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Oh, Amazon's going to be nine hours late to drop off packages for last-mile service? Sure. edit: They showed up two hours late. Apparently a drunk guy tried to sneak onto the truck and they spent a bunch of time shooing them out. Okay. Star Man fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Jun 3, 2020 |
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Justus posted:lol, the job that wasn’t working out that I mentioned was at TYAD. That place is crazy to me! They treat employees like high schoolers, and as such most of the employees act like high schoolers - sullenly obsequious and cliquey. There’s a bell that rings to indicate the start and end of each day, and you’re expected at your station for each with no flexibility. First line supervisors act like hall monitors and make sure no one’s wandering around before the bell. Despite being in the snowy Poconos, the place doesn’t close down even in two feet of snow. Lots of people drive the evening before an overnight storm and sleep in their cars in the parking lot. lol glad to hear TYAD hasn't changed. I worked there over a decade ago, and this all sounds about how I remember. I wasn't involved with the union since I was a contractor, but the hall monitor treatment was VERY real. It took me almost three years to get away, but I am very, very glad I did.
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Justus posted:e: I was enjoying that NYC locality despite paying less than $900 a month for a generous two br apartment, so that’s real. Even that was tainted by the fact that they brought me on as an electronics engineer from an 11/12 listing, and I found out about three months in that the -12 was NOT automatically granted after a year, and then they laughed in my face when I tried to ask what it would take to earn the -12. I got the -13 within a few years of the transfer to Aberdeen proving ground.
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ilkhan posted:Are those ladder listings ever automatic? In my little egg related corner of the government, all ladder promotions are automatic for 5/7/8, 11/12, or 12/13 roles unless you done hosed up
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ilkhan posted:Are those ladder listings ever automatic? On paper, I've been seeing wording that says they are performance based and not automatic or guaranteed. In practice, at least in my agency, you have to be a catastrophic gently caress up to not get your grade up. Your supervisor writes a memo, or you write a memo and the supervisor puts their name on it, and then you've got your increase within two pay periods. Submit it early and you might actually see it the pay period you would have earned it. As with anything in the gov YMMV.
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ixo posted:In my little egg related corner of the government, all ladder promotions are automatic for 5/7/8, 11/12, or 12/13 roles unless you done hosed up Yeah, ours are essentially guaranteed too. 7/9/11 is really common. 11/12 slightly less so.
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I rode an auto 5/12 ladder.
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TheMadMilkman posted:I rode an auto 5/12 ladder.  NO I mean, good for you. I think more jobs should be like that, honestly, though admittedly that is motivated in my case by the absurdity of 5s and 12s doing the exact same work at USCIS I know one person who started at a 5 in March? 2015 and is a 13 now (with two formal promotions to accompany the three automatic ladder increases). That is the kind of rapid rise they told us was in store for all of us when we were in training. I mean, I figured they were lying, and they certainly were for those of us who never made it past the 9 we started at, but to be fair it is actually possible, albeit shocking. I asked if I could just sign a lifetime commitment to the agency in exchange for that promotion to 11 but apparently the government does not always work like a pact with the devil So that this is not just me making fun of USCIS again, does anyone here work for FEMA? I got an "are you still interested in this posting?" e-mail from them in April and I was just wondering if I should read into that or if it is just as inscrutable as any other agency
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IRS is announcing a bunch of openings for the next wave of TCOs; you can ignore my kibitzing about the position, it's just not a good fit for someone with my stress level.
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Discendo Vox posted:IRS is announcing a bunch of openings for the next wave of TCOs; you can ignore my kibitzing about the position, it's just not a good fit for someone with my stress level. TCOs?
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Discendo Vox posted:IRS is announcing a bunch of openings for the next wave of TCOs; you can ignore my kibitzing about the position, it's just not a good fit for someone with my stress level. Are these listed as "Tax Specialist" on usajobs? Seems like it from the description. If someone entered at GS 5, any idea how quickly they might move up? BigDave posted:TCOs? Tax Compliance Officer. Basically an entry level auditor. Contrast with Revenue Agents, who handle more complex cases and have a higher pay scale. At least that's my simplified understanding. Feel free to correct me.
