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OwlFancier posted:E: also yes make sure your mum's injuries are clean because cat injuries are unpleasant at the best of times. If the cat punctured the skin, aka any blood at all, your mum will need to call 111 and may need to see a doctor for antibiotics claws can be covered in bacteria which gets under the skin when it heals, if it's a bite its even worse.
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communism bitch posted:Anybody who wants to inspect my dick and balls in the toilets is free to do so. don't care what gender identity or sexual orientation you profess. Just come and get some, the more the merrier. "I'm afraid I can't let you use this shitter without an examination. We're the CBI - Cock & Ball Inspectors." Jippa posted:I listen to a political podcast and they just had matt forde on (the comedian who left labour over corbyn). He was cooing over how amazing starmer was and how "labour were back". Also how the entire country rallied behind boris when he got sick etc. It's a return to  and SeNsIbLe politics again, you see. Where you can espouse how great the idea of (tiny) changes are, without the threat of anything actually loving happening other than a further slide to the right.And harrumphing loudly when people are actually pushing for a non-poo poo change. Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Jun 14, 2020 |
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Thanks all, pretty much what I figured. Just wanted a sounding board incase I missed something obvious.
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OwlFancier posted:Fragmentation along state lines seems more likely than popular revolution I would think. I could see it happening, but I don't think it would help. It's not like the systemic racism isn't endemic across the entire country, and it's not like if the coasts seceded from the inland states (or whatever) and somehow DID manage to succeed in eradicating or dramatically reducing the racism, the majority of the poverty-stricken non-white people could up and move there. I don't think you fix the US without an armed revolution. But then, I don't think you fix the world at large without an armed revolution either.
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the GRA news has left me loving livid and forlorn. What can I do right now to help? I'll be donating to Mermaids but any other charities that are doing good? Any petitions I can get behind?
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thespaceinvader posted:I could see it happening, but I don't think it would help. It's not like the systemic racism isn't endemic across the entire country, and it's not like if the coasts seceded from the inland states (or whatever) and somehow DID manage to succeed in eradicating or dramatically reducing the racism, the majority of the poverty-stricken non-white people could up and move there. It might facilitate enough reforms to reach a more stable state for a while, plus I have a general feeling that if there is a revolution it's less likely to be armed and more just a collapse of participation. More like a general strike than bolsheviks.
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Ague Proof posted:Sir Keir Starmer sets out 'tough' new measures sentencing nonces to 10 years in government.  "Mr Speaker, I think you'll find the Honourable member is actually an "Ephebeophile".
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Guavanaut posted:It's very far from a first-line therapy for that though, so do you think it's a case of it failed to respond to anything else, or a case of paying for some Harley Street croaker to give her the horse drugs that she'd gladly have any of the proles thrown in prison for? It's a last resort before actual brain surgery, which she had a little while ago.
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Pesky Splinter posted:
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OwlFancier posted:It might facilitate enough reforms to reach a more stable state for a while, plus I have a general feeling that if there is a revolution it's less likely to be armed and more just a collapse of participation. More like a general strike than bolsheviks. If you don't think a concerted, long-term, national or global general strike turns into either an armed revolution or a short series of brutal massacres followed by forced labour I'm not sure how ELSE you think it's gonna go? Skeletome posted:the GRA news has left me loving livid and forlorn. Write to your MP, write to your local and/or county councils as appropriate for your location. Don't waste your effort or attention on petitions, they don't do poo poo - particularly in this case given that the government commissioned an OFFICIAL PIECE OF loving RESEARCH, i.e. a petition on steroids that they clearly intended to use (if it came out as they wanted) then completely ignored it. Given that the same government (functionally) ignored a 6 MILLION signature petition (i.e. a good 10% of the voting public) on stopping Brexit. Put your money into activist charities, put your time into activism if you're able to. Ratjaculation posted:I don't want to Google that... Do I Epheb- is the greek(?) prefix for youthful. The term is supposed to relate to attraction to young people who are definitely not actually children, in the 'Sun counting down to the day she's of age so they can put her tits on page 3' sense. It's another way of trying to make noncing into identity politics, basically, both to make it seem more acceptable and to discredit queer identities. thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Jun 14, 2020 |
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It's the technical greek for someone who is only a nonce to like, 12 year olds rather than 5 year olds.
