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Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
That's more like a typical staple of US cops.

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Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

The White Dragon posted:

i hate that spam has become some kind of luxury demand item that costs $5 to the can

it's a peasant food because the peasantry is supposed to be able to afford it, a decade ago you couldn't buy it for more than 50c a tin

i can't remember a time when spam wasn't surprisingly expensive

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Yeah my theory is Spam went upmarket after the internet made it a "thing".

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Actual Spam instead of Korean knockoff Spam is high dollar poo poo in Korea. You see gift packs of it around Chuseok.

A lot of China is reversing on street vendors and encouraging them again so I wonder if the Chengguan are just going to be extorting them for money or sent to beat up some other old people elsewhere.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Whatever you do, don't look at the nutrition label on a can of spam.

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018

Here's some context on Chengguan :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWLPpbGtpS0

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Grand Fromage posted:

Actual Spam instead of Korean knockoff Spam is high dollar poo poo in Korea. You see gift packs of it around Chuseok.

A lot of China is reversing on street vendors and encouraging them again so I wonder if the Chengguan are just going to be extorting them for money or sent to beat up some other old people elsewhere.

can they not make perfectly good asslip meat?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Alan Smithee posted:

can they not make perfectly good asslip meat?

I only tried it once that I know of and it was disgustingly sweet, because Korea.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Grand Fromage posted:

I only tried it once that I know of and it was disgustingly sweet, because Korea.

Does Korea have unusually high diabete rate like China?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


stephenthinkpad posted:

Does Korea have unusually high diabete rate like China?

I dunno if it's unusually high but it's increased rapidly. They're aggressive about screening for it though, even in the elementary I worked at the kids would be tested regularly at school. But yeah a lot of modern Korean food uses truly mind-blowing amounts of sugar and syrups, even from a US point of view, so it's getting out of control.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
god i love kbbq marinades though

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Koreans consume processed fine sugar like they consume Christanity...

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Grand Fromage posted:

Actual Spam instead of Korean knockoff Spam is high dollar poo poo in Korea. You see gift packs of it around Chuseok.

A lot of China is reversing on street vendors and encouraging them again so I wonder if the Chengguan are just going to be extorting them for money or sent to beat up some other old people elsewhere.

Why did they start/stop suppressing them to begin with? Them not being 'modern' enough for the new china then them suddenly being a integral part of chinese identity?

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Because if there's one lot of people who've always got plenty of cash in hand for spot bribes, it's the street vendors.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Nothingtoseehere posted:

Why did they start/stop suppressing them to begin with? Them not being 'modern' enough for the new china then them suddenly being a integral part of chinese identity?

Something like that. A lot of cities in East and Southeast Asia are trying to/have gotten rid of street vendors because the technocrats have no idea what people like and think it makes them look primitive, rather than being a core part of the community. Same logic as bulldozing human-scale neighborhoods to replace them with modern high rise complexes that look impressive but destroy the life of the neighborhood.

As for why they suddenly reversed, I'm not sure. The article I saw about Chengdu doing so mentioned how it created 100,000 jobs overnight, and the fact that they just reversed course so suddenly in the past month or two makes me think it may be an emergency thing to try to prop up the economy.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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street food is like a core part of modern urban identity and it's mind-blowing that the CCP apparently doesn't realize this

they want to make New York without actually bothering to look at New York beyond Midtown Manhattan's skyline

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


It's not really a CCP problem, it's Asian technocrats in general. Even Bangkok is trying to get rid of street food last I read which is loving wild.

And it's not like this is just poo poo Tourists Like it's the foundation of the entire community. Street life is one of the great things in Asia that we mostly lack in the US.

E: This aspect of the Chengguan isn't just China either, at one point (dunno if it's still happening) the Seoul government was hiring literal mobsters to go out with sledgehammers and bust up street stalls and beat the old people running them half to death.

Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Jun 11, 2020

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Nothingtoseehere posted:

Why did they start/stop suppressing them to begin with? Them not being 'modern' enough for the new china then them suddenly being a integral part of chinese identity?

They were suppressing them before Covid, post Covid they got new assignment to "develop 5 new street vendors each". This is not a joke either.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Grand Fromage posted:

As for why they suddenly reversed, I'm not sure. The article I saw about Chengdu doing so mentioned how it created 100,000 jobs overnight, and the fact that they just reversed course so suddenly in the past month or two makes me think it may be an emergency thing to try to prop up the economy.