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incogneato posted:Are these listed as "Tax Specialist" on usajobs? Seems like it from the description. If someone entered at GS 5, any idea how quickly they might move up? As a recent college graduate, I am intrigued. Tell me more about this TCO job.
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incogneato posted:Are these listed as "Tax Specialist" on usajobs? Seems like it from the description. If someone entered at GS 5, any idea how quickly they might move up? I don't know about this position, but in general: after a year at GS5, you'll qualify for a career-ladder grade increase, and you'll be qualified for GS6 internal openings. Assume a year a grade for IRS ladder jobs.
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Discendo Vox posted:IRS is announcing a bunch of openings for the next wave of TCOs; you can ignore my kibitzing about the position, it's just not a good fit for someone with my stress level. Though something tells me this would be another sure-fire way to stay a 9 For Life, haha
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Antivehicular posted:I don't know about this position, but in general: after a year at GS5, you'll qualify for a career-ladder grade increase, and you'll be qualified for GS6 internal openings. Assume a year a grade for IRS ladder jobs. GS5 is criminally low pay even by the most bumfuck Mississippi or Louisian cost of living standards. They seriously can't expect people to stay at that level for more than a year.
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Antivehicular posted:I don't know about this position, but in general: after a year at GS5, you'll qualify for a career-ladder grade increase, and you'll be qualified for GS6 internal openings. Assume a year a grade for IRS ladder jobs. For the IRS you would qualify for GS-7 internals. We skip 6, 8 and 10 for almost every job series.
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A few hundred hours of OT makes GS5 pay quite a bit more tolerable. The core of my office is a pair each of GS5s and GS6s.
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BigDave posted:As a recent college graduate, I am intrigued. Tell me more about this TCO job. Basically you call people up, tell them to come down to your office, and have them prove the expenses they claimed on their tax returns. Of course there's more to it, you've got to do research, write a report justifying your decisions, etc, etc, but basically you're going to be telling people that they owe the IRS $20,000, have a nice day. It's not for everyone, but it's a good stepping stone for revenue agents (telling someone they owe $100,000), revenue officers (knocking on people's doors asking for $100,000) and other positions within the IRS. As far as applying for the job is concerned, having a basic understanding of accounting is helpful; either from a class or you can test out of it. Also, as a recent college grad, you should be on the lookout for positions that are limited to recent college grads. A bunch of the ROs that just got hired in my office were all recent college grads. TheMadMilkman posted:For the IRS you would qualify for GS-7 internals. We skip 6, 8 and 10 for almost every job series. Not for CSRs! They are 5/6/7/8.
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The TCO position is also distinct from RO and RA jobs in that the caseload is much heavier and the time pressures more severe. The cases aren't necessarily less complex (although they're supposed to be), and a TCO is generally expected to be juggling around 35 audits at any given time, minimum. TCOs are also subject to different, much more burdensome timekeeping and reporting requirements, and fits into one of the gaps where they're subject to especially messy, ill-maintained parts of IRS infrastructure. As someone who really feels any small error they make, it's a terrible fit. The thing that absolutely stuns me about all of these IRS auditing jobs is that this is frequently a set of work tasks that you'd be required to have a law or accountancy professional degree for outside the IRS, and the standard of performance/rigor is very, very high. The fact that someone can do it GS-5 is bonkers, from both a training and a pay perspective.
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"Position: TAX EXAMINING TECHNICIAN Determination: Application Received Thank you for your interest in employment with the Internal Revenue Service. The purpose of this notice is to inform you that your application for the above position was received. Based upon your on-line questions responses, your application is suitable for further review. Upon further review of your application and qualifications, you will be contacted regarding your eligibility. You will be receiving correspondence via e-mail or by telephone, informing you of the next step of the application process." This is good right?
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BigDave posted:"Position: TAX EXAMINING TECHNICIAN It's progress; it means you passed the automated filter so you'll get at least one real person to look at it.
