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Crusade would have been much more acceptable as a card if only the Elspeth version existed instead of this being the first and most common version of the card: In contrast, the Elspeth version:  When you look at this it becomes a lot clearer why it made the list.
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Yeah on further reflection I think the fact that the Alpha version it depicts literal, historical Christian crusaders puts it over the line, though I'd expect them to remove the art from Gatherer and ban Alpha versions from tournaments rather than the name/mechanic itself.
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I don't think all the Deus Vult and crusades poo poo was as big in white power circles back in alpha, to be fair.
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moths posted:I don't think all the Deus Vult and crusades poo poo was as big in white power circles back in alpha, to be fair. Didn't it all take off after Kingdom of Heaven came out? I feel like that's when it was a meme on the 'net in general, then everyone but white supremacists moved on to other memes.
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canyoneer posted:What a dick move It's also absurd, because it in no way looks like a penis. It looks like two penises, docking.
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Notahippie posted:It's also absurd, because it in no way looks like a penis. It looks like two penises, docking. As the head of a larger penis. A Voltron of penises. Dicktron.
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Jun 11, 2020 23:46
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Darwinism posted:As the head of a larger penis. A Voltron of penises. Dicktron. A large group of dicks is called a "forum"
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Absurd Alhazred fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Jul 22, 2020 |
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Jun 12, 2020 01:00
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moths posted:I don't think all the Deus Vult and crusades poo poo was as big in white power circles back in alpha, to be fair.
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Slab Squatthrust posted:Didn't it all take off after Kingdom of Heaven came out? I feel like that's when it was a meme on the 'net in general, then everyone but white supremacists moved on to other memes. I didn't really notice it until the last four or five years, but I think Carl of Sargon or whatever the gently caress he calls himself popularized it with his calls to protect "western culture" from becoming anything more than fast food chains and white male protagonists in video games. It also showed up when the classical statue avatars got big - so probably dawn of alt-right rebranding.
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moths posted:I didn't really notice it until the last four or five years, but I think Carl of Sargon or whatever the gently caress he calls himself popularized it with his calls to protect "western culture" from becoming anything more than fast food chains and white male protagonists in video games.
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I remember for a minute GWB wanted to name a new sp artillery vehicle the Crusader. The Crusades were christendom's highschool football days, and they get remembered with more embellishment than fact.
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potatocubed posted:Black game designers I can point you towards: Spivey's new project is Haunted West. Last Kickstarter update is that they should deliver by late winter. I think he has another project soon that was going to be a Chaosium release until it wasn't? Edit: the setting was called Kadimah https://www.chaosium.com/blognew-future-for-kadimah-rpg-setting-darker-hue-and-chaosium-agree-on-new-home-for-science-fiction-project/ Eastmabl fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Jun 12, 2020 |
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FMguru posted:I remember a burst of "crusade" talk for a few years after 9/11 - a lot of dipshits would run blogs with names like "The Gates Of Vienna" and so forth. It all faded away after a couple of years when our brilliant Middle Eastern imperial adventure revealed itself to be not so fun after all. I mean, it hasn't really faded away at all - Most of the people doing masjid shootings reference that sort of thing in their manifestos, and a lot of the people that run blogs like "Gates of Vienna" ended up with a bunch of influence over U.S. Politicians to this day. For some good industry news - I ended up getting the DTRPG charity bundles, mostly on the strength of one RPG I saw called "Rocket Age" that looked neat. I really like Planetary Romance style stuff.* I was reading the book and digging it after I downloaded it and it was p. cool until I got to the part about languages, which listed 11 Earth languages and listed where on Earth they were spoken, and where in the solar system colonies they were spoken, except Arabic, which said: quote:Spoken by a large percentage of the Earthlings but currently mostly restricted to Earth due to political and economic pressures. Arabic is also the liturgical language of Islam." I was concerned it was going to end up being a Cthulhutech type "oh, the People of Muhammad are too primitive to be involved in our sci-fi setting" type thing. Someone told me that the text was different in the Vortex original version of the game, so I thought I'd email the developers and point out that a paragraph essentially saying that "Pretty much only people on earth speak this language" is essentially discouraging people from playing Arab characters, no matter the intent. I got a really detailed response from the developer about fifteen minutes later that was probably one of the best responses I've seen coming from a traditional games company. It went into a lot of detail about off-world Arab speaking populations in some of the supplements, some other ways Arabic speakers fit naturally in the setting, acknowledgement that they overlooked how that paragraph could come up, a promise to remember and do better, and encouragement to join the community. (I went and bought a bunch of the supplements for the game + the vortex version afterwards.)
