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babypolis posted:Bennet’s dismissal even alarmed—of all people—rocker Sean Ono Lennon. “This is the end for you guys,” John Lennon’s younger son tweeted in what might have been the unkindest cut of all. “Firing someone for allowing different opinions in your paper means you are no longer a real news paper [sic]. It’s been fun. You had a good run. The best in fact. R.I.P.” Sean Lennon isn't the best child of a musician in the world. In fact, he's not the best child of a musician in the Beatles.
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cool dance moves posted:This is textual soyface
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Jun 14, 2020 09:12
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The sad thing about Taibbi is that his general analysis of certain trends in the media is correct, but he seems to fail to realize that he's followed the exact same trends, just in the opposite direction for the purpose of contrarianism.
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Jun 14, 2020 09:14
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:whoever created/runs this account deserves their own pulitzer How do they not have to issue corrections to do that
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Jun 14, 2020 10:09
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dex_sda posted:How do they not have to issue corrections to do that again, all of the editing at the new york times is actually done at a strip mall in a florida swamp town
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Jun 14, 2020 10:20
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just checked and lol theyre trying to hire copy editors with at least five years experience starting at 35k a year and its gainesville so you dont even get any social clout out of it
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Jun 14, 2020 10:27
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i guess the headline writers wake up in the morning while still drunk and accidentally write accurate headlines and then when they start sobering up the hack propagandist instincts kick in and the editing starts
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Jun 14, 2020 10:32
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Bro Dad posted:again, all of the editing at the new york times is actually done at a strip mall in a florida swamp town Lol that owns
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Jun 14, 2020 10:45
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dex_sda posted:Lol that owns yeah i exaggerated about the strip mall apparently instead its an office building on a rural road, hidden from the street, with a gated parking lot and fake name on the sign out front all so the owners can maintain editorial control over the paper and keep the union weak
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Jun 14, 2020 11:02
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Lee Fang absolutely is a racist and I’m baffled people are trying to defend some no name racist. at least for Matt he’s a friend so posting a misleading article makes sense. but goons defending him is baffling
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Jun 14, 2020 12:14
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Lmao https://twitter.com/zei_squirrel/status/1272141581144002560?s=19
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Jun 14, 2020 13:21
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Bro Dad posted:just checked and lol theyre trying to hire copy editors with at least five years experience starting at 35k a year Holy poo poo gently caress off nyt, 5 years of experience for 35k, with no social networking benefit? May the earth swallow that lousy paper whole
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Jun 14, 2020 15:59
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Bro Dad posted:just checked and lol theyre trying to hire copy editors with at least five years experience starting at 35k a year loving yikes
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Jun 14, 2020 16:03
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cool dance moves posted:Holy poo poo gently caress off nyt, 5 years of experience for 35k, with no social networking benefit? May the earth swallow that lousy paper whole ZipRecruiter posted:At least 5 years' experience as an assigning/copy editor for a professional publication. lol imagine having to commute into fuckign gainesville at 3am to edit another one of bret stephens' oopsies
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Jun 14, 2020 16:23
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deep understanding of how the times covers events feels like the bigger red flag
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Jun 14, 2020 16:24
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Living in gainesville florida past the age of 25 is some sort of divine punishment
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Jun 14, 2020 16:58
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if they actually let the drunk college swamp kids do the editing it'd probably be better than the gen-x gently caress ups they probably have working at their gainesville office
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Jun 14, 2020 17:06
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Taibbi's had some conservative twitter assholes whip up a bunch of rear end in a top hat liberals into trying to #MeToo him over a fictional book he co-wrote now 20 years ago and clearly that stuck with him to the point that he's going wild now that he isn't under any kind of editorial supervision. Good journalist, but even in terms of following that article it needs some serious editing. What happens at the bon apettit test kitchen is loving meaningless compared to a guy using the paper of record to call for the military to put down protesters.
