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Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

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I too hate video games, they are bad.

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Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

al-azad posted:

I'm working on a video game adaption of I Spit On Your Grave where you learn via a series of notes that your rapists are misunderstood family men frustrated at a patriarchal system that does not support them but they lack the language to understand and express that frustration. You discover this after an unskippable QTE where you cut their penis off and force feed it to them but I really want the player to question their actions like "why the gently caress did I pay $60 for this garbage?"

i expect to sweep the vga's

finally games are art

Dewgy posted:

I too hate video games, they are bad.

:yeah:

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Waffleman_ posted:

This is where I'm at. It feels like the game is kind of indulging itself in how dark and edgy it is in a way that feels inauthentic.

Neil Druckmann mails dead animals to TLOU2 cast members, promises the most twisted portrayal of the Joelker yet.

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


Dewgy posted:

I too hate video games, they are bad.

Sorry video games, you had a good run.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Dewgy posted:

I too hate video games, they are bad.

Videogames = canceled

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Stux posted:

i dont think glorifying is the right word if its all meant to be framed as "this sucks"

a game that glorifys violence is something like cod or farcry

If you do good in a combat sequence, you are rewarded with a gory animation where you cut someone's achilles tendon and then stab them in the throat when they fall. The visceral enjoyment of the violence is what they're pushing as a significant part of the appeal of the game.

SeXReX
Jan 9, 2009

I drink, mostly.
And get mad at people on the internet


:emptyquote:
Botolo is in the itch bundle and it loving SLAPS. It's a 2d topdown king of the hill based competitive/fighting game that is all about footsies and hard reads, talking emphasis off of executing nuclear launch commands so there's less of a barrier for entry for someone new to the game to get up to the level of someone who's played it before.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

Stux posted:

a game isnt just mechanics and it can be player hostile in its writing as well. whether tlou2 will actually achieve it is one thing, but to deny the possiblity of games to explore t hat avenue isnt good to me.
big disagree, mechanics are all games have. there's a huge difference in impact in watching a recording of something oppressive happening in a video game and actively participating in it and having a great time doing the atrocities because it's a mirror polished half billion dollar AAA game

this is known as the "open palm slam a tape into the vcr and right then and there I start doing the moves alongside the main character" paradox, aka diesels razor

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Violence is extremely cool, aesthetically speaking. This is one thing I'd expect anybody who plays video games to agree on.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

homeless snail posted:

big disagree, mechanics are all games have. there's a huge difference in impact in watching a recording of something oppressive happening in a video game and actively participating in it and having a great time doing the atrocities because it's a mirror polished half billion dollar AAA game

this is known as the "open palm slam a tape into the vcr and right then and there I start doing the moves alongside the main character" paradox, aka diesels razor

This is why I am going to watch a LP of TLOU2 instead of actually playing it. Also I don't have a PS4.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

exquisite tea posted:

Violence is extremely cool, aesthetically speaking. This is one thing I'd expect anybody who plays video games to agree on.
Killing People Is Fail imo, but that's just my opinion

Convex posted:

This is why I am going to watch a LP of TLOU2 instead of actually playing it. Also I don't have a PS4.
I will give you a waiver on this and only this game, enjoy the movie

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
It's interesting because some people do think that violence and conflict are the only languages people respond to, but every study directly contradicts this.

People respond to the ability to affect the game. It doesn't matter if you're shooting a realistic assault rifle into an unarmed person, or throwing candy at animals. What you're responding to is the fact that your actions are changing the game.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Will you even be able to watch a Lets Play of TLOUSP2? The game sounds like it is so horrifically violent that it wouldn't get pass Youtubes auto censors.

Weedle
May 31, 2006




I said come in! posted:

Will you even be able to watch a Lets Play of TLOUSP2? The game sounds like it is so horrifically violent that it wouldn't get pass Youtubes auto censors.

it’ll be hosted on liveleak

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox

I said come in! posted:

Will you even be able to watch a Lets Play of TLOUSP2? The game sounds like it is so horrifically violent that it wouldn't get pass Youtubes auto censors.

YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS DOG *WORLDSTAR*

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

Gripweed posted:

If you do good in a combat sequence, you are rewarded with a gory animation where you cut someone's achilles tendon and then stab them in the throat when they fall. The visceral enjoyment of the violence is what they're pushing as a significant part of the appeal of the game.

the combat is avoidable with stealth and the violence is meant to make you not want to kill, thats been clear. they could absolutely ham fist it and do it badly and it is druckman, but the message of "its bad" has been clear.

the reason games usually sanitise violence is to make it enjoyable to do, the reason you would depict it more viscerally is to make it off putting. you dont make npcs scream out for their friends to make it more fun to kill someone in a game.

homeless snail posted:

big disagree, mechanics are all games have. there's a huge difference in impact in watching a recording of something oppressive happening in a video game and actively participating in it and having a great time doing the atrocities because it's a mirror polished half billion dollar AAA game

this is known as the "open palm slam a tape into the vcr and right then and there I start doing the moves alongside the main character" paradox, aka diesels razor

this essentialist view of media has never been useful, its the same impulse that would lead someone to declare cinema verite as the only pure form of a movie as the cinematography is what seperates it from other mediums. a game is more than just mechanics, it is an amalgamation of its parts and its completely valid to have different games focus on different areas, and in refusing parts can make a point. a clear example would be depression quest purposefully removing the "mechanics" of the game as it progresses to force the player to deal with the realities of people who suffer from depression, and who may not be able to make certain choices that are available to others. mandating that any art/media form must fit strict criteria is pointlessly limiting and narrows the ability for people to express themselves in their work.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

I said come in! posted:

Will you even be able to watch a Lets Play of TLOUSP2? The game sounds like it is so horrifically violent that it wouldn't get pass Youtubes auto censors.
I'll be streaming it on pornhub, between koikatsu sessions

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

mechanics : games :: a continuous sequence of images : movies

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Stux posted:

the combat is avoidable with stealth and the violence is meant to make you not want to kill, thats been clear.

