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in the first game at least like 90% of the people you kill are murderers, rapists, cannibals, or fascists. I suspect that ratio's gonna be a lot lower in this one to reflect Ellie's descent into madness but we've already been shown the fascists and a crazy religious cult that crucifies people, not exactly "normal" people imo
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what's wack about tlou2 is that they are trying to be compelling in a way that doesn't respect people's intelligence, not because it's better or worse to kill digital, fictional humans and dogs. you've let yourselves get taken on a ride
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Jun 13, 2020 17:12
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Dogs occupy the same general space in our heads as babies do. We see them as little cute things that are fun to cuddle and play with, even if they're huge. I guarantee there would be a stronger reaction to a human baby being killed, this isn't an animal/human thing.
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grieving for Gandalf posted:what's wack about tlou2 is that they are trying to be compelling in a way that doesn't respect people's intelligence, not because it's better or worse to kill digital, fictional humans and dogs. you've let yourselves get taken on a ride lmao
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grieving for Gandalf posted:what's wack about tlou2 is that they are trying to be compelling in a way that doesn't respect people's intelligence, not because it's better or worse to kill digital, fictional humans and dogs. you've let yourselves get taken on a ride not to mention the actual torture techniques and sweatshop practices that went into its development
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Jun 13, 2020 17:16
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Hwurmp posted:not to mention the actual torture techniques and sweatshop practices that went into its development this thread is only for discussing the evolutionary psychology of why people have a strong reaction to killing infants and animals, not labor practices
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grieving for Gandalf posted:what's wack about tlou2 is that they are trying to be compelling in a way that doesn't respect people's intelligence, not because it's better or worse to kill digital, fictional humans and dogs. you've let yourselves get taken on a ride  has this reviewer been taken for a ride
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Jun 13, 2020 17:21
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Stux posted:
i don't think she posts in this thread but i'm glad she enjoyed it. i'd rather people have a good time than a bad time generally
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Stux posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsfhADiaP5E
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Its not even the dog killing that puts me off it's the fact that they're trying to make such a big deal about it
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Jun 13, 2020 17:23
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fridge corn posted:Its not even the dog killing that puts me off it's the fact that they're trying to make such a big deal about it this is the crux of it for me
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grieving for Gandalf posted:i don't think she posts in this thread but i'm glad she enjoyed it. i'd rather people have a good time than a bad time generally yeah me too thats why its cool to me so many queer reviewers are saying its good, seems like its probably good to me 
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Jun 13, 2020 17:25
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I do not believe I will buy this game but I hope that it is good and that Stux gets a good return on their Naughty Dog stock
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Jun 13, 2020 17:26
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Stux posted:
I wonder if shes read any baldwin
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Jun 13, 2020 17:27
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[wisely, head bowed solemnly] anyone who disagrees with my opinions is a bot, an npc and paid off. its just how it is.
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Jun 13, 2020 17:28
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fridge corn posted:I wonder if shes read any baldwin prefer his acting personally
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Jun 13, 2020 17:29
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TheKingofSprings posted:I do not believe I will buy this game but I hope that it is good and that Stux gets a good return on their Naughty Dog stock they're trying out a new marketing deal where posters get paid in fractions of a stock based on what % of the thread is their posts, and right now stux has a very healthy lead
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Stux posted:prefer his acting personally I'm not surprised
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Jun 13, 2020 17:32
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Am I the only one who doesn't really need any more stories of queerness surviving "against the odds"? I'm very tired of endless misery and torture and suffering all heaped upon queer folks for the titillation of straight people. Feels like every story about lgbtq people has to be about them being brutalised and oppressed. I'm much more likely to buy that game PS5 announced about the lesbian dinosaurs. There is a gap in the market for stories about queerness just having a good time and being super cute.
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Jun 13, 2020 17:35
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if other lgbtq people are saying its handled well and good in their reviews i can give the benefit of the doubt personally. doesnt mean anyone has to play it if they dont want to because they dont like the angle though.
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CountryMatters posted:Am I the only one who doesn't really need any more stories of queerness surviving "against the odds"? I'm very tired of endless misery and torture and suffering all heaped upon queer folks for the titillation of straight people. Feels like every story about lgbtq people has to be about them being brutalised and oppressed. I’m sure the high school story with the lead writer who has an avid interest in Harry Potter porn will fill all you need and more
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TheKingofSprings posted:I’m sure the high school story with the lead writer who has an avid interest in Harry Potter porn will fill all you need and more Why did you have to crush my faint hopes so easily
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Stux posted:yeah me too thats why its cool to me so many queer reviewers are saying its good, seems like its probably good to me quote:surviving against the odds Did the ending change from what I heard? lmao
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Jun 13, 2020 17:49
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CountryMatters posted:I'm much more likely to buy that game PS5 announced about the lesbian dinosaurs. Jokes on you when the asteroid hits in the first hour of gameplay and the rest of the game is a gruesome gory fight for survival where everyone is doomed to extinction in the end.