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Jun 14, 2020 17:21
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You really need to work on your reading comprehension MP. I don't see how it's possible to read this:quote:It’s been learned in these episodes we may freely misreport reality, so long as the political goal is righteous. It was okay to publish the now-discredited Steele dossier, because Trump is scum. MSNBC could put Michael Avenatti on live TV to air a gang rape allegation without vetting, because who cared about Brett Kavanaugh – except press airing of that wild story ended up being a crucial factor in convincing key swing voter Maine Senator Susan Collins the anti-Kavanaugh campaign was a political hit job (the allegation illustrated, “why the presumption of innocence is so important,” she said). Reporters who were anxious to prevent Kavanaugh’s appointment, in other words, ended up helping it happen through overzealousness. and come away thinking this: Main Paineframe posted:he also seems to think that the Kavanaugh accusation was fake without some serious unexamined prejudices in the mix. I don't need to explain away anything Taibbi said, or put a different spin on it. Your interpretation is facially wrong. Reading the other thing as 'Taibbi largely agrees with Tom Cotton' is almost as nuts.
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Jun 14, 2020 17:25
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An interesting thread on a "Forward" editor marginalizing black Jewish writers. https://twitter.com/PopChassid/status/1272196646869352449 It seems at first like you could chalk it up to misunderstanding and just personal problems between former friends, but then you find out she's done exactly the same thing to several other black Jewish writers.
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Jun 14, 2020 17:32
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hell even the Bon Appetit thing is basically jockeying for position amongst generations of elites, considering that Sohla (the person who kicked it all off) went to Harvard but hides it well
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Jun 14, 2020 17:34
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Troy Queef posted:hell even the Bon Appetit thing is basically jockeying for position amongst generations of elites, considering that Sohla (the person who kicked it all off) went to Harvard but hides it well Claire's the one who went to Harvard
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Jun 14, 2020 17:41
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Troy Queef posted:hell even the Bon Appetit thing is basically jockeying for position amongst generations of elites, considering that Sohla (the person who kicked it all off) went to Harvard but hides it well it becomes increasingly hard to care about some of this poo poo when it just seems like it's high school drama replicated across a couple of media centre cities where everyone's dad makes minimum $250k a year. All over the right to be the one who gets to run the school newspaper. Mixing in stories where people are actually getting poo poo on is a great way to launder your own backbiting as some kind of just cause.
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Jun 14, 2020 17:43
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Eugene V. Dubstep posted:You really need to work on your reading comprehension MP. I don't see how it's possible to read this: the real damning thing about that quote is that he called susan collins a "swing vote" as if there was the slightest possibility that she wasn't going to confirm a republican nominated judge
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Jun 14, 2020 17:52
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Dreylad posted:it becomes increasingly hard to care about some of this poo poo when it just seems like it's high school drama replicated across a couple of media centre cities where everyone's dad makes minimum $250k a year. All over the right to be the one who gets to run the school newspaper. it's lunchroom politics at Glenbrook North/Upper Arlington/Edina/(insert bougie public high school in your town here) all over again, except because of social media and the fact that these people all have large followings now we all have to listen to people demand to get invited to Jenna's house on Saturday while her parents are in Barbados.
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Jun 14, 2020 17:59
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Troy Queef posted:it's lunchroom politics at Glenbrook North/Upper Arlington/Edina/(insert bougie public high school in your town here) all over again, except because of social media and the fact that these people all have large followings now we all have to listen to people demand to get invited to Jenna's house on Saturday while her parents are in Barbados. I wish we could abolish social media entirely and reduce these idiots to having their platform be a soapbox on the corner of a city street
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Jun 14, 2020 18:01
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https://twitter.com/PopChassid/status/1272196646869352449?s=19 https://twitter.com/BrandyLJensen/status/1272206092861419522?s=19
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Dreylad posted:I wish we could abolish social media entirely and reduce these idiots to having their platform be a soapbox on the corner of a city street that, or have more disclosure about their backgrounds and educations. i bet you a shiny new dime most of the same people getting involved in all this and slating Taibbi also sprinted to the defense of Jia Tolentino and took her at her word that her parents were only giving fellow Pinoys a chance at improving themselves in the US, and not, you know, enriching themselves/funding their daughter's lifestyle via human trafficking.
