pricks. Took everything in that vault for myself, left a pile of bloody corpses, didn't regret a thing and would do it the same way again if save-scummed. I'll be curious to see how differently that might have turned out if I had hired different people or made different dialogue choices during the heist. Was it one of those quests where it was always going to go that way and the dialogue options are just for flavour, or can significant story changes come from different choices? If the second, I'll look up the variations on Youtube. I don't think I'll ever play this game again after this so I'm going with the "whatever happens, happens - play on" philosophy.
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Jun 9, 2020 20:27
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Fargin Icehole posted:He basically framed me, why in the gently caress would I do that? The scene at the end of Witcher 2 where Geralt lets Letho go is really well done and justifies the situation really well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjspBrYILJk
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Jun 9, 2020 20:29
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Halloween Jack posted:Letting Radovid live seemed like an unqualified bad idea. Letting Dijkstra rule Temeria didn't seem better than letting it become a vassal state. What about the rest of the Northern Realms? Redania, Kaedwen, Aedirn, and probably Mahakam are annexed by Nilfgaard if Emhyr wins the war, which seems significantly worse for them than being ruled by Dijkstra. Why is Temeria the only concern? And that's assuming the temeria that just gets vassalized is all of the lands ruled by Foltest when he died, and not just Temeria proper.
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Jun 9, 2020 21:04
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Cactus posted:I'm going through HoS right now and just did the heist. Literally everyone ended up dead except the elven acrobat who ran away cravenly at the first sign of trouble. It was one of those situations where I decided that since the game is presenting as "everyone involved in this is an absolute unambiguous bastard" I was gonna make Geralt lose patience with all of them and say fuckit, I'll just be the biggest bastard of all these pricks. Took everything in that vault for myself, left a pile of bloody corpses, didn't regret a thing and would do it the same way again if save-scummed. I think the only big thing that can change is whether or not you have to fight the soldiers surrounding the building. Other than that it's just dialogue differences.
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Jun 9, 2020 21:07
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Ainsley McTree posted:Some of us were clearly traumatized in our youths by the original TMNT game on NES and it shows loving same. I had that game as a kid and when I beat that stage for the first time, in my mind, I had already beaten the game. I've resented underwater levels in games ever sense.
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Jun 9, 2020 21:36
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That quest is an interesting experiment in that it is a main story quest for a different character and Geralt really doesn't have control over what happens.
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professor metis posted:I just finished the game tonight (as in, finished Blood and Wine) after buying it just after Christmas last year. What a game! I was captivated the whole way through, only stalled a little bit at one point where I think I posted in here to essentially ask permission to skip around on side quests. The DLC stories were fantastic too! Vlodimir was hilarious. Toussaint was gorgeous, and I'm a sucker for stories about sisters with complex relationships. Did you let the cat witcher from the Where The Cat And Wolf Play sidequest live?
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