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moths posted:I didn't really notice it until the last four or five years, but I think Carl of Sargon or whatever the gently caress he calls himself popularized it with his calls to protect "western culture" from becoming anything more than fast food chains and white male protagonists in video games.
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Notahippie posted:It's also absurd, because it in no way looks like a penis. It looks like two penises, docking. That took me a while to spot. I found the batarang faster.
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Jun 13, 2020 08:07
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11 languages?!???
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Words definitely have influence, and yeah it's probably a good idea to at least clean up the optics. Meanwhile at Talsorian Games: 
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moths posted:Words definitely have influence, and yeah it's probably a good idea to at least clean up the optics.
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Oh weird. Someone picked a real tone-deaf opportunity to push it then.
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moths posted:Oh weird. Someone picked a real tone-deaf opportunity to push it then. It would not shock me if a bunch of racists with too much money to burn bought a copy to make the algorithm push it or something.
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I remember when Comrades (a PbtA game about being leftist revolutionaries) had a bunch of loving idiots in the dtrpg comments calling it "RaHoWa: the other side" and asking if purges were a part of the game.
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HerraS posted:I remember when Comrades (a PbtA game about being leftist revolutionaries) had a bunch of loving idiots in the dtrpg comments calling it "RaHoWa: the other side" and asking if purges were a part of the game. The…the, uh, "other side" against explicit white supremacy?
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That Old Tree posted:The…the, uh, "other side" against explicit white supremacy? Fascists literally cannot resist telling on themselves, yep.
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https://rtalsoriangames.com/2020/06/12/mike-pondsmith-cops-and-racists/
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Wow, good on him
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moths posted:I didn't really notice it until the last four or five years, but I think Carl of Sargon or whatever the gently caress he calls himself popularized it with his calls to protect "western culture" from becoming anything more than fast food chains and white male protagonists in video games. This is really close to Carl Sagan and I did a doubletake
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:This is really close to Carl Sagan and I did a doubletake Sargon of Akkad is the handle, better known as Carl of Swindon. He's an incredibly lame dude.
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Corrode posted:Sargon of Akkad is the handle, better known as Carl of Swindon. He's an incredibly lame dude. Also has a failed attempt at running for office, which crashed and burned partially because tweeting "I wouldn't even rape you" is, in fact, not very palatable for voters.
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moths posted:Oh weird. Someone picked a real tone-deaf opportunity to push it then. Probably because they're pushing a lot of Black RPG creators, and R. Talsorian is one of most famous black-owned publishers in the industry, so their titles are getting a lot of attention.
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Trojan Kaiju posted:Also has a failed attempt at running for office, which crashed and burned partially because tweeting "I wouldn't even rape you" is, in fact, not very palatable for voters. He got fish thrown at him when he went to speak in Truro. When you're too racist even for Cornwall, that's saying something.
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Whybird posted:He got fish thrown at him when he went to speak in Truro. He also got milkshaked in Salisbury, which again, if you're too racist for Salisbury, what the hell man. He also chose to run for UKIP after the only attraction of UKIP had formed another party. If he'd run for Brexit he'd probably be an MEP now and he's not really any less of a headbanger than anyone else in that party.
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Can't remember which thread the CAH stuff was being posted in, but: https://twitter.com/realnicocarter/status/1270153497053364224 https://twitter.com/realnicocarter/status/1270153500064956416
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Jun 14, 2020 23:20
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The Gamescience dice guy sure is, uhhh ... yeah. https://twitter.com/dufrau/status/1272279632205819905
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taichara posted:The Gamescience dice guy sure is, uhhh ... yeah. No, not Lou Zocchi, don't let Lou Zocchi be a chud... [reads email] Oh good... Wait... What the gently caress did I just read?
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moths posted:If Lou Zocchi turns out to be an escaped nazi I am through with this hobby.
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8one6 posted:What the gently caress did I just read? He's old.
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That's signed James Means, not Lou Zocchi. I kind of assume Lou Zocchi doesn't know how to operate email.
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