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Bob Morales posted:A magazine company not giving raises in this day and age? Especially during a nationwide pandemic? How surprising. How do you just keep getting worse and worse?
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Jun 10, 2020 10:03
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https://mobile.twitter.com/eatgordaeat/status/1269329628658712576 More messages in a tweet right after that one. Messages between him and the person who proposed a Puerto Rican recipe for print. He's explaining why they won't run it in pretty fair terms and acknowledging they don't do as much as some people would like. The writer is kind of being pushy about it "that's labor for y'all to do", especially as a cold pitch He's being pretty fair and straight with her. Bob Morales fucked around with this message at 10:31 on Jun 10, 2020 |
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Jun 10, 2020 10:09
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"The first Puerto Rican food columnist in the country" That's a hell of a claim, lady.
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Jun 10, 2020 10:17
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Bob Morales posted:A magazine company not giving raises in this day and age? Especially during a nationwide pandemic? How surprising. so A: The only black employees at BA was Rapoport's assistant who B: was paid 35k and did not receive a raise during her 2 year 9 month tenure as his assistant despite C: being made to do personal errands that were outside of her job description and answering weekend text despite HR reprimanding Rapoport and telling him to knock it off and your response is "ugh that happens everywhere why is she complaining?" I'm impressed, I've never seen someone lick boot so hard it ended in their colon
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Jun 10, 2020 10:23
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DC Murderverse posted:so Did you also see where I said she shouldn't be doing work on the weekends? Have you ever watched a BA video? There are clearly other black employees there. Is it not public knowledge that most jobs in the magazine industry don't pay well? Someone on Twitter said "15 years experience deserves more than 50k". Ummm... welcome to the food/restaurant industry buddy. I like Sohla, they had started to show more of her recently. I always wondered how much they made from videos vs print. A million YouTube views are worth what, a couple thousand bucks at the most? They have a whole crew filming, offices in the WTC, wouldn't be surprised if the budgets are pretty tight. I know they spend days shooting the Ones Claire does recreating commercial foods.
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Jun 10, 2020 10:30
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Man you’d better stop, your colon can only take so much
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Jun 10, 2020 10:34
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Nobody has reached out to Rhoda, who is in charge of BA's video department? Her instagram hasn't had anything new in a while and she doesn't appear to have Twitter
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Jun 10, 2020 10:40
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Guys it’s cool now, Bon Appetit is cool now
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Jun 10, 2020 12:00
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What happened to that goon that worked there anyway?
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Jun 10, 2020 12:01
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Bob Morales posted:Nobody has reached out to Rhoda, who is in charge of BA's video department? You seem upset they wouldnt accept your article on the price vs value of boot
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Jun 10, 2020 14:23
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Here's my last post for a while. Everything 's been crazy this year and having BA on Youtube was one thing that I liked being able to tune into every couple days. So it's a big deal if they're not going to put out any content for a while. I really like Rick. I'm a Mexican-American, so I enjoy his Mexican recipes, seeing where they are similar and also different from what I grew up with. They did a video with Rick's dad, making refried beans. The recipe is here, I'm not sure where the video went, it's not on BA's site or YouTube that I can find. It was great. It reminded me a lot of cooking with my dad and my grandfather. Rick did videos with BA for carnitas, tamales, churros, and of course refried beans. He's the perfect person to do them. Not that anyone else couldn't do them (I'm sure Claire could knock out some churros), but if it makes me a racist rear end in a top hat to prefer that he does them, so be it. Rick is also gay. Not a fun position to be in when you have a hispanic background with the 'macho culture' and Catholic faith. The producers let him have his painted nails, and they let him do things like tie-dye cookies, which aren't Mexican in any way. I think that's great. Which brings me to my next point. As a brown skinned man, Rick is not pigeonholed into "only doing taco videos". Sure, he's done videos from Mexico, taquerias in Austin, along with the refried beans and homemade flour tortilla videos. But he's also done great videos on making a chocolate cake, apple pie, toffee cookies, cocktails, cider donuts, and even chicken scarpariello. So when other people come out and say things like "brown people aren't allowed to make white recipes at BA", and everyone flips their lid without even realizing it's not true, I get upset. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Bob Morales posted:Here's my last post for a while. Everything 's been crazy this year and having BA on Youtube was one thing that I liked being able to tune into every couple days. So it's a big deal if they're not going to put out any content for a while. why are you upset rob?
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Bob Morales posted:Here's my last post for a while. Everything 's been crazy this year and having BA on Youtube was one thing that I liked being able to tune into every couple days. So it's a big deal if they're not going to put out any content for a while. “As a Mexican-American man, Martinez felt compelled in his years on staff at Bon Appétit to keep producing food from his own ethnic background, even as he feared being "pigeon-holed" as someone who could only develop Latinx recipes. According to Martinez, Andrew Knowlton, then the deputy editor of Bon Appétit, once asked Martinez if he was "a one-trick pony" due to his focus on Mexican cuisine. Knowlton also told Martinez that his job developing Mexican recipes must have been easier due to his childhood eating his mother's cooking.”
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Jun 10, 2020 15:08
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Bob Morales posted:So now Sohla makes $60k and not $50k? Or she was hired at 50 and makes 60 after being there? Still peanuts in NYC but it's nice to see the number changing across different posts/articles She was hired at $50k and now makes $60k. Is that really that confusing? What are you gaining by jumping in here and being all "actually you're all being unfair to poor Conde loving Nast" or whatever
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Jun 10, 2020 15:09
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Fartington Butts posted:This is all getting delicious. ingredient thrower is Dan Siegel, a video director for Conde Nast lifestyle division videos. probably the same level in the hierarchy as Hunzi (It's Alive cameraman and director) Matt Duckor is a VP and head of programming for the lifestyle division. he's the one who signs the directors' checks and probably gets to decide who gets their own show/a lucrative Conde Nast Entertainment paycheck (as opposed to just being paid for test kitchen work, which was the crux of Sohla's allegations).
