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also a 10-1 rejection of Nancy "the murderers of Mario Woods did nothing wrong" Tung for the Police Commission a good session.
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Jun 10, 2020 00:45
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I picked up a few pizza slices in downtown San Jose on Friday and people were standing on the street outside at little tables, like 4 or 5 people around a table drinking beer with no masks on. The San Jose subreddit has a picture of people all drinking with no masks on at San Pedro Square from this weekend. I saw some thing saying gyms could reopen on Friday, but IDK if it was Santa Clara county or California. My friend works full time for Santa Clara county and has been moved to become a full time contact tracer for 'at least 6-8 months', she said they aim to have 1000 of them. So, good news and terrible news. Why is San Jose open ? I didn't see anything saying it was legal! WTF?
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Jun 10, 2020 23:23
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The streets are now full of people not wearing masks. One guy I play games with bragged about going to the beach and the good crowds that were there. A good chunk of people of this country have been propagandized into being selfish and worthless assholes. If you can't even wear a cloth mask to protect the weak and the sick and can't summon up enough willpower to not voluntarily hang around crowds for a year you're a bad person.
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Jun 10, 2020 23:57
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Sure, but I yell and bang pots at 8pm every night for our healthcare workers.
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Jun 11, 2020 00:00
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Doesn't that and the howling scare away the virus? Or am I misunderstanding?
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Jun 11, 2020 00:03
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withak posted:Doesn't that and the howling scare away the virus? Or am I misunderstanding? No, it helps wake up the sun sooner so that it can kill the virus. Roosters were always our best medicine.
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Jun 11, 2020 01:03
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US just hit 2 million cases? What. Looks like we peaked for new cases in April but we're hitting a plateau instead of tapering? Jesus
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Jun 11, 2020 05:04
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FilthyImp posted:US just hit 2 million cases? What. Its actually going back up, and a lot of states with large elderly populations (Florida, Arizona) are in real bad shape We're idiots
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Jun 11, 2020 05:08
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California too. We just had our highest daily number of cases like last week.
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Jun 11, 2020 05:21
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 Why does the graph look like a sawtooth? Some fluke of reporting?
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Jun 11, 2020 05:38
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Ron Jeremy posted:
Poor reporting on the weekends. Sunday is almost always the lowest day of the week.
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Ron Jeremy posted:Why does the graph look like a sawtooth? Some fluke of reporting?
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Jun 11, 2020 05:41
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FCKGW posted:California too. We just had our highest daily number of cases like last week. Basically we got to a plateau and called it "first peak" and pretended like we got Beat Covid. It's unbelievably depressing and stupid.
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Jun 11, 2020 08:11
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FMguru posted:At a guess, it's some organizations not reporting numbers during weekends. a ton of places don't do testing on the weekends or won't even accept delivery of samples, so hospitals won't/can't swab between like 3pm friday till early monday morning it's of course a huge complication for capacity because you've got patients stuck taking up space where they might not need to be if testing didn't have such a large weekend-shaped speedbump incidentally my wife has yet to see a patient over age 70 survive this, please y'all take it seriously
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I guess I'll just keep repeating this. "Cases" is a metric that tracks both the spread of coronavirus, and the increased rates of testing, both in California and nationwide. As such, it can't be used on its own to show that Coronavirus is spreading more or less. The changing pace of testing obscures the underlying factor of the disease spread. Look at hospitalizations and deaths. It's likely that the percentage of coronavirus cases that become serious enough to warrant hospitalization and then that patient actually gets hospitalized is relatively consistent over time, and, it's more likely that the rate at which actual deaths from coronavirus are officially attributed to coronavirus are consistent over time. Neither are totally consistent, but they're more consistent than the official case count metrics. https://projects.sfchronicle.com/2020/coronavirus-map/ Scroll down to the "New reported cases and deaths in California, by day" section and you can see this in action. The "cases" metric on the left keeps climbing throughout april and may. And that's not cumulative, it's the new cases per day metric. But on the right you see deaths, and the moving average of those are declining softly throughout april and may. It's spiky due to the aforementioned reporting cadence across weekends, but the moving average line shows the trend. Gently downward. Scroll down again to the "Confirmed ICU and non-ICU COVID-19 patients in California hospitals" and you'll see hospitalizations is very flat from april 8 through june 10, hovering right around 3000. This shows that our hospitals are not being overwhelmed, although they're also not seeing a strong downturn the way the death rate is. I would speculate that, combined with the previous slow decline in deaths, this indicates that either A) we're gradually becoming more permissive in which cases are worthy of hospitalization, or B) we're gradually improving the rate of survival of hospitalized patients. Or maybe a combination of the two, or maybe additional factors are at play. Overall, though, the sentiment that it's bizarre that we're reopening the state is correct: there's no strong indicator of improvement or recovery, we're just treading water as a state, and it's reasonable to assume that reopening will increase cases, hospitalizations, and deaths, above the current flat to maybe gently downward trend.
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Jun 11, 2020 17:58
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Leperflesh posted:I guess I'll just keep repeating this. or in other words, Jaxyon posted:It's unbelievably depressing and stupid.
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Jun 11, 2020 18:10
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I find it highly believably depressing and stupid.
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Jun 11, 2020 18:21
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Hey, so why do we still have a town in California (Fort Bragg) named after a confederate general?
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Oh goddamnit I didn't know Bragg was a Confederate general jfc.
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Jun 11, 2020 18:45
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Regarding virus, it's a slow bleed / stall until some point next year or 2022 when there's either a viable vaccine or it's mutated enough to be less deadly. They're going to ease restrictions to keep the economy floundering, wait until there's a big spike, put restrictions back while the hospital workers get hosed again, then ease restrictions again, rinse repeat.
