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As a Portuguese, I'm offended we are a level below Greece.
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Needs to separate Flanders and Wallonia so Wallonia can be average/worrying
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Jun 13, 2020 19:31
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Kamrat posted:I'm the non-existent Crimea
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Jun 13, 2020 20:03
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Average Lettuce posted:As a Portuguese, I'm offended we are a level below Greece. You're the arithmetic mean between Spain and Russian, much like your language.
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Jun 13, 2020 20:34
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Groda posted:You're the arithmetic mean between Spain and Russian, much like your language. I always think its interesting how Brazilian Portuguese sounds a lot less like drunken/Russian Spanish than Portuguese Portuguese. Its a lot easier to understand. I guess its similar to how in English the American accent is a lot easier to understand than regional British ones.
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Jun 13, 2020 22:08
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Guavanaut posted:Good/OK for COVID. Sweden has officially joined Eastern Europe.
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Jun 13, 2020 22:16
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Blut posted:I always think its interesting how Brazilian Portuguese sounds a lot less like drunken/Russian Spanish than Portuguese Portuguese. Its a lot easier to understand. I believe a lot of this has to do with the (relative) homogeniety of AmE / BrP vs BrE and PP because the European varieties have a lot more accents and evolutions they went through on account of having been around for much longer. A person from London in 2020 speaks a London English that is quite different from the Engelish spoken there in 1900, whereas American English has more or less stayed the same. 'Colonizer' varieties of a language also tend to be more conservative and resistant to change (e.g. Icelandic, Québec French), though there are exceptions like Afrikaans.
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Jun 13, 2020 23:37
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https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1271771873676677120 Putting a map in the constitution is a galaxy brain move, whether or not the map is highly politically loaded.
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Platystemon posted:https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1271771873676677120 Nepal is a democracy with three major parties: the leninists, the maoists, and the socialists as the right-wing so its already the C-SPAM country
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Jun 14, 2020 00:39
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So if I get this right they're claiming this whole region?
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Jun 14, 2020 09:06
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Kamrat posted:I'm the non-existent Crimea Finally, someone stands up for what is right
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Jun 14, 2020 09:18
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Eureka! The solution to the problem of who owns Crimea is simply to destroy Crimea. Now everyone and no one owns it!
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Jun 14, 2020 10:19
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No data for Cyprus, come on now.
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Jun 14, 2020 11:04
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 Close enough except Russia sucks more
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Jun 14, 2020 12:56
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I’m Sognefjord giving the impression that Norway dabbles in necromancy.
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Jun 14, 2020 13:04
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mobby_6kl posted:
are things really that dire in their exclave or is it just colored the same as russia
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Jun 14, 2020 14:14
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It's Russia, and the map doesn't show subnational divisions. There's no other way to color it. I agree that they're imperalists who got greedy in pushing west after WWII, but I can't blame them for taking the opportunity and I think we have to accept it. Bit surprised that Hungary is so high compared to its neighbors, and to a lesser extent Belgium and Finland. Brussels is a dump and Antwerp is the cocaine capital of Europe, but I never had the impression that that translated into a particularly high murder rate.
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Jun 14, 2020 14:20
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a fatguy baldspot posted:are things really that dire in their exclave or is it just colored the same as russia thats Russian Guiana, it always ends up like that
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Jun 14, 2020 14:37
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Kruschev offered the Kaliningrad Oblast to the Lithuanian SSR but the Lithuanian premier didn't want to alter the ethnic make up of his state. Now thanks to him Kaliningrad has nearly twice as many murders.
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Jun 14, 2020 16:01
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That refusal was probably a very wise move, pretty sure we would have long seen a Sudetenland/'little green men' scenario in Lithuania by now (under the assumption that they never would have joined NATO or the EU with a Russian majority).
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Phlegmish posted:That refusal was probably a very wise move, pretty sure we would have long seen a Sudetenland/'little green men' scenario in Lithuania by now (under the assumption that they never would have joined NATO or the EU with a Russian majority).
