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Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Punkin Spunkin posted:

This is some sovcit guy for sure but i dont care, lord this channel is a thing of beauty
https://youtu.be/_tC8nYrO7yA

I get a similar stress reaction when I see him bullying officers to when I see officers bullying people, but sometimes it's really funny.

This one in particular:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r55BFO9ZVaM

Dr. Arbitrary has issued a correction as of 09:04 on Jun 9, 2020

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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/REALpunknews/status/1270007806305976323?s=20

Yestermoment
Jul 27, 2007


I didn't recognize the poster, but knew it was too good to be true.

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

https://twitter.com/paddyraffcomedy/status/1269987204576788486

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

https://twitter.com/AndrewProjDent/status/1270023344491020291

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Yestermoment posted:

I didn't recognize the poster, but knew it was too good to be true.

hard times is a poster you should know. they can go toe to toe w the onion

alternative farts
Jun 12, 2018


This guy owns
https://twitter.com/leegunwoo98/status/1270153031661703169?s=20

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lmao

https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/1270308564607938566?s=20

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I get a similar stress reaction when I see him bullying officers to when I see officers bullying people, but sometimes it's really funny.

This one in particular:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r55BFO9ZVaM

lol @ the detective impotently telling him to leave a municipally owned property

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
We know that our AI software is going to make a mistake, but we can't prevent it, only change it once it's already finished.

- Not a science fiction plot line

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Samurai Sanders posted:

We know that our AI software is going to make a mistake, but we can't prevent it, only change it once it's already finished.

- Not a science fiction plot line

I'm detecting a whole new job market here.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
lol they fired all of their human editors when they transitioned over to that thing

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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change my name
Aug 27, 2007

Legends die but anime is forever.

RIP The Lost Otakus.

https://twitter.com/SamAdlerBell/status/1270211926686158849

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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https://twitter.com/Hooters/status/1270048380140621825?s=20

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/PeonFlux/status/1270193478333579264?s=20

Giga Gaia
May 2, 2006

360 kickflip to... Meteo?!

:getin:

Mao Zedong Thot
Oct 16, 2008


Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I get a similar stress reaction when I see him bullying officers to when I see officers bullying people, but sometimes it's really funny.

This one in particular:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r55BFO9ZVaM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMe3uHsd-Bk Is a pretty funny channel too. Extremely insufferable person uses powers + privilege for good(?)

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Samurai Sanders posted:

We know that our AI software is going to make a mistake, but we can't prevent it, only change it once it's already finished.

- Not a science fiction plot line

Its pretty much the plot of The Machine That Won The War, which is honestly one of the most prophetic Asimov stories

Koishi Komeiji
Mar 30, 2003



https://twitter.com/PSBurton/status/1270054352678457344
:laugh:

Sylink
Apr 17, 2004

Antonymous posted:

artists, actors and other talent who get paid for their unique skill or idea directly are probably the one exception to capitalist production that can get filthy rich without exploitation, though obviously film, TV, music are as exploitative as any industry. JK rowling does benefit as a capitalist from toys and games and whatever else in that realm.

iirc even in the soviet union writer and poet were probably the highest paid position in society, though you had to join a guild to officially be a writer you couldn't just quit your day job and write.

it's actually a good question for both bourgeois econ and marxist econ why adam sandler gets $20mil / film and keeps getting it. That's gotta be tough to explain.


They aren't different. An idea is just an idea. You can write the best book ever, but are you gonna go out, run a paper mill (and managed a forest to log for paper), run and manage the printing presses etc?

There is labor being exploited along the way that is required for their existence. A rich actor can't act without the teams of other artists to support them and so on. Its a grift/myth individuals use to maintain the myth they are not replaceable and consolidate wealth. To a certain extent, this is true, but not 100 millions of dollars true.

Same for Rowling, sure if she had self published maybe. But endless merchandising and print requires a lot of labor to produce and sell that she certainly did not do.