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Jun 14, 2020 18:08
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Troy Queef posted:that, or have more disclosure about their backgrounds and educations. i bet you a shiny new dime most of the same people getting involved in all this and slating Taibbi also sprinted to the defense of Jia Tolentino and took her at her word that her parents were only giving fellow Pinoys a chance at improving themselves in the US, and not, you know, enriching themselves/funding their daughter's lifestyle via human trafficking. tbqh iv been disappointed by how many otherwise smart people have leapt to Taibbis defense over his dumb article because one of the ways you become a dipshit is you have everyone around you kissing your rear end telling you that you can do no wrong. it's something both #woke libs who went to ivys and nominal socialists do. you are living in a bubble if you think "angry twitter mobs" are a problem even if you are approaching from a socialist perspective edit: that is to say; I want taibbi to remain a good writer and part of that is being willing to say "this sucks compared to your other stuff"
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Jun 14, 2020 18:13
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hahah she called Eli Valley a misogynist and borderline Jew hater.
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Jun 14, 2020 18:14
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Eugene V. Dubstep posted:You really need to work on your reading comprehension MP. I don't see how it's possible to read this: Thinking that Collins was ever going to do anything but "reluctantly" vote in kavanaugh no matter what did or didn't happen is pretty hilarious
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CharlestheHammer posted:Lee Fang absolutely is a racist and I’m baffled people are trying to defend some no name racist. Get hosed lib Lee fang does great work exposing the establishment
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Jun 14, 2020 18:52
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You can listen to Taibbi struggle through this take on Useful Idiots this week. Halper doesn't even really challenge him much on it and he still has trouble making his point.
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Jun 14, 2020 19:04
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Eugene V. Dubstep posted:You really need to work on your reading comprehension MP. I don't see how it's possible to read this: But Taibbi's pretty obviously wrong here. All you need to do to disprove him is compare the Kavanaugh vote (50-48) to the Gorsuch vote (54-45). The Kavanaugh hearings moved votes, just not enough. The real argument you could make there is that it cost Dems Senate seats, but to take Collins at her word is lame.
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pospysyl posted:But Taibbi's pretty obviously wrong here. All you need to do to disprove him is compare the Kavanaugh vote (50-48) to the Gorsuch vote (54-45). The Kavanaugh hearings moved votes, just not enough. The real argument you could make there is that it cost Dems Senate seats, but to take Collins at her word is lame. The article is mostly trash but I think his point is running with the Avenatti stuff (as opposed to dr Ford) gave Collins some political cover to hide behind and justify her vote which she wouldn’t have had otherwise and would have needed to grasp for an even flimsier justification
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Jun 14, 2020 19:19
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dex_sda posted:How do they not have to issue corrections to do that  this is a 'live updates' story, so it's a live feed that adds new information frequently, and they put up a new headline with each new event
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Jun 14, 2020 19:20
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Tunicate posted:
This is true like 50% of the time someone posts that account. "Oh wow look at how much they're reframing this story!!!!!" Most stories get updated throughout the day to maximize the social media sharing impact rather than writing a whole new story when new info comes up. PostNouveau has issued a correction as of 19:26 on Jun 14, 2020 |
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Jun 14, 2020 19:24
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this is just some pathetic, sorry poo poo
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Jun 14, 2020 19:28
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RaySmuckles posted:this is just some pathetic, sorry poo poo I don't think organizational racism is not always as clear cut as "Only white people have titles that alow them to get paid fairly" or "the department head said they weren't asking the black anchor to 'pick cotton' during contract disputes." This lady's pissed because she wants her "black friends" to shield her from criticism, but she knows she can't say "I have black friends" or she'll get laughed at. They have to do it actively, and when they don't, she gets pissed off. She's a gatekeeper in Jewish media and is hoping to use that to get a free pass. If you put one of these under a microscope, sure it looks like just some drama, but the fact she's done it to multiple black writers means something. I've worked with several men who run their own companies and have had "personality conflicts" with every woman they've ever worked with. Any single case you couldn't pin on sexism, but there's a common denominator.
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A4R8 posted:Get hosed lib he does he also has really reactionary views about race you don’t have to act like he’s perfect just because he’s a good journalist
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