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Cythereal posted:Dancer unlocks based on the plot, and it's a good thing to shove anyone who's not turning out well into. Any of the student characters (so not Catherine, Shamir, and I think Cyril, but Flayn can do it) can do it if they have 8 charm, which is doable for most of them. So if there's anyone you like but isn't pulling their weight and you still want to use them, make them your dancer. Flayn can do it, but if she should is an entirely different matter. I'm just saying this because a friend of mine made the mistake of making her a Dancer...while going for Crimson Flower. Big mistake. And I nearly did the same too, thankfully he made the mistake first. Tired Moritz posted:I hope in the next game, they nerf flyers to the ground. Or at least give them less ugly outfits Agreed. It's kind of absurd just how much better the flying classes are than every other class.
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Blaze Dragon posted:Flayn can do it, but if she should is an entirely different matter. My main reservation against making Flayn the dancer is that she, well, looks young. She's actually pretty well suited to it, though. She comes out of the box with more than enough Charm, she's a priest stock so she can provide some healing support when you don't need the dances, her personal trait continues to push her towards a support role, and dancer obviates her problems as a general unit (slow, lacks Physic). As the Deer, though, Lorenz is my usual pick for dancer. Guy just never seems to turn out very well, and he lives in a house filled with specialists.
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Jun 9, 2020 18:33
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Horses were made nearly worthless for what, Canto? No thanks
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Jun 9, 2020 20:02
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Shadow225 posted:Thanks for the replies everyone! I'll only quote one post because I'm on mobile. Especially on normal/casual, but even on hard/casual, I don't think you need to worry about optimal play, go with your heart and what is most fun to you. : )
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Jun 9, 2020 20:50
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Tired Moritz posted:I hope in the next game, they nerf flyers to the ground. Or at least give them less ugly outfits I love fliers, but their movement power makes them already strong enough they have no need to be as ridiculously op as they are in 3H. Not that I'm not enjoying my all flier maddening run.
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Jun 9, 2020 20:52
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Yeah if youre on normal its seriously not worrying about being the most optimal ever
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Jun 9, 2020 21:25
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Has anyone had an Ignatz that was good? I've tried using him twice and both times he was godawful to the point I couldn't justify using him for his intended purpose and just went back specced him into armor knight later as a defense adjutant so I can say I used everyone. He was a garbage Sniper compared to any other option, and a worse mage.
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Jun 9, 2020 21:30
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Ignatz gets break shot and seal strength, plus hit+20 so he's got a niche as a long range debuffer in Sniper or that plus thief in Sniper+Assassain He's also a decent support unit because he gets rally speed and rally strength. He can be an ok dancer as well. In my experience, he's never going to shine offensively, but he's definitely got a solid niche. edit: realized I didn't answer your actual question I have had Ignatzes that were quite valuable in the above roles (I actually ended up keeping him on my team through endgame in my first NG+ maddening run when I had planned on swapping him out), and I consider that good!
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Jun 9, 2020 21:35
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As an assassin he just decided to go off and proc Lethality on every other combat last time I did GD. I had really wanted to bench him for Ashe originally, but then he just would not stop murdering folks.
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Jun 9, 2020 21:40
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He held up for me through to RaD but got dropped because he just doesn't really compete with a lot of the recruits.
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Jun 9, 2020 21:46
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My first Ignatz I dropped because he was slumming it out with Lorenz in uselessness and only came back because I had no one else leveled and Break Shot could at least add 20 damage a few times. My second Ignatz I made a Trickster and he was decent at that since his spell list is decent but he still needed help damaging things. At least he could eat armors this time around. This is still better than Lorenz who still struggled to get above 20 SPD over three playthroughs. McTimmy fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Jun 9, 2020 |
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Jade Mage posted:Has anyone had an Ignatz that was good? I've tried using him twice and both times he was godawful to the point I couldn't justify using him for his intended purpose and just went back specced him into armor knight later as a defense adjutant so I can say I used everyone. He was a garbage Sniper compared to any other option, and a worse mage. Got one right now, had to babysit him for a long time and maybe I got blessed with growths but he's a monster, his natural hit+20 stacks with the one from archer, with a longbow or even just the +1 range from sniper he can hit literally everything. Love that kid Lorenz however is always garbage
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Assassin Ignatz with a Wo Dao+ and a Killer Bow wrecks everything that moves.
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Started this maybe a week ago. On chapter 10 with the Red Eagles. I haven't tried to recruit anyone from other houses, yet, (outside the other professors) because I've been so focused on ensuring my house's motivation remains peaked through lunches and gifts to maximize instruction sessions. So, I may be boning myself out of a lot of power? Bernie was my early game all-star. Archers seem to be stupid good, and the sheer number of casters I have access to is kind of nuts for an FE game. And I just realized that I missed level B with Rhea because I didn't bother checking my support link with her last month. >_> (I didn't bother to interact with her or Seth for a long while because it seemed pretty obvious that the Central Church are a bunch of psychopaths I'll eventually have to cleanse off this planet.  ) Maybe that was a mistake?
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AlternateNu posted:Started this maybe a week ago. On chapter 10 with the Red Eagles. How are your support levels with Edelgard and Hubert? You'll want to be sure to save at the start of chapter 11, there's an easily missed choice you can make that will affect the latter half of the game (and your subsequent enjoyment probably, going by your last couple comments)
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Your starting roster is designed such that you'll be fine even if you don't bother with the recruiting mechanic. Rhea's support level affects one decision on one route, so I wouldn't concern myself overmuch with it,
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Sudden Javelin posted:How are your support levels with Edelgard and Hubert? I'm at the "you must wait to further your relationship" point with basically everyone on my roster except Lindhardt. I looked up the NG+ mechanics and am I correct in assuming that if you purchase the support rank for someone not in your house who you ranked up in a previous playthrough, you'll be able to recruit them almost immediately?
