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Alaois posted:yeah I'm not seeing a problem here Neither does Daredevil
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Jun 14, 2020 08:46
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Jun 14, 2020 10:16
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OnimaruXLR posted:does anyone here have any interest in figuring out how much force would be generated by a 180-220 pound man launching a choke with a nigh-unbreakable cord at someone who is charging him that probably weighs between 800 pounds and a ton and a half and is moving between 40-50 mph? In case anyone does, according to the OHOTMU Deluxe Edition Daredevil is 6 feet even and 200 pounds and Rhino is 6'5", 710 pounds.
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Jun 14, 2020 19:12
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OnimaruXLR posted:does anyone here have any interest in figuring out how much force would be generated by a 180-220 pound man launching a choke with a nigh-unbreakable cord at someone who is charging him that probably weighs between 800 pounds and a ton and a half and is moving between 40-50 mph? F = ma So, to stop Rhino (let's say it takes 1 second to drop him from 31 mph to 0 for simplicity's sake), Matt needs to generate 322 kg * -14 m/s^2 = -4508 N, which is to say 4508 N or a bit over 1000 lbs-force in the opposite direction of movement. I think. I haven't actually done physics in a long time, and I never took a dynamics class.
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Jun 15, 2020 04:20
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Endless Mike posted:I'll accept that Rhino can run at the speed of a rhino, which maxes out around 31 mph. Yeah, if Rhino is a perfect sphere traveling in a frictionless environment. Or you get the guy who's running on street to choke and be distracted from the effort if putting one foot in front of the other. Air Skwirl fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Jun 15, 2020 |
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Jun 15, 2020 05:32
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Endless Mike posted:I'll accept that Rhino can run at the speed of a rhino, which maxes out around 31 mph. According to the Hulk 2004 OHOTMU, Rhino can run at "nearly 100 miles per hour, but cannot stop suddenly or make sharp turns while running at high speeds."
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Jun 15, 2020 05:39
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I didn't catch it at first but I love how Daredevil fires his baton into the air before running to save Rhino, and it comes down and bonks Bullseye in the top of the head. Like what the gently caress even is Matt's power at this point? He misses less than Bullseye.
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Jun 15, 2020 08:48
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Sonar-sight gives you pinpoint precision, didn't you know?
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Jun 15, 2020 08:52
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Matt got a bit of Domino's luck as a residual from the time they hooked up
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Jun 15, 2020 09:15
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Isn't it established that he has super-proprioception in addition to his sonar and "hightened senses"?
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Jun 15, 2020 13:15
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Skwirl posted:Yeah, if Rhino is a perfect sphere traveling in a frictionless environment. Or you get the guy who's running on street to choke and be distracted from the effort if putting one foot in front of the other. Look at this goon who wants people to think he's not a frictionless sphere
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Jun 15, 2020 13:34
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Edit: Hey this isn't the funny panels thread! 
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Jun 15, 2020 13:43
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Endless Mike posted:I'll accept that Rhino can run at the speed of a rhino, which maxes out around 31 mph. You don’t need to exert force to completely stop him, he’s torquing him at the neck to topple him over. Then he’ll skid to a stop. If you clothesline someone that’s running you aren’t slapping them with an equal and opposite force.
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Jun 15, 2020 13:46
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Yes, you don't need to stop everything, just the head. That's about 8% which sounds way more manageable.
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Jun 15, 2020 14:42
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Also it's like flipping someone by torquing their wrist. They will follow the motion of the torque because they don't want their wrist snapped. As soon as Rhino felt himself at risk of being garroted he'd want to follow the backwards motion towards Daredevil.
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Jun 15, 2020 17:20
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I feel like Spider-Man has done the same trick but since it's Spider-Man and things have to be wacky, Rhino just kept running with Pete hanging on for dear life behind him.
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Jun 15, 2020 18:06
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John Dyne posted:I didn't catch it at first but I love how Daredevil fires his baton into the air before running to save Rhino, and it comes down and bonks Bullseye in the top of the head. haha I also missed that, thanks for mentioning it
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John Dyne posted:I feel like Spider-Man has done the same trick but since it's Spider-Man and things have to be wacky, Rhino just kept running with Pete hanging on for dear life behind him. Peter is generally either not skilled or not severe enough to try and choke out his villains, depending on the tone and context of the story This is honestly one of the things I hated about when Slott tried to teach him kung fu. Spider-Man getting an in depth combat education is weird to me because he really doesn't need it, he's basically on the tier below all the world-breakers already. It's probably just a stupid fanboy quibble of mine, like whenever Batman makes ongoing use out of power armor instead of using it on special occasions. If these characters are going to exist in a state of quasi-stasis and never evolve that much, I think it makes a lot of sense for them to stay in their drat lanes. Or if you're going to expand their scope, do it in a good way like Batman Inc.