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Jun 14, 2020 16:21
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Kamrat posted:I'm the non-existent Crimea I'm non-existent Kosovo. ButtHate fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Jun 14, 2020 |
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Jun 14, 2020 16:37
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They should've offered Kaliningrad to Michigan.
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Jun 14, 2020 16:39
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ButtHate posted:I'm non-existent Kosovo. At least the region that makes up Kosovo still exists, Crimea is obliterated from the map
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Jun 14, 2020 16:44
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Kaliningrad, now an exclave of Bir Tawil.
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Jun 14, 2020 17:15
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Kaliningrad should just be Israel, it is known.
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Jun 14, 2020 17:17
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It would have been a just sale, for the sake of god, king and pretty borders.
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Jun 14, 2020 17:40
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Deformed Church posted:Kaliningrad, now an exclave of Bir Tawil. 
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Jun 14, 2020 18:28
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Kaliningrad should just be Israel, it is known. Unironically this.
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Jun 14, 2020 19:35
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The cursed images thread you're looking for is in GBS.
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Jun 14, 2020 19:45
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Pope Hilarius II posted:I believe a lot of this has to do with the (relative) homogeniety of AmE / BrP vs BrE and PP because the European varieties have a lot more accents and evolutions they went through on account of having been around for much longer. A person from London in 2020 speaks a London English that is quite different from the Engelish spoken there in 1900, whereas American English has more or less stayed the same. 'Colonizer' varieties of a language also tend to be more conservative and resistant to change (e.g. Icelandic, Québec French), though there are exceptions like Afrikaans. I wonder why it is that colonizer language branches 'froze' when their home countries kept evolving? It seems counter intuitive. You'd think with the melting pot that most colonial societies were you'd have multiple accent influences all converging into a new hybrid/evolution. Irish/Italian/German accents influencing American English more than they did for example.
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Jun 14, 2020 21:57
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I've heard british accents tend to straight up use more phonemes than north american ones, which is why brits tend to be way better at imitating american accents than the other way around.
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Jun 14, 2020 22:10
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Blut posted:I wonder why it is that colonizer language branches 'froze' when their home countries kept evolving? It seems counter intuitive. You'd think with the melting pot that most colonial societies were you'd have multiple accent influences all converging into a new hybrid/evolution. Irish/Italian/German accents influencing American English more than they did for example. My guess would be: more sensitivity to, and defensiveness of, the "purity" of the colonizing culture in relation to the colonized, resulting in more resistance to linguistic drift.
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Jun 14, 2020 22:33
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I've heard british accents tend to straight up use more phonemes than north american ones, which is way brits tend to be way better at imitating american accents than the other way around. I have a map about this, though it's only for North America. 
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Blut posted:I wonder why it is that colonizer language branches 'froze' when their home countries kept evolving? It seems counter intuitive. You'd think with the melting pot that most colonial societies were you'd have multiple accent influences all converging into a new hybrid/evolution. Irish/Italian/German accents influencing American English more than they did for example. It's probably misleading to say that American English 'froze', neither languages nor species really do that, but either way, there's no particular reason to expect American English to have diverged more from the common ancestral language than British English. In fact, paradoxically, mass immigration and population movements in general usually have homogenizing effects on language. Instead of every minor region having had however many centuries to diverge from its neighbors, colonial nations were usually settled relatively recently, and they're also marked by high rates of geographical mobility (especially the US). As for immigrants, they generally learn whichever language is dominant in their social environment, and that's not always the local vernacular. Mass immigration can put serious pressure on dialects and minority languages (see for example the status of Catalan in Barcelona). Different immigrant groups will also generally use a simplified version of the dominant language to communicate with each other and the native population, implying pressure towards a lowest common denominator, but otherwise not necessarily in a particular direction. All in all, the homogeneity of American English is not that strange.
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Jun 14, 2020 22:51
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With all our sunlight and tans, it's more like Gyarufornia. 
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Civilization was a mistake
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If you think about it, Ireland, the UK, and Romania are the most civilized places in Europe.
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