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Jun 10, 2020 15:15
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xtal posted:Is there something you'd like to confess? 
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Jun 10, 2020 15:27
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Bob Morales posted:words oh my god, if the people that you like are complaining that they're being treated badly, MAYBE LISTEN TO THEM INSTEAD OF JUST LICKING CORPORATE BOOT
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Jun 10, 2020 16:15
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Bob Morales posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/eatgordaeat/status/1269329628658712576 Man, this story she was pitching sounds amazing – it sucks that the only resp she gets on it is "if you want to pitch, pitch digital" and nothing else. 
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Jun 10, 2020 16:19
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The latest Babish (pastrami) reveals he has a whole house separate to his NY apartment??
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Jun 10, 2020 16:39
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The_Doctor posted:The latest Babish (pastrami) reveals he has a whole house separate to his NY apartment?? He just moved I think, so I'm guessing he's still in that process.
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Jun 10, 2020 16:44
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He recently bought a house. The apartment is probably just for production now.
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Jun 10, 2020 16:45
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Dang, he’s not doing badly then.
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Jun 10, 2020 16:50
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Democratic Pirate posted:“As a Mexican-American man, Martinez felt compelled in his years on staff at Bon Appétit to keep producing food from his own ethnic background, even as he feared being "pigeon-holed" as someone who could only develop Latinx recipes. According to Martinez, Andrew Knowlton, then the deputy editor of Bon Appétit, once asked Martinez if he was "a one-trick pony" due to his focus on Mexican cuisine. Knowlton also told Martinez that his job developing Mexican recipes must have been easier due to his childhood eating his mother's cooking.” To me, that reads more like Rick and other PoC on staff were less forced to do ethnic foods but fought to get them on the channel. Otherwise it would all be white bread clickbait. ^^^^Babish is holding on to the apartment for a month or two while the basement in the new house is renovated into a studio. Macdeo Lurjtux fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Jun 10, 2020 |
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Jun 10, 2020 17:14
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Yeah, Babish makes a lot on Patreon and gets a ton of views. He's doing very well for himself. Good for him, really.
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Jun 10, 2020 18:14
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Condé Nast is showing their anti BIPOC stances in the Pittsburgh gazette too fyi
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Jun 10, 2020 18:18
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Babish must be chomping at the bit for the rona to be ova so he can get a home owner tatt
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Jun 10, 2020 18:57
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you know in hindsight, it's kinda funny that for the first many years bon appetit were making their older style of video where chefs are just dryly doing a recipe in front of a camera. they were getting very few views, it wasn't engaging, no one really seemed to care about them. then at some point the test kitchen manager and a cameraman (vinny) decided to make a goofy personality-driven video where a guy is just winging his way through making fermented food. the company sits on the video for something like 2 years, until they finally release it, and then It's Alive is born, goes viral, causes the company to reinvent their whole online media strategy, probably greatly accelerated matt duckor's career, etc., and gets us in to the current mess about them not fairly paying personalities for video content. like the whole reason for bon appetit's recent success is because a test kitchen manager (not even an editor), a cameraman, and presumably a video director (hunzi, I'm not sure if he was on the project since day one) just decided to do their own thing, and from what I can tell had to drag the company in to even releasing the video. all those years of forgettable videos (which matt duckor seems to have been in charge of) and three random lower-level employees are the ones that found the secret to success. and now two of those employees have taken to social media to talk openly about how trash the company and leadership is https://twitter.com/matthunzi/status/1270067935961325571 https://twitter.com/VINCENT_CROSS/status/1270098620948209664
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Jun 10, 2020 19:47
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That one person in this thread shows how hard some people take it when entertainment they enjoy is threatened by the idea of treating people fairly
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Jun 10, 2020 20:16
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BA put out their apology. Ten years ago it would have been a pretty good apology but now... https://www.bonappetit.com/story/where-we-go-from-here
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Healthyish has one up too https://www.bonappetit.com/story/it-hasnt-been-enough
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Just saw this recent IG story from Andy:  EDIT: There are like 6 more pages, but the gist is that he has reached out to Delany and the other queer people at BA and is encouraging open dialogue. Fartington Butts fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Jun 10, 2020 |
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Jun 10, 2020 21:04
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Yeah people saying that Alex shouldn't be called out because we need worker solidarity are way off base.
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Jun 10, 2020 21:13
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Rapoport just digging further into the hole / doesn't understand how 'off the record' works. https://jezebel.com/read-some-conde..._source=twitter quote:Jezebel would accept that a source who doesn’t work in media might not know this and we would direct our reporting accordingly.
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Colonel Whitey posted:Yeah people saying that Alex shouldn't be called out because we need worker solidarity are way off base. Or now isn’t the time to make this about what 16 year olds said, and it really is about equality first
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Veskit posted:Or now isn’t the time to make this about what 16 year olds said, and it really is about equality first They're two kind of separate but kind of related issues. Andy's pain at hearing his colleague say a slur, no matter how long ago, can't just be ignored.
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Jun 10, 2020 21:20
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Jun 10, 2020 21:20
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more falafel please posted:When was this vine? Was it another thing from his teens? It was a vine sooooo....
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I don't know when the video was posted but vine was around 2013-2017. I have no idea how old Alex is, is he only like 23? He seems like he's around 30 or something.
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