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thespaceinvader posted:If you don't think a concerted, long-term, national or global general strike turns into either an armed revolution or a short series of brutal massacres followed by forced labour I'm not sure how ELSE you think it's gonna go? At this rate I'm not entirely sure that the structures that underpin the force monopoly won't collapse first, you're already seeing mass opposition to the cops.
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Ague Proof posted:Sir Keir Starmer sets out 'tough' new measures sentencing nonces to 10 years in government. I did computer forensics for 9 years and came to the conclusion that 'forensic' means 'but with a poo poo ton of child porn' so this checks out.
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Calming down a bit. Had some positive words of encouragement from my CLP and I'll be meeting with them next week. I read a good summary of it from Shon Faye https://mobile.twitter.com/shonfaye/status/1272098943699243009 Sorry about flipping out and I'm a bit embarrassed about immediately looking to flee the country at the first sign of trouble. But emotions are high
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OwlFancier posted:At this rate I'm not entirely sure that the structures that underpin the force monopoly won't collapse first, you're already seeing mass opposition to the cops. It's certainly happening on a local level in a couple of places, and the numbers in those places have won. But conversely, I'm still intensely concerned that in one mass protest somewhere in the American south - or maybe in NYC once they finally come out of quarantine - there's gonna be a trigger happy squad of nazis who've infiltrated the cops that just starts shooting actual bullets. I can see it coming, and I am pretty sure I know what happens if it does.
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If you genuinely think you'd be better off elsewhere then I don't think you need to feel guilty about leaving, I'm just sorry if it comes to that, anywhere you leave would be less for your absence. But I hope your twitter thread is right, I hope the trend it describes holds true in a lot of other areas too. thespaceinvader posted:It's certainly happening on a local level in a couple of places, and the numbers in those places have won. I think if that happened then it's going to galvaninse opposition to the cops even further. I think the reason they've been shy about just gunning people down en masse is because they know they likely can't get away with it. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Jun 14, 2020 |
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thespaceinvader posted:It's certainly happening on a local level in a couple of places, and the numbers in those places have won. that's the entire police
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Ratjaculation posted:I don't want to Google that... Do I It's posho nonce for "they're really 16 I swear", and "I can't be a nonce as they're 12 but look older". It's Greek, "Ephebe", IIRC it literally means "Adolescent boy", but generally "young person". Basically any justification the Daily Mail has for articles about teen girls in bikinis with the tagline "All Grown Up", while insisting they aren't paedos for salivating over a loving teen. And used by nonces to weakly attempt to justify that they aren't paedos because, "Well it's not like they're young kids", or whatever, co-opting identity politics to make their abuse seem more acceptable. [e]: Beaten
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thespaceinvader posted:It's not a theory until it's proved, and even then, it probably wasn't a theory, at least in the scientific sense. The forecast that this theory makes when our current wages/inequality/state action is fed in is that we done hosed up and there's going to be 15 years of bad poo poo from it, unless the state also notices this and reforms early. Jippa posted:I listen to a political podcast and they just had matt forde on (the comedian who left labour over corbyn). He was cooing over how amazing starmer was and how "labour were back". Also how the entire country rallied behind boris when he got sick etc. Isomermaid posted:Calming down a bit. Had some positive words of encouragement from my CLP and I'll be meeting with them next week.
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A big flaming stink posted:that's the entire police They haven't done it to a crowd. Yet. OwlFancier posted:If you genuinely think you'd be better off elsewhere then I don't think you need to feel guilty about leaving, I'm just sorry if it comes to that, anywhere you leave would be less for your absence. Yes, it will. And at the point where the opposition is being galvanised to escalate from peaceful protest because the cops got galvanised from less lethal means into just plain not bothering to pretend to not be trying to kill people... what do you get? You don't get loving hugs.