Yeah, this is it. Li Keqiang just came out and encouraged people to go sell poo poo on the street a little bit ago because the economy got dumped on and people are out of work. Pretty much overnight that went from just words to actual policy.

People I've talked to about it think it's kinda goofy, cuz there's no demand for half the stuff being sold out there especially the way the economy is, but whatever people are out there so some people must think it's a good idea.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
I wish street food was more of a thing in NZ - sausage sizzles and the white van are great, but...

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

Grand Fromage posted:

It's not really a CCP problem, it's Asian technocrats in general. Even Bangkok is trying to get rid of street food last I read which is loving wild.

And it's not like this is just poo poo Tourists Like it's the foundation of the entire community. Street life is one of the great things in Asia that we mostly lack in the US.

E: This aspect of the Chengguan isn't just China either, at one point (dunno if it's still happening) the Seoul government was hiring literal mobsters to go out with sledgehammers and bust up street stalls and beat the old people running them half to death.

read J Scotts "Seeing Like A State"

basically if its not written down it doesnt exist to a bureaucrat and many bureaucrats are willing and able to make things that are not written down disappear so that the written down things are true

street vendoring is basically an illiterate profession

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

WarpedNaba posted:

I wish street food was more of a thing in NZ - sausage sizzles and the white van are great, but...

i would never get food from a white van personally

The junk collector
Aug 10, 2005
Hey do you want that motherboard?

Alan Smithee posted:

i would never get food from a white van personally

Some of the best food I've ever eaten came from highly questionable white vans (and the occasional motor home)

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

For Shanghai anyway they were talking about relaxing rules on street vendors last year. Covid kinda jumpstarted everything.

Shanghai was probably the most strict on removing street vendors but you still saw a lot, normally kinda down less-traveled alleys and in the gates of xiaoqus. Locals like them so you'd someone coming to warn everyone when the chengguan would be coming by.

When I worked in Chengdu around my office building every morning would be tons of street vendors. I guess everyone had kind of an agreement cuz around 845 or 9am or so theyd all start packing up and running inside as the chengguan came by, at the same time every morning right AFTER the breakfast rush hour.

street food rules so im happy for this change.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


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fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
Bangkok has been really schizophrenic about street food and vendors for awhile. It started as a push to get rid of the tacky as hell merchants selling fake viagra, dildos, tasers, and switch blades along Sukvumvit Road in the tourist areas because they totally blocked all foot traffic after about 6pm. Then the ordinance was applied to all street vendors, including popular food stalls that literally fed the community, on main roads. I think they've cooled down a bit about it and food stalls are allowed to operate so long as they are not on the main streets and don't block foot traffic.

People forget that the average Thai home basically doesn't have a kitchen. They have a small fridge maybe, a hot plate, and a kettle and that's about all there's room for. There are people who literally eat out every meal because they don't have any other choice.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Magna Kaser posted:

For Shanghai anyway they were talking about relaxing rules on street vendors last year. Covid kinda jumpstarted everything.

Shanghai was probably the most strict on removing street vendors but you still saw a lot, normally kinda down less-traveled alleys and in the gates of xiaoqus. Locals like them so you'd someone coming to warn everyone when the chengguan would be coming by.

When I worked in Chengdu around my office building every morning would be tons of street vendors. I guess everyone had kind of an agreement cuz around 845 or 9am or so theyd all start packing up and running inside as the chengguan came by, at the same time every morning right AFTER the breakfast rush hour.

street food rules so im happy for this change.

In Guangzhou they have a I guess free for all night market on the yuexiu bridge before 7am(?). I can't remember whether it was for every night or weekend night only. People would bring insane things to sell, like literally 2 pairs of slightly used leather shoes.

https://imgur.com/gallery/lnX4O2V

stephenthinkpad fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Jun 11, 2020

url
Apr 23, 2007

internet gnuru

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/gBsJwO39saXgWhmqnIJYMQ posted:

Chinese women 'should be allowed to have multiple husbands'

BILLIE THOMSON PandaGuides






China has too many unmarried men due to its severe gender imbalance: 30million by 2050 to be exact.


And one professor has called on authorities to consider letting women have two or more husbands at the same time to help resolve the long-standing social issue.


Prof Yew-Kwang Ng, a 77-year-old economist, said that his proposition could be a way to help the nation's army of bachelors find their better half as well as happiness.





Prof Ng, a Special Chair Professor at the School of Economics of Fudan University, stressed that single Chinese men would have more and more difficulties in securing an ideal partner in the coming years due to growing competition.