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OnimaruXLR posted:Peter is generally either not skilled or not severe enough to try and choke out his villains, depending on the tone and context of the story That one time wasn't so bad though because hadn't he lost his Spider Sense? There was at least one other time (beyond off-hand mentions of being trained) where he was getting martial arts lessons and yeah, it's exactly the BS you're talking about. For one, why would fans want him to look like a martial artist? His fighting style is unique enough you could recognize it in silhouette. He has trademark visual appeal. But beyond that his fighting style is his power set. His Spider Sense ties into his reflexes and ties into his agiity and ties into his strength so that he can fight in a way that normally wouldn't make a lick of sense but is very effective for him.
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Right. It's kind of like teaching Flash Karate. He can already throw hundreds of punches in the blink of an eye. What is style going to add to that? Now Superman on the other hand, he could use a little finesse seeing as he is either fighting other guys in his class, or depowered every other issue, so a little training makes sense.
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CzarChasm posted:Right. It's kind of like teaching Flash Karate. He can already throw hundreds of punches in the blink of an eye. What is style going to add to that? Remember when Wally learned the Dim Mak death touch and then it was never mentioned again? What the hell was up with that anyway?
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Jun 15, 2020 22:21
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It's fun, when it's downright ridiculous. I want a story which reveals that Galactus is really good at Krav Maga.
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Jun 15, 2020 22:25
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CzarChasm posted:Right. It's kind of like teaching Flash Karate. He can already throw hundreds of punches in the blink of an eye. What is style going to add to that? Superman knows some Kryptonian style of martial Arts iirc
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ImpAtom posted:Superman knows some Kryptonian style of martial Arts iirc He's got some kind of super intellect and super memory and has read like every book so I'm sure he could give Batman a run for his money in an MMA fight if he got depowered.
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Jun 15, 2020 22:40
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ImpAtom posted:Superman knows some Kryptonian style of martial Arts iirc Do we ever see it? Like those Iron Fist move narration boxes, like "Kandorian Suplex". Lobok fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Jun 15, 2020 |
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Jun 15, 2020 23:19
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Lobok posted:Do we ever see it? Like those Iron Fist move narration boxes, like "Kandorian Suplex".  Mostly stuff like this with the occasional weird trippy kung-fu trip.
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Jun 15, 2020 23:41
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Lurdiak posted:He's got some kind of super intellect and super memory and has read like every book so I'm sure he could give Batman a run for his money in an MMA fight if he got depowered. I mean, early UFC shows had a lot of people who had read a lot of martial arts books too. It didnt necessarily go well for them against people who had actual experience.
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Lobok posted:Do we ever see it? Like those Iron Fist move narration boxes, like "Kandorian Suplex".
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Jun 15, 2020 23:55
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The word Torquasm brings up many mental images, none of which involve kung-fu.
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ImpAtom posted:Superman knows some Kryptonian style of martial Arts iirc Klurkor!
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Gnome de plume posted:The word Torquasm brings up many mental images, none of which involve kung-fu. On our planet it means the sensation you feel when you watch the greatest movie of all time. 
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In my mind, Superman learned how to box from* Muhammad Ali. *got the poo poo kicked out of him by
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SiKboy posted:I mean, early UFC shows had a lot of people who had read a lot of martial arts books too. It didnt necessarily go well for them against people who had actual experience. Those people were probably not Superman.
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Lobok posted:On our planet it means the sensation you feel when you watch the greatest movie of all time. Torque loving owns.
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I think it was in the Irredeemable spinoff Incorruptible, the main character, a former super villain, talks about how one time he had the bright idea to try and fight his nemesis, the Plutonian (a Superman analogue) in a zone that cancelled out both their powers. Turned out the Plutonian had become an incredibly good boxer in his spare time, and was still built like a brick shithouse without powers.
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One More Fat Nerd posted:Turned out the Plutonian had become an incredibly good boxer in his spare time, and was still built like a brick shithouse without powers. I think this has happened to Luthor more than once
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One More Fat Nerd posted:I think it was in the Irredeemable spinoff Incorruptible, the main character, a former super villain, talks about how one time he had the bright idea to try and fight his nemesis, the Plutonian (a Superman analogue) in a zone that cancelled out both their powers. -- and he finds out that even the athletic humans suddenly have a quarter of the cardio endurance they should... and that nobody can throw a rock or aim a gun worth poo poo any more... and that that cheesesteak he had for lunch before setting out to destroy the Justice League is starting to feel like, well, like he ate a bunch of rotten milk.
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Nessus posted:It goes against the purpose of the devices but I want to see a situation sometime where someone in these comics activates their doubletalk device that TAKES AWAY EVERYONE'S SUPERPOWERS -- e: speaking of depowered beatdowns: 
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Nessus posted:It goes against the purpose of the devices but I want to see a situation sometime where someone in these comics activates their doubletalk device that TAKES AWAY EVERYONE'S SUPERPOWERS -- There was a JLA special where Kobra used a body swapping machine. It ended up with Kobra in Batman's body fighting Superman in Kobra's body. Superman kicked his rear end because Kobra was pretty fit (for a Cobra Commander rip off) and he had learnt how to wreck guys like Parasite and Doomsday.
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