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Jun 13, 2020 17:55
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gamer horseshoe theory that people who only think lighthearted games are legitimate and people who only think darker games are legitimate both think the other type of game is childish and are closer to each other than to true chad gamers
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SpazmasterX posted:Did the ending change from what I heard? lmao I don’t think Ellie dies if that’s what you mean.
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quote:Anger and grief are understandable motivations at the start of a revenge quest, but The Last of Us 2 never follows-through on the work of exploring what sustains them past reason and scruple. That’s why it falls short of its ambitions of being a work of tragedy, despite roundly excellent performances by the cast. The characters’ motivations are easy enough to understand, but they’re also increasingly less compelling as the game drags on and the losses mount. It’s little wonder that some of the game’s best moments come during a major subplot that gives us respite from the vendettas—and characters—that drive most of the game’s action. The things that serve as the catalyst for a story aren’t always interesting reasons for its continuation, but that doesn’t stop The Last of Us 2 from revisiting the same traumas every time it needs to justify the next bloodbath, and hoping that the screams and gurgles of the dying will give it meaning. https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/wxqnxy/last-of-us-part-2-review?__twitter_impression=true
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Stux posted:true chad gamers are chads good or bad now? I’ve lost track of internet baby-talk
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CountryMatters posted:Am I the only one who doesn't really need any more stories of queerness surviving "against the odds"? I'm very tired of endless misery and torture and suffering all heaped upon queer folks for the titillation of straight people. Feels like every story about lgbtq people has to be about them being brutalised and oppressed. Queer people (especially lesbians) in games seem to exist only to suffer. Also that lesbian dinosaur game is definitely going to end with them being killed by a meteor.
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afatwhiteloaf posted:https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/wxqnxy/last-of-us-part-2-review?__twitter_impression=true quote:It digs two graves, fills them with blood, and then just loving wallows in them. Pretty metal.
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Cnidaria posted:Queer people (especially lesbians) in games seem to exist only to suffer. It'll probably have an ending vibe similar to Seeking A Friend for the End of the World. "They finally approached something resembling real happiness - and now they're dead. FIN."
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JOEL: nononono babygirl, no— you’ve got to do one thing for me. Okay? Just do this one thing. Promise me. ELLIE: [crying] Joel, no I—- gently caress, okay— okay— JOEL: I need you to listen real close, babygirl. I need you to do this for me. ELLIE: okay, I promise. JOEL: Rip and tear, until it is done.
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Bonaventure posted:are chads good or bad now? I’ve lost track of internet baby-talk if you need a refresher check, your post history hahahaha
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Hey all, Couple reports about posters ITT coming in. I've had a quick look, and while there is currently nothing that will be actioned ATM I'd like to remind everyone to keep things chill and that LGBT attacks will not be tolerated. Please keep reporting as you have been doing, and if there are any issues send me a PM as VideoGames wishes to remain unspoiled. Cheers
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Stux posted:if you need a refresher check, your post history hahahaha Tone it down Stux
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Bonaventure posted:JOEL: nononono babygirl, no— you’ve got to do one thing for me. Okay? Just do this one thing. Promise me. The only thing they fear is you sweetie
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I'd like to point out that games where you play the dog are way cooler than games where you murder the dog https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_63MzteDbl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWs2jT_5Ppk
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messed up that neither of those is tokyo jungle
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that Vice comment about there being nothing we haven’t done in a previous ND game just kinda drove the nail in. I couldn’t even be bothered to start Uncharted 4 when I had it.
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Peacoffee posted:that Vice comment about there being nothing we haven’t done in a previous ND game just kinda drove the nail in. I couldn’t even be bothered to start Uncharted 4 when I had it. Uncharted 4 really started to drag at the end because of the bland 3rd person cover shooter gameplay. Based on all of the reviews of TLOU2 it seems like it's basically the same 3rd person shooter with light stealth/survival mechanics as the first game with some minor improvements. And it sounds like it's stretched out over 25-30 hours so I can imagine that it will start to feel like a complete slog. By this point there are so many better games in the 3rd person shooter, survival, and stealth genres that TLOU2 seems outdated before it even comes out. And if you still want that TLOU gameplay you might as well replay the first game instead of shelling out $60 for more of the same but with a worse story.
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