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Jun 11, 2020 20:31
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droll posted:2022 [...] it's mutated enough to be less deadly. is there a paper talking about that somewhere or is that just a guess? I don't know anything about virus evolution but that's an impressively short timespan. oh or I just misread your post and 2022 is about the vaccine not the evolution part oops
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Jun 11, 2020 21:09
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The Glumslinger posted:Hey, so why do we still have a town in California (Fort Bragg) named after a confederate general? Wikipedia page says that there was a petition to change the name back in 2015. They should probably try again.
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Goodpancakes posted:I look forward to visiting Ft. Aaexi12 after donald makes Elon the imperial administrator of The New Californian republic
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Jun 11, 2020 21:27
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The Glumslinger posted:Hey, so why do we still have a town in California (Fort Bragg) named after a confederate general? Anywhere that's outside a major city in CA is racist as gently caress. There's still sundown towns here.
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The Glumslinger posted:Hey, so why do we still have a town in California (Fort Bragg) named after a confederate general? I have bad news about every California city named after a mission, anything named Fremont, Sutter, Carson, Kern, Mendocino, uh I dunno look up your local namesakes and you'll find no end to colonial enslavement, rape, and murder. I dunno if Junipero Serra is cancelled by we can definitely take down his ugly rear end statue on 280 
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Jun 11, 2020 22:19
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Jaxyon posted:Anywhere that's outside a major city in CA is racist as gently caress. I moved to the foothills off of I80 from Colorado in 2018 and the amount of Trump paraphernalia I see around is staggering in contrast. Then sprinkle in some State of Jefferson stuff for good measure. California is a land of contrasts.
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I'm not exactly a Fremont *stan* or anything, but he wasnt a confederate and as a union commander, he issued an emancipation order in Missouri in 1861.John C. Fremont posted:All persons who shall be taken with arms in their hands within these lines shall be tried by court-martial, and, if found guilty, will be shot. The property, real and personal, of all persons in the State of Missouri who shall take up arms against the United States, and who shall be directly proven to have taken active part with their enemies in the field, is declared to be confiscated to the public use; and their slaves, if any they have, are hereby declared free. ...of course he got fired over it and it didn't really free many slaves, but he was on the right side.
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Ron Jeremy posted:I'm not exactly a Fremont *stan* or anything, but he wasnt a confederate and as a union commander, he issued an emancipation order in Missouri in 1861. Before he made that bold stance for abolition, he was busy roving the central valley and genociding native americans
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droll posted:Regarding virus, it's a slow bleed / stall until some point next year or 2022 when there's either a viable vaccine or it's mutated enough to be less deadly. They're going to ease restrictions to keep the economy floundering, wait until there's a big spike, put restrictions back while the hospital workers get hosed again, then ease restrictions again, rinse repeat. Part of the purpose for the shelter in place was to prepare hospitals so they could handle a surge, wasn't it? At least according to the state's own metrics, hospitals should now be capable of handling a surge if it happens.
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Jun 11, 2020 23:37
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slicing up eyeballs posted:is there a paper talking about that somewhere or is that just a guess? I don't know anything about virus evolution but that's an impressively short timespan. oh or I just misread your post and 2022 is about the vaccine not the evolution part oops It's more a theoretical thing, and yeah, viruses can mutate significantly in such a short timespan. The idea behind it is that viruses that are super deadly with no real reservoir will die out because they just kill the host with minimal transmission and are done. In contrast, a virus that smolders along and is able to infect dozens is going to spread itself further.
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slicing up eyeballs posted:is there a paper talking about that somewhere or is that just a guess? I don't know anything about virus evolution but that's an impressively short timespan. oh or I just misread your post and 2022 is about the vaccine not the evolution part oops It's my guess based on my understanding of a couple things. First, a virus that kills the host quickly is less likely to spread more thus ending its evolution faster. A less deadly variation can spread more. It's a numbers game. Second, if we look at the 1918 flu there were a few waves starting around mid 1918 but by the end of 1919 they had stopped. I know Influenza isn't Coronavirus but that's what we got. droll fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Jun 12, 2020 |
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Jun 12, 2020 00:07
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Spikes in cases are just going to get blamed on protests. People certainly aren't social distracting in those events and it won't be hard for people to cherry pick photos of huge crowds of unmasked people.
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Jun 12, 2020 01:38
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I was at one of the later Oakland protests and literally every single person in the crowd had a mask on. I don't even think I saw any masks being worn below the nose like dumb old boomer guys do. It was actually incredible.
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Kenning posted:I was at one of the later Oakland protests and literally every single person in the crowd had a mask on. I don't even think I saw any masks being worn below the nose like dumb old boomer guys do. It was actually incredible. when i was protesting in oakland i'd say probably 80-90% of people had masks. A lot of people with masks were doing the mouth-only thing though, or would take the mask off for a few minutes then put it back on again. infinitely better than all the chuds purposely not wearing them and intentionally touching each other though lol
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I would recommend anyone that has gone to a protest to get tested. At least in the east bay it's possible to schedule a test at a few locations regardless of whether you have symptoms, are an essential worker whatever it doesn't matter. 2-3 day turn around for results. I got tested and it came back negative. E: it's not the painful old tests either. You get a swab put in your nose and it feels a little weird. America Inc. fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Jun 12, 2020 |
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Lawsuit being filed against the OPD:"East Bay Times posted:Social rights activists and attorneys announced a federal civil rights lawsuit Thursday, calling on the city to ban police use of tear gas, rubber bullets and flash bangs on protesters in Oakland.
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