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thespaceinvader posted:Yes, it will. I mean, the state by state control of the cops I think would surely mean that they would not all follow the same way? I'd be willing to bet that there's more than a few that would rather stand down their police forces and try to figure out an alternative than start a race war. Especially if you think that the flashpoint would be far right assholes going off on their own. I just don't think there's the kind of widespread popular support for that like there was 100 years ago in Tulsa. Still way too much support for it, yes, but I would be genuinely surprised if it comes to that, especially across the country. If something like that happened I think it would be the nail in the coffin for the current mode of policing across a lot of the US because so many people already think they're like that. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Jun 14, 2020 |
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Jippa posted:I listen to a political podcast and they just had matt forde on (the comedian who left labour over corbyn). He was cooing over how amazing starmer was and how "labour were back". Also how the entire country rallied behind boris when he got sick etc. Did he get any push back?
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Lol people are pointing out the britain first lot spelled britain wrong on their flag yesterday. "Britian First"
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Skeletome posted:the GRA news has left me loving livid and forlorn. So I'm not massively plugged into this articular section of discourse, but I feel it's worth noting that Mermaids are not universally beloved among all trans people in the UK. The main criticisms are: they're run by cis people (parents of trans kids), focused a lot on parents of trans kids, and have a bit of a tendency towards well-meaning liberal missteps like making statements in favour of working for the police and raising money to run a cheery poster campaign. I don't have a strong opinion but then i've not really had any involvement with them directly Anyway here are some general links for fundraisers I've seen in the UK recently and other UK organisations relating to trans issues (there are doubtless more that I've missed as this stuff is very decentralised and/or disorganised and/or rampantly underresourced): Exist Loudly Fund to Support Queer Black YP UK QTIBIPOC Emergency relief & Hardship Fund Gendered Intelligence Queercare Stonewall, who actually care about trans people now (not exactly free from the criticisms mermaids get, mind, re: decorous moderation) Transgender NI, who are actually requesting that all funds that would be donated to them this month are sent to the Movement of Asylum Seekers in Ireland instead (see tweet here) The #trancrowdfund tag on twitter for a more decentralised approach Also there may be specific trans support organisations locally in your area which may also be worth a shout, wherever you live. a few google searches for "transgender [insert area here]" may find some local groups or projects Angepain fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Jun 14, 2020 |
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OwlFancier posted:I mean, the state by state control of the cops I think would surely mean that they would not all follow the same way? As I never tire of pointing out, it isn't state by state; every lovely little 1000 population 'city', town or village has one, colleges have them, counties all have 'sheriff's departments' and yes, states have them too. There are about 15,000 police departments in the US but nobody knows exactly how many. I think this is part of the problem.
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Unkempt posted:As I never tire of pointing out, it isn't state by state; every lovely little 1000 population 'city', town or village has one, colleges have them, counties all have 'sheriff's departments' and yes, states have them too. There are about 15,000 police departments in the US but nobody knows exactly how many. I think this is part of the problem. Jippa posted:It's david runciman and helen thompson who are cambridge professors. They seem to try and keep their own opinions very neutral.
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OwlFancier posted:Lol people are pointing out the britain first lot spelled britain wrong on their flag yesterday. Very on brand.
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Don't forget in lots of places the sheriff is an elected position that requires nothing else because that of course makes sense
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Guavanaut posted:There's parts of the US that still haven't properly moved past the "any rear end in a top hat with enough local support can declare himself sheriff and start licensing deputies" phase of policing. He (forde) was saying stuff like "twitter isn't real life" in reference to boris being ill and "corbyn supporters weren't serious about politics" in reference to how great starmer was. He seems exactly the sort that talks about "6th form politics".
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Twitter 'not real' but the stuff in his big brain about what everyone in the UK is really thinking is true and real and strong.
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Mebh posted:Thanks all, pretty much what I figured. Just wanted a sounding board incase I missed something obvious. I had a cat do this to me once, it resorted to normal behaviour within a day or two. If your mama can handle it I think just feeding treats and talking nearby is a good way to rebuild trust and just waiting for the cat to calm down again is usually good. I've been in a bit of a flap about my cat recently as he's scared of my new housemate and has been hanging out outside all day and losing weight - I made sure it had a sheltered space nobody could go to (cleared some space under my bed) and just been feeding more treats. Also just playing my awful music constantly has been soothing rather than hearing new housemate shout at his friends on his Xbox all day.
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