The Last Of Us 2 is a product, and they are marketing it because they want people to buy it. The trailers haven't shown people sneakily avoiding combat and violence, they've shown some amount of sneaking that always ends in violence. The sneaking creates tension, the violence is release of that tension. That is the experience they are selling.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

homeless snail posted:

mechanics : games :: a continuous sequence of images : movies

movies include indepth audio descriptive tracks for blind people so they can still enjoy the movie.

Gripweed posted:

The Last Of Us 2 is a product, and they are marketing it because they want people to buy it. The trailers haven't shown people sneakily avoiding combat and violence, they've shown some amount of sneaking that always ends in violence. The sneaking creates tension, the violence is release of that tension. That is the experience they are selling.

marketing is often at odds with what it is selling and shouldnt be used to inform yourself. just look at the trailer for the assistant vs the actual film.

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009
Hello

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

sup

ErrEff
Feb 13, 2012

On the flipside, there's probably some people out there that will welcome TLOU2's nihilistic approach and violent content as cathartic during... this moment in time. I'm definitely not one of them but I'm sure they exist (and I bet Sony folks are crossing all available fingers).

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


Mods are asleep, post smooth jazz

https://i.imgur.com/XmLZYjj.mp4
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I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Infinitum posted:

Mods are asleep, post smooth jazz

https://i.imgur.com/XmLZYjj.mp4
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Amp
Sep 10, 2010

:11tea::bubblewoop::agesilaus::megaman::yoshi::squawk::supaburn::iit::spooky::axe::honked::shroom::smugdog::sg::pkmnwhy::parrot::screamy::tubular::corsair::sanix::yeeclaw::hayter::flip::redflag:

Infinitum posted:

Mods are asleep, post smooth jazz

https://i.imgur.com/XmLZYjj.mp4
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I will never post smooth jazz I will only ever post Mingus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtLiwC1hcrI

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

what did someone say mint jams I heard mint jams

post mint jams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0iCWFwwIaQ

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

the most insane loving part of mint jams is that it's a loving live album. All of that poo poo you're hearing is live. Casiopea is insanely loving talented

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mhk9zxb1mw

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

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Infinitum posted:

Mods are asleep, post smooth jazz

https://i.imgur.com/XmLZYjj.mp4
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What is this song? It's awesome, and Shazam has failed me.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3miPdmvptBY

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009




Nothing much, might fall back asleep soon. I played and finished a metroidvania game from that recent itch.io bundle. The game is called Spooky Ghosts Dot Com and in it you defeat ghosts and monsters and also pet cats. I don't think petting the cats unlocks anything but it is nice to do.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004


Cumlord is a smaller version of my dog.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

FirstAidKite posted:



Nothing much, might fall back asleep soon. I played and finished a metroidvania game from that recent itch.io bundle. The game is called Spooky Ghosts Dot Com and in it you defeat ghosts and monsters and also pet cats. I don't think petting the cats unlocks anything but it is nice to do.


Nice. I'm going to play Tonight We Riot from the same bundle tonight! Also saw that Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass just got added which I heard was pretty good!

bushisms.txt
May 26, 2004

Scroll, then. There are other posts than these.


TIL the last of us turn out to be very fine people

Help Im Alive
Nov 8, 2009

what's everyone playing

I'm playing Nioh 2 and it's still good/working my way through 51 worldwide classics/still checking in with Animal Crossing every day

I was also in the mood to finally play Sherlock Holmes: The Devil's Daughter since I liked Crimes & Punishments but I'm too lazy to download it so I'm watching Miss Sherlock, the japanese sherlock where sherlock and wato-san are women and now I want a game of this instead

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

I'm playing Sakura Wars and also Sakura Wars.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

i hadnt played ff14 since i got the coronavirus so i'm getting back into that. those two things dont sound related but trust me they extremely are

also hakuoki and the pc version of phantom brave

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Help Im Alive posted:

I'm watching Miss Sherlock, the japanese sherlock where sherlock and wato-san are women and now I want a game of this instead

London Detective Mysteria, maybe

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Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012

Help Im Alive posted:

what's everyone playing

I'm playing Nioh 2 and it's still good/working my way through 51 worldwide classics/still checking in with Animal Crossing every day

I was also in the mood to finally play Sherlock Holmes: The Devil's Daughter since I liked Crimes & Punishments but I'm too lazy to download it so I'm watching Miss Sherlock, the japanese sherlock where sherlock and wato-san are women and now I want a game of this instead
I'm deciding whether I should get something on sale for PS4 or wait and try to clear out the backlog some more. In the mean time playing through Mega Man 9 and 10.

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