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With all this testing of hard, are you all going to tell Petroglyph about it?
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Jun 9, 2020 06:46
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I imagine the testers were already hardcore C&C fans to begin with and played so much during testing they were able to overcome the Hard mode with their micro but who has that time? Struggling to find a reason why it would be so unbalanced otherwise. 
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Jun 9, 2020 06:54
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3 DONG HORSE posted:I imagine the testers were already hardcore C&C fans to begin with and played so much during testing they were able to overcome the Hard mode with their micro but who has that time? Struggling to find a reason why it would be so unbalanced otherwise. The hard mode negates hard counters, if anything it should make hard counters the way to win. Instead its just about if you can overcome a meatgrinder before the tiberium runs out.
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Jun 9, 2020 07:11
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OneEightHundred posted:On normal, yeah. I recommend changing the hard difficulty as I detailed here. I just did GDI mission 9 and was able to kill the turrets without resorting to air strikes. axeil posted:
Bloodly posted:With all this testing of hard, are you all going to tell Petroglyph about it? I mean...should I? Is there a way to do that? I assume they did what they did for a reason and it feels inappropriate to suggest they change their game. axeil fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Jun 9, 2020 |
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Jun 9, 2020 07:37
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It has been posted about in the C&C subreddital and discord where a few ea and petroglyph people see it. The problem is that everybody was/is working from home the past month which meant less QA testing and some features delayed until post launch (lan)
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Jun 9, 2020 08:07
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So is this worth getting even if I have not played the originals?
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Jun 9, 2020 08:24
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Unlucky7 posted:So is this worth getting even if I have not played the originals? Yes absolutely it's worth it. They are very good games that hold up well especially with all the quality of life improvements they've backported.
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Jun 9, 2020 08:38
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Spookydonut posted:The hard mode negates hard counters, if anything it should make hard counters the way to win. Instead its just about if you can overcome a meatgrinder before the tiberium runs out. Problem is the game doesn't even give you the tech tree to use the counters in half of the missions, so it's already a suboptimal slog, and it's not really very well balanced, so a lot of the counters aren't very effective in the first place (i.e. rocket troops are almost always a waste of money, unless you're a filthy cheater AI that doesn't pay for them). The normal difficulty is already "hard" by most RTS standards.
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Jun 9, 2020 08:44
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In Nod 9: Reinforce Egypt can I give the computer a higher value target than the commando to napalm? Seeing the mission in C&C 95 on Youtube they always go for flame throwers instead, but that's not happening for me.
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Jun 9, 2020 09:48
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Besides functionality issues RA2 seems to hold up quite well grahically speaking, excluding the vehicles. Tiberian Sun really could use a remaster.
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Jun 9, 2020 14:29
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Mordja posted:Essence is great. I kinda dislike CNC3's visual style and the way they got rid of mechs so that mod is really my preferred way to play that game. Apparently the latest version is kinda buggy tho and most people play with 1.6, though that does mean no Forgotten faction. The Kane's Wrath expansion brought back mechs and a bunch of cyborgs as well IIRC edit: I forgot how mundane the armies are in the first two games. I guess I got used to the continual ramping up of crazy poo poo in each subsequent title. NoNotTheMindProbe fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Jun 9, 2020 |
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Jun 9, 2020 14:31
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It's ten bucks here (I've bought here before with no issue) if you're okay with Origin instead of Steam https://www.fanatical.com/en/game/c...cj_aid=13797872
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Jun 9, 2020 15:02
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Burns posted:Besides functionality issues RA2 seems to hold up quite well grahically speaking, excluding the vehicles. Tiberian Sun really could use a remaster. I booted up Tiberian Sun last night (from The First Decade) and holy crap its borderline unplayable. Every unit looks like an ant and it's impossible to tell what's going on. I imagine the games from Generals onward are less of an issue because they're true 3D and you can zoom the map.
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Jun 9, 2020 15:27
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axeil posted:I booted up Tiberian Sun last night (from The First Decade) and holy crap its borderline unplayable. Every unit looks like an ant and it's impossible to tell what's going on. You can use GPU scaling, just play it at 1024x768 and have your GPU scale it to your monitors resolution, ideally without stretch.