Prof Yew-Kwang Ng



Unwed middle-aged men would have to compete with much younger rivals to win the heart of a limited pool of single women, the Malaysia-born expert said. 


'[If a man's] natural biological and psychological needs cannot be met appropriately, it will certainly bring a substantial negative impact on his happiness,' Prof Ng noted in an opinion piece published on June 2 through popular Chinese outlet NetEase.  


In the column, he put forward two possible solutions. 


One is the legalisation of prostitution, and the other is polyandry, a form of polygamy that allows a woman to take two or more lawful husbands.


Neither practice is permitted by Chinese law.


Prof Ng said while prostitutes might satisfy men's urgent biological needs, they would not be able to provide life companionship as wives would.





'If it weren't for the serious imbalance of the male and female ratio, I would not think of polyandry at all,' he argued. 


'Secondly, I do not promote or encourage polyandry. I only think that faced with [the problem of having] more men and fewer women, [the government] may perhaps consider polyandry.'


He suggested that many men, such as him, would agree to share a wife with others than running the risk of having no wife at all.


Prof Ng is not the first expert who has come up with unconventional ideas to help unmarried Chinese find their significant other.





Mao Shoulong, a renowned scholar, said in 2017 that the government should allow more foreign women to live in the country in the hope that some of them would end up marrying its 'leftover men'. 


He wrote: 'It could be an advisable tactic to aptly improve the reformation of the immigration policy and let more foreign women come to live and work in China to relieve the "bachelor crisis".' 


Traditionally, baby boys are preferred by Chinese parents because of their ability to carry forward the family name.


Decades of illegal baby gender selection, prompted by the one-child policy, has caused the country to suffer from a severe gender gap.


The gender ratio between baby boys and baby girls has reached 1.3 to 1 at its highest.


Around 15 million Chinese men between the ages of 35 and 59 won't be able to find a wife by 2020 and by 2050 the number could be nearly 30million, it is estimated. 


Many Chinese bachelors, mostly from southern China, have paid high prices to marry Vietnamese women after failing to find a Chinese partner, prompting human-trafficking concerns.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Well, either the benevolent party finds a way to get those men butchered, or we're going to see a slave trade that makes the Abbasid caliphate look like a Swedish exchange centre.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

quote:

Traditionally, baby boys are preferred by Chinese parents because of their ability to carry forward the family name.

This is pretty funny considering that according to the Chinese Ministry for Public Security there are 6,150 different surnames in China, with the top 100 surnames used by 85% of the population in 2018.

In comparison, from the 2000 US Census, 17.11% of Americans have a surname among the top 100, while 13.97% of Americans have a surname which occurs fewer than 100 times in the entire population.

HerStuddMuffin
Aug 10, 2014

YOSPOS
I love the for the love of god will someone think of the men undertones in that article.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



HerStuddMuffin posted:

I love the for the love of god will someone think of the men undertones in that article.

Well it's too late to think of all the baby girls who got murdered, err, "illegally gender selected".

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen
China y/n?

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010




no y

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

correct

Shadow0
Jun 16, 2008


If to live in this style is to be eccentric, it must be confessed that there is something good in eccentricity.

Grimey Drawer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyandry?wprov=sfla1

Apparently it's popular in Tibet. Looks like Tibetian culture may live on in China after all.

HerStuddMuffin posted:

I love the for the love of god will someone think of the men undertones in that article.

I don't understand this post. The article focuses on a specific part of a problem and gives some proposed solutions.

Shadow0 fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Jun 12, 2020

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀



hey, it worked in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

exmachina
Mar 12, 2006

Look Closer

Mr. Fix It posted:

hey, it worked in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

Dammit beaten

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Heinlein also purposed a big family solution with multiple husbands and wives and many children in Friday. You have to sign a contract to join the family.

Mistle
Oct 11, 2005

Eckot's comic relief cousin from out of town
Grimey Drawer

Kharnifex posted:

Huawei is going to activate their phones remotely to kill everyone.



Lithium battery kill switch :unsmigghh:

If you've seen any lithium battery videos, you'll know.

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exmachina
Mar 12, 2006

Look Closer

stephenthinkpad posted:

Heinlein also purposed a big family solution with multiple husbands and wives and many children in Friday. You have to sign a contract to join the family.

That was one form of polygamy, a line marriage. Much more common were simple polyandries and clan marriages with multiple women and even more men.

Edit: sorry I will shut up now

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