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AlternateNu posted:I'm at the "you must wait to further your relationship" point with basically everyone on my roster except Lindhardt. The best advice is to make sure you've hit anywhere from C+ rank to A rank in a skill to recruit someone. This will give you enough room to at least get some right away and save time on the more difficult recruits. Some characters (like Felix and Dorothea) will require specific stats to be at a certain amount before being recruited, so be ready to potentially save scum or wait until you've built some initial support points before trying to poach students. AradoBalanga fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Jun 10, 2020 |
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Jun 10, 2020 01:39
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Once you reach support rank B with a student, there's a small chance that they'll randomly show up during lessons to ask to join your house, bypassing the ordinary stat requirement.
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and if you buy an a rank, you can bypass that too and recruit them regardless of your stats also there's no RNG in it at all, what are you talking about here's a page with all information about recruiting you might want: https://serenesforest.net/three-houses/characters/recruitment/
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Amppelix posted:and if you buy an a rank, you can bypass that too and recruit them regardless of your stats With the request to join your class with B rank there is.
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yeah i was talking about this part from AradoBalanga: "And even then, there's still an element of RNG to recruit someone. On my Blue Lions run, I had completely skipped any of Caspar's supports on my first playthrough, yet managed to recruit him with a C rank in Brawling and no support ranks with Caspar." turns out Caspar just wants C brawling and 10 strength. why did you think there was RNG involved?
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Amppelix posted:yeah i was talking about this part from AradoBalanga: "And even then, there's still an element of RNG to recruit someone. On my Blue Lions run, I had completely skipped any of Caspar's supports on my first playthrough, yet managed to recruit him with a C rank in Brawling and no support ranks with Caspar."
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ah, i see. well the pertinent point is that yes, you can ignore all the stat requirements with bought supports. with B rank the chance seems to be high enough that it'll happen within about a month usually, and you can also spend a bit more for an A and just get them instantly.
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I think on beagles route you'll want one person from another house to fill deployment limits on a couple maps? A flier would be good if you arent making petra one.
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If you are going Beagles it makes sense to grab Felix and Lysethia.
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I've always wondered what would happen if you hacked Flayn's charm base low enough to lose the White Heron Cup (bc she joins with enough of it to guarantee a win normally, and everyone else has unique monastery dialogue afterwards for losing), but I don't have the knowledge to set up something like that myself and I don't have enough twitter presence to be able to ask one of the experts about it and actually get a reply  also, re: Ignatz chat 
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Hunt11 posted:If you are going Beagles it makes sense to grab Felix and Lysethia. It always makes sense to grab Lysithia, just so you have a magic nuke on hand at all times.
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Hunt11 posted:If you are going Beagles it makes sense to grab Felix and Lysethia. Also Mercedes. And you should always grab Marianne, no matter what route you play on.
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Shadow225 posted:Thanks for the replies everyone! I'll only quote one post because I'm on mobile. One of the endgame classes is Great Knight, it requires Axe, Lance and Riding. Your Leonie might be a good fit for that. About replacing Lorenz, one thing you should be warned about is that all your initial students are required for one very difficult battle. If you neglect Lorenz, you might find yourself in a difficult situation. Make sure you keep him leveled even if you don't plan to take him through endgame.
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Honestly, you should buy skills instead of supports if you want to do recruitments because you also get an instruction bonus for the pain in the rear end skills like riding/armor/flying/authority and you can also skip talking to teachers to get your axe/reason up for death blow/fiendish blow if you want to pick up Hilda or Lorentz. That and buying your students' friendship is not cool.
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that assumes that you actually trained in those skills during a previous game though on your first NG+ you're definitely not going to have the all skills at C byleth
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Endorph posted:I think on beagles route you'll want one person from another house to fill deployment limits on a couple maps? A flier would be good if you arent making petra one. You can fill all the deployment slots with just your core students, teachers and knights on every route. It's maybe not ideal, but it's enough to get by on any non-Maddening difficulty.
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if you want to fill all adjutant slots you will need to poach some people though (including adjutants the maximum deployment limit in 3H is 15)
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The transition between accepting Ingrid's paralogue and the battle leaves a lot of questions. It goes from the monastery to "Well, now that we found evidence your suitor is corrupt here in this lava cave, let's go home."
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snoremac posted:The transition between accepting Ingrid's paralogue and the battle leaves a lot of questions. It goes from the monastery to "Well, now that we found evidence your suitor is corrupt here in this lava cave, let's go home." You'll eventually discover that the lava area in question is a volcanic crater on the border between the Kingdom and Alliance, and a popular place for meetings and transactions away from prying eyes. The location makes sense, the mission just doesn't explain it.
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that reminds me: in general the before battle-storytelling in 3H is super sparse for no apparent reason. like a pretty high number of the maps in the game begin with some sort of "ah, now let us see what is going on over there" dialogue, which immediately and very jarringly transitions to battle preparations with the enemy already in formation on the map. what happened to the part where your characters arrive on the soon-to-be battlefield, have a short conversation, and then all the enemies jump out from a pocket dimension?
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Cythereal posted:You'll eventually discover that the lava area in question is a volcanic crater on the border between the Kingdom and Alliance, and a popular place for meetings and transactions away from prying eyes. The location makes sense, the mission just doesn't explain it.
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So, I just got past the split in the Eagles route.  The hosed up part is I chose the path that apparently made me lose all the non-core units I was training except Shamir.  Edit: Oh wait. NM. I just lost Flayne. Still...she was my main ferry boat with access to 6 x Rescue. :/ AlternateNu fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Jun 10, 2020 |
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AlternateNu posted:So, I just got past the split in the Eagles route.
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