Tempora Mutantur
Feb 22, 2005


hell yes came here to post this

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

quote:

What Thirlwall could not have known, according to sources at the company, is that the image was selected by Microsoft’s artificial intelligence software, which is already responsible for editing parts of the news site, which attracts hundreds of millions of readers worldwide.

this seems like a really generous way to say "hundreds of millions of people dont know how to change their internet explorer home page"

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

lol

Koishi Komeiji
Mar 30, 2003



https://twitter.com/MichaelBarden8/status/1270250771024470017
Antifa debit cards are real. There is no way this is fake :colbert:

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Koishi Komeiji posted:

https://twitter.com/MichaelBarden8/status/1270250771024470017
Antifa debit cards are real. There is no way this is fake :colbert:

They are real in that you can buy them, but they are just sold to raise money for anti-nazi programs

change my name
Aug 27, 2007

Legends die but anime is forever.

RIP The Lost Otakus.

Going to get my BOFA visa card change to read ANTIFA on it, they don't really check the images

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



ANTIFA Deez nuts

change my name
Aug 27, 2007

Legends die but anime is forever.

RIP The Lost Otakus.

https://twitter.com/bijanstephen/status/1270416808802164739

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

ASK ME ABOUT MY
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https://twitter.com/ShadowPowerup/status/1270325113649532930?s=20

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

Koishi Komeiji
Mar 30, 2003



cool dance moves
Aug 27, 2018



Even goons have a place in the revolution :haibrow:

Koishi Komeiji
Mar 30, 2003



In case anygoon is in the market for a new av:

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
https://twitter.com/dhm/status/1270409770139254786

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1270464383165087745?s=20

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012



Piers Morgan doing his "every 6 months I will actually for once act like a real human with morals and reason" routine again I see

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
she owns

https://twitter.com/noahtoly/status/1269340349190811648?s=20

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

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Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Sylink posted:

They aren't different. An idea is just an idea. You can write the best book ever, but are you gonna go out, run a paper mill (and managed a forest to log for paper), run and manage the printing presses etc?

There is labor being exploited along the way that is required for their existence. A rich actor can't act without the teams of other artists to support them and so on. Its a grift/myth individuals use to maintain the myth they are not replaceable and consolidate wealth. To a certain extent, this is true, but not 100 millions of dollars true.

Same for Rowling, sure if she had self published maybe. But endless merchandising and print requires a lot of labor to produce and sell that she certainly did not do.

Obviously you have to break it down. Rowling does not own or run a book binding business, and I don't know exactly how it the book industry works but I'm guessing the publisher does not either and will make those contracts and negotiate those prices. Is Rowling making rent from her publisher and book binder due to her getting royalties from the story they are printing? Traditionally the publisher would be the capitalist, compensating the writer less than the labor time spent making the work, and profiting off of that, much like any artist who labors for their patron. It is assumed JK Rowling makes 15% off of each book sold, it just so happens that they've sold about 9 billion dollars worth of books. There's some other use values to having a physical book, like how it presents on your shelf if you put it up as decoration, but I cannot find an easy way to say that Rowling's writing isn't the main use value created and put to sale, that it isn't from her own labor alone. That's why I wrote ebook, so we can maybe ignore the artist who drew the cover and the labor and capital from printing a book.

But elsewhere it's hard to apply in a space where the work performed isn't 100% interchangeable and floating in a competitive market. I see intellectual property is a kind of private property, i.e. capital that does divert value away from those who create it, though the way it does this is a little obscure. The films, the games, the toys and bedsheets and so on - here to me she's clearly a capitalist, and the intellectual property of Harry Potter is being used as capital and siphoning off labor from society. I think marx's theory for what defines the capitalist era is mass production of identical goods, labor which is de jure free to negotiate and associate and not tied to land, and so on. But a key thing is that 'Tom Cruise' is not a reproducible good, nor is the story of Harry Potter, and that's where you'd need a real marxist economist to figure out mathematically, structurally what's going on.

As I recall Marx himself has virutally nothing to say about artist labor or intellectual property. Grundrisse says actors do no perform productive labor simply by making a play, but my making a play that returns more money to the theater owner than they are compensated. I think that's a point to the publisher being the capitalist, not Rowling. As far as intellectual property, he says that capitalism has constrained itself by universally measuring value as labor time and that this value and system of exploitation will apply to things which cannot logically be measured this way in order to keep the system consistent, as an example he mentioned science and social intercourse taking on value forms. I think you can easily make the jump that when ideas become factors of production legally guarded as private property it's obvious they are functioning as capital, I'm just having trouble seeing selling your direct labor for 15% of returns as immediately the same thing.

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