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Tax Examining Technician does correspondence exams, and are only at the campuses; so you'll be reviewing documents mailed to you. Workloads are even higher, I suspect.
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sullat posted:Tax Examining Technician does correspondence exams, and are only at the campuses; so you'll be reviewing documents mailed to you. Workloads are even higher, I suspect. Yes, but also less in-depth, generally speaking. People I know who have worked both office and correspondence exam have pretty much all preferred correspondence.
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welp, looks like i'll be recalled next week in the next irs reopening batch. can't wait to catch the roni lol
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I learned the other day that as a PSE, I can't just transfer to a different post office after a year. I would need to be a part-time flexible before transferring is even possible. Is it unheard of for non-contract postal employees like PSEs to have an easier time getting started in a career-tract job in the federal government, even if it's just some GS-5 position?
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Star Man posted:I learned the other day that as a PSE, I can't just transfer to a different post office after a year. I would need to be a part-time flexible before transferring is even possible. Is it unheard of for non-contract postal employees like PSEs to have an easier time getting started in a career-tract job in the federal government, even if it's just some GS-5 position? Nothing is impossible. Just have to do smart research and rewrite your resume to have a narrative for your targeted series and agency. I would start by researching what positions are available in your preferred geographic location.
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Interviewed for an ARS position! But Covid is making the timeline ~TBD~ gently caress!
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Star Man posted:I learned the other day that as a PSE, I can't just transfer to a different post office after a year. I would need to be a part-time flexible before transferring is even possible. Is it unheard of for non-contract postal employees like PSEs to have an easier time getting started in a career-tract job in the federal government, even if it's just some GS-5 position? Nothing is out of the question in regards to gov hiring. Check out jobs like Legal Administrative Specialist, Legal Instruments Examiner and Contact Representative. Those jobs usually have a 5/7/9 ladder you can hop onto. Put a big emphasis on your customer service skills on your resume for those jobs.
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I sort mail and packages. I don't talk to customers at all.
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Star Man posted:I sort mail and packages. I don't talk to customers at all. imaginary customer service
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Like think how much you are helping customers by sorting their mail in a quick, efficient, and highly accurate manner! 
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The federal application process exists to be gamed as hard as humanly possible FYI. Barring the grotesquely overqualified this is how most people get on board. Most people who aren't part of the mil-civ pipeline anyway.
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The U.S. Federal Government Jobs Megathread: Always Answer (E)
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Kolodny posted:The U.S. Federal Government Jobs Megathread: Always Answer (E) 
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I got accepted for a GS-5 IRS position that had closed up in May with intent for a June hiring. I still haven't have my background check completed after 3(?) weeks. Meanwhile, Ft. Hamilton picked me up as a GS-7 Engineer in their own ladder position and it requires a Secret Clearance. How long does a Secret Clearance background check normally take? I may have to move back in with my parents while I wait for it to complete.
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Xelkelvos posted:I got accepted for a GS-5 IRS position that had closed up in May with intent for a June hiring. I still haven't have my background check completed after 3(?) weeks. Meanwhile, Ft. Hamilton picked me up as a GS-7 Engineer in their own ladder position and it requires a Secret Clearance. How long does a Secret Clearance background check normally take? I may have to move back in with my parents while I wait for it to complete. Usually you don't need the full thing completed, they give you an interim. I would ask them.
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Also DCSA has gotten their backlog of cases way down so new T5s are often only taking a month or two depending on discrepancies etc.
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I also just finished an interview with the Patent Office (who're apparently in need of folks to take care of some of their increased workload) and I'm crossing my fingers for them saying yes.Rakeris posted:Also DCSA has gotten their backlog of cases way down so new T5s are often only taking a month or two depending on discrepancies etc. I assume there's probably a difference in priority for checks for Treasury/IRS and DoD, but the HR person from the IRS basically told me there would be a delay due to Covid (it turns out I had only finished my fingerprinting for the IRS position only 2 weeks ago. I thought it was longer ago)
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