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Jun 9, 2020 15:40
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axeil posted:I booted up Tiberian Sun last night (from The First Decade) and holy crap its borderline unplayable. Every unit looks like an ant and it's impossible to tell what's going on. If you're using the cncnet loader or ddraw.dll replacements make sure you play it in something like 1280x720 Scaling up to 1920x1080 or greater makes things too tiny for me
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Jun 9, 2020 15:51
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Twerk from Home posted:You can use GPU scaling, just play it at 1024x768 and have your GPU scale it to your monitors resolution, ideally without stretch. Er, how do I do this? I have an AMD card.
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Jun 9, 2020 16:07
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axeil posted:Er, how do I do this? I have an AMD card. https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/dh-019
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Jun 9, 2020 16:11
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I continue my statement that NOD 11 is a horrible grinder mission. 11a seems more bearable than 11b at least.
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Jun 9, 2020 16:34
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gently caress the final Soviet mission. You get killed unless you rush subs and know not to build on the east side of the island Also a final gently caress you to the small cliff area in the top right full of aa guns and bunkers when Soviets have no way to get to it aside from paratroopers
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Jun 9, 2020 16:40
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Found my old C&C strategy guide from storage for a read and to help with a mission or two. Its great with all the little bits backstory and world building written in it. As a bonus it has stuck on the inside and backside covers, printouts of GDI and NOD bases made in their respective final missions. I must of done this back around 1998 or 1999. Must have had a bit of free time time on my hands with the base layouts and that I had both sides construction yards at my disposal.  
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Jun 9, 2020 16:41
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I'm having fun with experimenting with some of the mods. The one that let's you zoom in or out to many order of magnitudes more is a great one. Not only does it help give you a better birds eye view of the battlefield, if you zoom in, you can see loads of crazy details. Like how the Recon Cycles have the driver modled and viewable. Or how the Chem Troopers wear little gas masks and gloves unlike the Flame Troopers. I'd recommend going into the Workshop for the game and downloading them. The mod for soldiers to fist fight also looks hillarious.
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Jun 9, 2020 16:42
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Burns posted:Besides functionality issues RA2 seems to hold up quite well grahically speaking, excluding the vehicles. Tiberian Sun really could use a remaster.
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Jun 9, 2020 16:42
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I just finished plaything through the base GDI campaign and I realized I never saw a single NOD recon bike the entire campaign. I can't remember if it was like that in the original but it seems odd.
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Jun 9, 2020 16:43
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The Question IRL posted:The mod for soldiers to fist fight also looks hillarious. That's actually original code from the original game from the looks of it, you enable it with a define
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Jun 9, 2020 16:46
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Original game shipped with all the boxing graphics, too
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Jun 9, 2020 16:48
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Slavik posted:Found my old C&C strategy guide from storage for a read and to help with a mission or two. Its great with all the little bits backstory and world building written in it. As a bonus it has stuck on the inside and backside covers, printouts of GDI and NOD bases made in their respective final missions. I must of done this back around 1998 or 1999. Must have had a bit of free time time on my hands with the base layouts and that I had both sides construction yards at my disposal. That's awesome, thanks for sharing 
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Jun 9, 2020 16:53
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I never realized just how many fmvs were removed in the german version, jeez. Basically in every fmv/briefing where a human gets hurt/dead body is shown they replaced the footage or played generic scenes like the nod/gdi flag hanging from the building.
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Jun 9, 2020 17:27
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FrickenMoron posted:I never realized just how many fmvs were removed in the german version, jeez. Basically in every fmv/briefing where a human gets hurt/dead body is shown they replaced the footage or played generic scenes like the nod/gdi flag hanging from the building. That's like half the NOD ones, mein Gott!
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Jun 9, 2020 17:33
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Chev posted:Yeah, the vehicles are probably gonna be the big change in a remaster. The voxel-based models haven't aged well at all. You can also make SHP vehicles but they don't animate properly on slopes.
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Jun 9, 2020 17:38
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Oh wow, thank you! The game actually looks pretty good/playable now.
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Jun 9, 2020 17:50
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Having now finished the Nod and GDI, the one thing that I didn’t like some were the Commando/small units with no base missions, and I remember those were the ones I had the most trouble with back in the day. It’s a lot of trail and error (Also save scumming) for some of them, but the difficult slider on TD made them more tolerable. Not gonna lie, I think I did most of those on Casual. Also, for those who finished the GDI campaign, which ending did you get? I thought finishing the temple with the ion cannon got Kane vaporized at the end, but I got one with him getting hit by a ton of bricks that I don’t remember at all... Finally, add me to the list wanting Tiberian Sun & RA2 remasters ASAP. Both of those were great, and I loved the post-apocalyptic/cyberpunk-ish at points look of TS so much.
