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I don't like mission trees. Too much railroading. And too many permanent claims given out as candy. I suspect I am a minority in this as usual though.
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Hryme posted:I don't like mission trees. Too much railroading. And too many permanent claims given out as candy. I suspect I am a minority in this as usual though. Nah, I largely ignore them unless I complete one by accident. The claims get absurd. Apparently the new patch makes it so if you form Germany you get claims on the low countries, Italy, Poland, and France. 
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Jun 9, 2020 19:25
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Once you’ve formed Germany you’re probably an unstoppable juggernaut so it’s not like giving you a bunch of claims would make it even easier.
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Jun 9, 2020 19:27
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The monopoly interactions for estates seem to give you 10 years worth of production income before factoring in production efficiency (there's a slight discrepancy but I'm not sure from what), so they seem very worth it in the early game.
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Jun 9, 2020 19:30
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Fintilgin posted:Apparently the plan is to turn out more big EUIV expansions, which kinda surprises me. Game is feeling due for a sequel, and I was pretty convinced that Emperor would be the last hurrah. Is EU4 their biggest seller ever? Not sure an expansion is going to address the chronic annoyances we love to discuss in here, but maybe they'll have some cool ideas.
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Jun 9, 2020 19:35
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The papal bull that lets cardinals spread institutions is pretty bonkers. I was getting +5%/month after the bull was enacted. Combined with the pope's ability to appoint cardinals in exchange for a corruption hit, it seems pretty easy for the papacy to get new institutions ASAP.
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Jun 9, 2020 19:37
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Stellaris sold insanely well, I think it's between it and EU4.
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Jun 9, 2020 19:38
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Fintilgin posted:Apparently the plan is to turn out more big EUIV expansions, which kinda surprises me. Game is feeling due for a sequel, and I was pretty convinced that Emperor would be the last hurrah. gently caress, that sucks
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Jun 9, 2020 19:39
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Fintilgin posted:Apparently the plan is to turn out more big EUIV expansions, which kinda surprises me. Game is feeling due for a sequel, and I was pretty convinced that Emperor would be the last hurrah. I thought Emperor would be it too, but honestly i would love a big xpack on north america and colonisation or something
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Jun 9, 2020 20:11
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Ethiser posted:Once you’ve formed Germany you’re probably an unstoppable juggernaut so it’s not like giving you a bunch of claims would make it even easier. I guess. I mean I don't really care, but it just feels silly. It's like if forming the Roman Empire gave claims on the entire world. Okaaaaaaay.... but why?
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Jun 9, 2020 20:12
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Haven’t played it yet, does this patch improve performance at all or no?
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Jun 9, 2020 20:29
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skasion posted:Haven’t played it yet, does this patch improve performance at all or no? 
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Jun 9, 2020 20:39
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Is anyone else getting odd audio distortions?
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Hryme posted:I don't like mission trees. Too much railroading. And too many permanent claims given out as candy. I suspect I am a minority in this as usual though. What do claims even do nowadays? CB and 10% reduction on coring cost? Anything else?
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Jun 9, 2020 21:19
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What would an EU5 do better besides theoretically performing better?
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Jun 9, 2020 21:24
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God drat does the game ever love playing the Guns Drums and Steel pack songs. I cannot for the life of me understand why I thought buying these was a good idea.Shimrra Jamaane posted:What would an EU5 do better besides theoretically performing better? Generally with new games you get new stuff that can't really be supported in the old engine setup. So redoing trade networks, adding a pop system, changing the ways PUs and vassals work, or getting the army supply mechanic into EU would likely require a sequel to be practical. Then there's the stuff loads of us want but the devs very much do not but we will agitate for anyway: geography that meaningfully limits large army movements, rivers that matter, a real map projection, internal conflicts threatening big blobs, provinces that aren't all rounded off, blue Prussia, etc. PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Jun 9, 2020 |
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Jun 9, 2020 21:28
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What would an EU5 do better besides theoretically performing better? Making trade more dynamic would be the huge thing. Also pops I guess (technically isn't development just pops with no skin? Give each point of dev a culture/religion and you are set) .
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Jun 9, 2020 21:31
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What would an EU5 do better besides theoretically performing better? adding a better trade system (less opaque, potentially flexible/controllable nodes), mainstreaming a million dlc-ish quirks, presenting a million tiny bits of information better, properly depicting hogwarts and the other great wizarding institutions as at least a province modifiers or preferably provinces of their own, better gameplay in the americas, and as you say better performance.
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Jun 9, 2020 21:33
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Trade, army supply, better colonization, pops, blue Prussia These are all we need for EU5
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Jun 9, 2020 21:35
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I hadn't bought Dharma or the Iberian peninsula expansion until now that I bought Emperor, but are Restoration of Union CBs supposed to work this way nowadays: Twice now I've simply had a pop-up window saying that a subject broke off a personal union and I've gotten the CB but there was no PU to begin with. Both times the other country has had no heir and lower prestige than mine and when they got a heir, I suppose that is when I got the CB. First time their ruler wasn't even of the same dynasty as mine.
