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Cynic Jester posted:It is almost entirely pointless, yes, and a lot of impale items and nodes have it in conjunction with a useful stat. Tree+Gem+Dread Banner nets you 100% impale chance even when you skip the node that only adds impale chance. I guess you could skip Dread Banner to get more unreserved mana, but Dread Banner also gives Impale effect and reduces accuracy for enemies, so I can't think of a situation where I'd actually want to do that. They need to change it so that >100% chance of impale gives you a chance for more than 1 stack to apply. It's a pretty boring design space right now since it's so easy to max.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 12:31 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 11:45 |
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Cynic Jester posted:It is almost entirely pointless, yes, and a lot of impale items and nodes have it in conjunction with a useful stat. Tree+Gem+Dread Banner nets you 100% impale chance even when you skip the node that only adds impale chance. I guess you could skip Dread Banner to get more unreserved mana, but Dread Banner also gives Impale effect and reduces accuracy for enemies, so I can't think of a situation where I'd actually want to do that. Maybe if you lack accuracy so *need* the other banner? edit: Or along similar lines to let you squeeze in a precision aura?
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 12:32 |
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 12:37 |
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Good riddance
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 12:40 |
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Masonity posted:Maybe if you lack accuracy so *need* the other banner? edit: Or along similar lines to let you squeeze in a precision aura? Even then I think I'd rather get accuracy on items and/or the tree instead of switching. Impale effect is generally more expensive to get than accuracy in terms of opportunity cost, especially with precision being a flat cost aura.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 12:43 |
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PH?
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 12:53 |
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purposeful harbinger
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 12:55 |
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I'm shocked. Shocked.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 13:42 |
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At what shock effectiveness?
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 13:50 |
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whypick1 posted:Oh good, Jousis needed yet another way to do a Heartbound Loop-CwDT spellcast loop.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 13:58 |
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Chances are they will do it by making cluster keystones no longer stackable. If that's across the board it's a massive nerf to my plan a of doing a 20 rage per shout / 1 second cooldown shoutyserker as he stacks four of the 5 rages per second keystones. Hopefully it'll be a more targeted nerf than that.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 14:38 |
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They already said that cluster nodes will continue to be stackable. More likely they'll just nerf the extremely strong ones (which includes Mob Mentality and Cry Wolf)
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 14:45 |
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I'm shocked as though I was dealt 300% more damage.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 15:08 |
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von Braun posted:what's a good spellslinger VD guide for league starting? I watched Ziz' video on it but he's so fast in explaining I can't follow. Ziz is usually a good starting point. I would recommend downloading the path of building fork and importing the pastebin in the video description. That will show you the tree, links, and gear. Otherwise if you have more specific questions just ask here.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 16:19 |
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von Braun posted:what's a good spellslinger VD guide for league starting? I watched Ziz' video on it but he's so fast in explaining I can't follow. Also Ziz's PoB guides usually contain detailed leveling notes (as in, in the Notes tab in PoB) -- what quest rewards to take, what/when to buy gems, which leveling links to run with. Also different versions of gear (early maps, endgame, etc.) I don't know what other sorts of details you're looking for but just ask in this thread (or Discord, if that's still active) I guess.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 17:05 |
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von Braun posted:what's a good spellslinger VD guide for league starting? I watched Ziz' video on it but he's so fast in explaining I can't follow. I'm planning on starting spellslinger VD this league, what I'm doing to get a idea of how to build is using poe.ninja to search for builds with VD linked to spellslinger and seeing what other people are using (link https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds?skill=Volatile-Dead&volatile-dead-support=Spellslinger-Support ) I can work backwards from the end goal to figure out how to path the early passives or what items to prioritize first. It's very handy for figuring out what other people have found to work well and how they are using their gem links and what types of passives on cluster jewels they are rolling for. As a example, main thing I see in common between the VD builds people are using is they stack % chance to avoid elemental ailments on flexible sentry clusters or rare item crafts and arcane swiftness passive, giving them 100% immunity and freeing up flask affixes to not get frozen or the occasional death to a mega shock or ignite and that is something I think I want to try for once.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 17:09 |
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:I'm planning on starting spellslinger VD this league, what I'm doing to get a idea of how to build is using poe.ninja to search for builds with VD linked to spellslinger and seeing what other people are using (link https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds?skill=Volatile-Dead&volatile-dead-support=Spellslinger-Support ) unless you are removing the really expensive items like clairty/es watcher eyes, voices, or bottled faiths, looking at poe.ninja is probably the worst. some items change your passives/acendenscies differently. like as aechmage storm brand heiro, i had to keep using the acendenscy that actually cut my archmage damage in half until i got the clairty/energy shield watchers eye
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 17:17 |
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It just requires a little understanding and double checking to know how all the interlocking mechanics are interacting, so long as the build doesn't absolutely require a incredibly expensive piece to even function due to reducing mana reserved or doubling your effective health or needing some other 50 ex item on the first day of the league you should be fine, you'll just have a goal to work towards.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 17:25 |
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SSF is worth looking at too, since they don't have turbo gear
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 17:31 |
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:As a example, main thing I see in common between the VD builds people are using is they stack % chance to avoid elemental ailments on flexible sentry clusters or rare item crafts and arcane swiftness passive, giving them 100% immunity and freeing up flask affixes to not get frozen or the occasional death to a mega shock or ignite and that is something I think I want to try for once. I don't know if that's unique to VD builds. Some HC players seem to like it (disclaimer: not a HC player myself); for instance Steelmage had that setup for his herald stacker even though that by no means is required. But yeah, going into a new build, my go-to is looking at SSF because if anything, that teaches you which stats to prioritize to get your build off the ground.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 17:49 |
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Qwertycoatl posted:SSF is worth looking at too, since they don't have turbo gear yeah, this is what i do. if some crazy good ssf person can pull off a build, i'm generally confident i can pull it off in a trade league in a couple weeks, whereas most highly ranked standard poe.ninja builds usually get into 10s of ex of budget and i play the game to casually to farm that much.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 18:09 |
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I just realized I have 2000 hours in the game and have never played a Ranger or Scion. Though this doesn't really seem like the league for it, are there any particularly compelling builds that utilize these classes?