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Jun 9, 2020 18:07
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Which of the Nod 13 Mission is actually the easiest? Left gives you enough tiberium for a starting base but sandwiches you between 2 missile gunboat rivers. Middle seems to want you to migrate your MCV somewhere else but the starting force is terrible Right seems to be a gimmick where you have to build your mcv/hand of nod in a remote location then capture a base using commando & engineers.
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Jun 9, 2020 18:28
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Tib Dawn was so my jam growing up. I played the hell out of the game. It had been out for a year or two when I got it on my P60 for the princely sum of £40 in the old Virgin Megastore in Dublin. I remember splitting the cost of it with a friend of mine, each taking one of the CD’s to instal the game and we each played through the Single Player Campaign. (My brother and I got the GDI disc. He got the Nod. Then after two weeks we had finished the campaign and swapped.) We got the Covert Ops later, but that was only £15. So I didn’t feel too bad that it was just an add-on. When Red Alert came out, I was likewise hugely into it. I also remember going to an Internet Cafe just to be able to play LAN games against my brother. Again my friend and I split the costs. He played the Allies for the first two weeks, we played Soviets. But it was the Add On packs for Red Alert that killed my love for the series for a while. I read all the previews for the first one (Counterstrike I think.) I saved my money, couldn’t wait to play it. Then I get it and discovered it was just a set of random missions like the Covert Ops. But no new single player story. And that you couldn’t even use the new unitis in skirmish or multiplayer. I was so annoyed at the time that I even wrote a letter (a physical letter) to Westwood complaining about it. It soured my enjoyment that I never played the next add on or the Console ports. So far I’ve just been playing Tib Dawn, but I am wondering how Red Alert will hold up on nostalgia.
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Jun 9, 2020 18:33
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fartknocker posted:Also, for those who finished the GDI campaign, which ending did you get? I thought finishing the temple with the ion cannon got Kane vaporized at the end, but I got one with him getting hit by a ton of bricks that I don’t remember at all... Yeah, ion cannon gives you Kane stretching his arms wide as he faces the approaching beam. Anything else gets you the debris-burial version you saw. I guess either you screwed it up somehow (shell hit after the beam before the temple finished exploding?) or you hit a bug because I was definitely able to get both. IIRC the ion cannon version is the generally accepted "canon" ending to TD.
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Jun 9, 2020 18:35
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Was the temple the last building standing when it got ion cannoned? I think that's also a requirement.
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Jun 9, 2020 18:39
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FrickenMoron posted:Which of the Nod 13 Mission is actually the easiest? Despite looking harder, I found the right the easiest. You should be able to hop the river and take the small Comms Center base with ease and once you do that your Construction Yard is safe and you can expand with ease.
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Jun 9, 2020 18:54
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Insert name here posted:Don't know what extractor you used but the tool from here extracted everything all appropirately named already: Yes the MedEditor does extract the files with actual names, but I still took the time to rename them to what they appear as in the Jukebox because, well, it looks way better and easier to sort/search through.
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Jun 9, 2020 19:45
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axeil posted:Here's everything we've put together in the thread. Nice, have you guys worked on CNC mods before? I'm 0% familiar with the codebase.
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Jun 9, 2020 20:11
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Nostalgamus posted:Was the temple the last building standing when it got ion cannoned? I think that's also a requirement. That might have been it, as I think there was a silo or a power plant left. I know for sure the Ion cannon was the last thing to hit it, as I’d been hitting it first with Orcas and called them off, gave it a second or two to be sure nothing else was coming in, and then fired the ion cannon. I think I saved shortly before that, so I’ll try it again later and see what happens...
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Jun 9, 2020 20:17
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Oookay, just lost my freshly built war factory (NOD mission 8) to the new airstrike targeting. Don't like it. I suppose it might have been targeting the tank I'd just built, but still. I'd like to know how to cheese the new targeting, since the rifleman at the top starting island no longer works.
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Jun 9, 2020 20:34
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