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Jun 9, 2020 21:42
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I'm with Johan, keep prussia gray. Though making them a brown would be even better
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Jun 9, 2020 21:47
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Make Prussia yellow and give Germany back it's toothpaste color.
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Jun 9, 2020 21:48
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Actually, actually, here's what I want: In the next engine, colours should be modifiable on the fly, like how you can change your CoA in CK2. Both the players' and the AI's, though. That way, you can choose your own nation's colour, and also, you can avoid annoying poo poo like two or three almost-identical AIs all bordering each other in a hideous mess. And you can change your rivals to be poo poo-brown and piss-yellow.
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Jun 9, 2020 21:51
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Zeron posted:Making trade more dynamic would be the huge thing. Also pops I guess (technically isn't development just pops with no skin? Give each point of dev a culture/religion and you are set) . In Vicky 1 & 2 pops do all sorts of stuff, like immigrating between and within countries, having ideology and issues that affect voting, consuming goods on the world market, having a religion that literally has no effect in the game, etc. All of this goes to make Vicky 1 & 2 unplayable messes so I hope these kind of pops don't make it to other games, though I guess the Imperator implementation would be tolerable.
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Jun 9, 2020 21:57
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:All of this goes to make Vicky 1 & 2 unplayable messes how-how dare you
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Jun 9, 2020 22:00
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:All of this goes to make Vicky 1 & 2 unplayable messes 
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Jun 9, 2020 22:03
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Those are the things that make vicky own. It's pretty much everything else that makes vicky an unplayable mess 
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Jun 9, 2020 22:05
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hachi machi Saluzzo inf combat +10% ae -15% provincial trade +10% goods produced +10% morale +10% movement speed +15% trade steering +20% missionary strength +1% and tolerance true faith +1 tax +10% core creation cost -15% !! can form sardinia-piedmont for some strong missions and then italy
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Jun 9, 2020 22:17
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im very very rusty and the ai is just punting me around
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Jun 9, 2020 22:19
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What would an EU5 do better besides theoretically performing better? honestly if they just had a release that reorganized the UI established a new gameplay baseline that meant that I didn't have to worry about 16(!) expansions worth of optional content I would be pretty happy. I was a big EU4 fan up until about Rights of Man and the releases since then have just left me kinda lost and overwhelmed.
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Jun 9, 2020 22:23
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AnoHito posted:Those are the things that make vicky own. It's pretty much everything else that makes vicky an unplayable mess I'll give it credit for being pretty unique, and I have played both games quite a bit. But I really feel it suffered for a design focus on a complex population simulator, letting everything else follow from there. Even if you bother to understand what's going on with your POPs (Vicky 2 has decent tools for this) the details of your population don't really matter at all. Meanwhile, everything else about the industrial and political revolutions is boring and generic.
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Jun 9, 2020 22:29
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Really complex unit designer in eu5 where I can select the pommel style of my soldiers; nato counters I would like it if they found some way to make combat ever so slightly more complex / interesting though. Yes, you can play hoi4 for that. It would be fun with knights and artillery too though 
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Jun 9, 2020 22:32
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yikes! posted:What do claims even do nowadays? CB and 10% reduction on coring cost? Anything else? Unless this has been changed, that's only for temporary claims. Permanent claims give a 25% coring cost reduction. Plus, with a lot of new national idea sets containing CCR, it can be pretty powerful.
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Jun 9, 2020 22:41
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Weird bug.... went to buy Emperor and the Steam store is claiming I don't own Cradle of Civilization and Mandate of Heaven. I definitely do and they show up in game fine. No harm I guess, but strange. 
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Jun 9, 2020 23:01
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Funky Valentine posted:Make Prussia yellow and give Germany back it's toothpaste color. Honestly if we can't have blue Prussia because :johan: I would take the Vicky yellow Prussia. The grey Prussia gets now sucks so bad. But yeah the RGB country colors should just be moved into their own file, and excluded from the checksum, so that we can just set them to whatever and Paradox doesn't have to listen to us bitch anymore.
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Jun 9, 2020 23:11
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very funny that you can change the name and the flag of a country for ironman but not the color
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Jun 9, 2020 23:25
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Jun 9, 2020 23:51
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Playing my first game as Savoy and wow they are fun! It's really weird how the Pope immediately joins the Empire and then shadow kingdom happens and everyone italian but me (bc Austria is my big strong friend) and the Pope leaves, and then some of them join back up. The Pope in particular seems like he should be really, really difficult to get in instead of him just doing it voluntarily.
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Jun 10, 2020 00:21
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in eu5 i would like a camera with pitch control
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So the subjugation CB you can get on Naples as the Pope is huge trap right? Because I've tried a couple times and the coalition that comes down on you if you actually subjugate Naples is pretty heinous.
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