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 18:32 |
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People love ranger scourge arrow and ice shot Pf for SA and DE for ice shot
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 18:37 |
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Ranger is pretty versatile. You can make bow Ele Hits, Ice Shot, Scourge arrows, you can make poison builds that use cobralash/venomgyre/pestilent strike/venom strike, and you'll occasionally see a mathil build using raider for something but that particular ascendancy is in a bad place when compared to glads and zerkers
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 18:40 |
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both deadeye and scion can be good at mines, and mines are a great starter
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 19:31 |
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The problem with Raider is that it's generally good, but not great. It's got good defenses! it's got good offence! It's got good speed! So people pass it over for builds that are more specialized.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 19:46 |
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frajaq posted:really dont like that broken number on the % to impale, usually Physical Impale builds already get all their chance to impale they need from the tree and the support gem right? This looks kinda out of place Cynic Jester posted:It is almost entirely pointless, yes, and a lot of impale items and nodes have it in conjunction with a useful stat. Tree+Gem+Dread Banner nets you 100% impale chance even when you skip the node that only adds impale chance. I guess you could skip Dread Banner to get more unreserved mana, but Dread Banner also gives Impale effect and reduces accuracy for enemies, so I can't think of a situation where I'd actually want to do that. I think people are looking at the unique wrong. It's not something you'd use at max level, even though the Impale explosions seem interesting. It's a leveling item. It lets you invest in Impale earlier and get some strong benefits from it, so if you're leveling as a pure physical character you can get a pretty smooth leveling experience.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 19:55 |
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it also helps any build crazy enough to use the impale cluster jewels instead of going to the bottom of the tree
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 20:10 |
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RPZip posted:I think people are looking at the unique wrong. It's not something you'd use at max level, even though the Impale explosions seem interesting. It's a leveling item. It lets you invest in Impale earlier and get some strong benefits from it, so if you're leveling as a pure physical character you can get a pretty smooth leveling experience. Yeah, it's like the Haemophilia gloves that give you the bleedsplosion if you aren't Gladiator. Not optimal, but really good stepping stone.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 20:20 |
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SpunkyRedKnight posted:I just realized I have 2000 hours in the game and have never played a Ranger or Scion. Though this doesn't really seem like the league for it, are there any particularly compelling builds that utilize these classes? One of my characters this league was(is) Deadeye Sire of Shards Cyclone-CwC-Magma Orb, and it's an absolute blast. Loosely based on this build (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ippJouFCoN4) but updated for 3.10 with a good cluster jewel setup. Best clear I've ever had, although unfortunately slow on single-target damage.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 21:40 |
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Harvest rewards: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2872119 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCGY8NmLH58
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 22:15 |
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xZAOx posted:Harvest rewards: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2872119 Nice cloak and portal.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 22:34 |
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God drat it, portal at 36 when I was looking at taking this league off. Why do I love portals so much
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 22:46 |
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You could center a cool hideout around that portal
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 22:47 |
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Definitely going to try for 36.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 22:51 |
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Hopefully it doesn't massacre my frame rate like the metamorph portal whenever I open a new map
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 22:53 |
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aejix posted:God drat it, portal at 36 when I was looking at taking this league off. Why do I love portals so much Saaaame. This was my first league hitting 36, much less 40. And looking to grind out to 100 this weekend. I was really counting on a break.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 22:54 |
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euphronius posted:You could center a cool hideout around that portal that portal has strong Cassia energy.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 23:06 |
I want that portal a lot. How do I focus my league on challenges?
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 23:12 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 11:45 |
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Play more.
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