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DrBouvenstein posted:Are concord grapes just not available to most people? Concord season is pretty short, relatively. I guess when you're used to green and red being available all year that's what people stick with? I just found the grape jelly example really weird in that video because jelly uses juice. Sure the real fruit content in juice is very low (and almost always cut with apple) but that's not why it might not taste like grape to some people.
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Green apple has been replacing lime in various candy for decades ever since the return of Starburst jellybeans. It's a big problem
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Also since we're on the subject, blue raspberry exists because they used to color raspberry flavored things with Amaranth (not the Twitch streamer) which got linked to cancer in the late 60s and was eventually banned. At around the same time a blue food dye was finally created that was safe. Nobody knows for sure who did it first, but someone had the idea to use this new blue dye to replace the red that got banned. So boom, blue raspberry. Blue raspberries actually exist but they have nothing to do with the flavor. And they're a very dark, pretty much black color.
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Jun 15, 2020 16:40
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Peanut Butter, The Atheist's Nightmare! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504 quote:The entire food industry depends on the fact that evolution doesn't happen. 
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Aphrodite posted:Also since we're on the subject, blue raspberry exists because they used to color raspberry flavored things with Amaranth (not the Twitch streamer) which got linked to cancer in the late 60s and was eventually banned. There must be more than one kind, because I’ve had red amaranth as a micro salad, and Wikipedia says people have eaten it for thousands of years and doesn’t mention anything about ill effects.
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Torquemada posted:There must be more than one kind, because I’ve had red amaranth as a micro salad, and Wikipedia says people have eaten it for thousands of years and doesn’t mention anything about ill effects. Amaranth the dye is named for the plant since it’s the same color, it didn’t come from the plant.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Amaranth the dye is named for the plant since it’s the same color, it didn’t come from the plant. Ah ha, thanks.
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Also the dye is still legal in the UK and many other places.
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I'm going to call bullshit on Insider claiming that the "majority" of changes from teosinte to maize happened after Europeans started cultivating it. Maize was domesticated enough to be a staple for some Mesoamericans over 4,000 years ago. They cultivated a bunch of different varieties of it, including some that were specifically for popcorn. (Honestly it's weird as hell to think of ancient people eating popcorn.)  ancient maize cobs from Honduras.  15th century Incan silver sculpture. Obviously the corn cobs we have now are gigantic and the product of lots more selection and genetic engineering but c'mon. Something I just figured out today: there are people who even want to give white folks credit for corn, smdh.
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Jun 15, 2020 18:09
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I'm starting to think the colonizers get credit for poo poo they stole from cultures they brutalized!
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IIRC the watermelon thing is also bullshit, in that what's depicted in the 17th-century version is just an under-ripe watermelon by today's standards. You can see the same swirling pattern today if you just pop open a watermelon early.
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feedmyleg posted:IIRC the watermelon thing is also bullshit, in that what's depicted in the 17th-century version is just an under-ripe watermelon by today's standards. You can see the same swirling pattern today if you just pop open a watermelon early. The gently caress are you talking about?
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The Mighty Moltres posted:The gently caress are you talking about?  Pictured: not the 17th century.
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There's also like 100 varieties of watermelon. Some are still yellow and green on the inside.
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Organza Quiz posted:As far as I remember they draw a distinction between a thing evolving slightly differently to what it used to be compared to a thing turning into a completely different thing. So a creationist might be okay with the concept of us turning wolves into dogs but not that cats and dogs share an ancestor. Obviously biologically there's no difference but that's how they justify that one. They draw a distinction between "microevolution" (allowing for changes within a kind) and "macroevolution" (speciation). Of course it turns out we have observed speciation on multiple occasions (http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html) and I don't remember how they moved the goalposts for that.
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feedmyleg posted:
It's like a fractal inside!
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Wasabi the J posted:I'm starting to think the colonizers get credit for poo poo they stole from cultures they brutalized! Yeah I'm personally familiar with that, but I've never seen someone try it with friggin corn of all things. Also that swirly watermelon is grossing me out for some irrational reason. Yeccch. christmas boots posted:They draw a distinction between "microevolution" (allowing for changes within a kind) and "macroevolution" (speciation). In my experience they move the goalposts to "but have you ever seen a dog turn into a cat?!" and then declare victory.
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Telemaze posted:In my experience they move the goalposts to "but have you ever seen a dog turn into a cat?!" and then declare victory. Well for that to happen, we'd have to first have transgender dogs and cats, because I have it on good authority (8 year old niece) that all cats are girls and all dogs are boys.
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I realize the white devil will stop at nothing, but I'm pretty sure it's just a poorly researched cracked.com-tier listicle and not an attempt to claim the highly coveted corn plant
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Telemaze posted:Yeah I'm personally familiar with that, but I've never seen someone try it with friggin corn of all things. "Did you ever see a dog, turn into a cat Down by the bay?"
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Phlegmish posted:I realize the white devil will stop at nothing, but I'm pretty sure it's just a poorly researched cracked.com-tier listicle and not an attempt to claim the highly coveted corn plant
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Phlegmish posted:I realize the white devil will stop at nothing, but I'm pretty sure it's just a poorly researched cracked.com-tier listicle and not an attempt to claim the highly coveted corn plant You might think so, but this kind of casual misinformation (the implication that certain races are overwhelmingly responsible for human accomplishment) adds up and affects the way people get treated irl. If you've never been told that your race is only good for getting drunk and living off the government, you don't have to worry about that I guess. So lovely listicle or no I'm going to correct it when I see it.
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You gotta keep the devil way down in the hole
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What's next: the potato was actually developed by Latvian genius?
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Telemaze posted:You might think so, but this kind of casual misinformation (the implication that certain races are overwhelmingly responsible for human accomplishment) adds up and affects the way people get treated irl. If you've never been told that your race is only good for getting drunk and living off the government, you don't have to worry about that I guess. So lovely listicle or no I'm going to correct it when I see it. OK, I can understand that. I have actually been googling a bit and I wonder where he even got it from. I can find practically no information about the evolution of maize between 1500 and 2000. So if it makes you feel any better, as a misconception it's definitely not widespread.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:What's next: the potato was actually developed by Latvian genius? And that genius's name? Tubert Eyenstein
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Captain Hygiene posted:And that genius's name? Het Potatis
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Captain Hygiene posted:And that genius's name? Victor von Doom
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The Mighty Moltres posted:Bananas taste better when green, This is the wrongest poo poo I've ever read in my life and I will not let it go by without being called out. Also cherry is the best candy flavor.
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rydiafan posted:This is the wrongest poo poo I've ever read in my life and I will not let it go by without being called out. I can't imagine just straight up eating a green banana raw, but boiled green bananas are delicious. http://www.jamaicatravelandculture.com/food_and_drink/green_banana.htm
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Green banana talk is objectively wrong because you can't make banana bread with green bananas
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Captain Hygiene posted:Green banana talk is objectively wrong because you can't make banana bread with green bananas yeah and everyone knows the only good banana is a bread banana
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Memento posted:yeah and everyone knows the only good banana is a bread banana 
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Failed Imagineer posted:Hell they have at least one song where there aren't even any lyrics, Eddie just yarls phonemes for 5 minutes (Yellow Ledbetter, great song tho). I never knew that word was "gently caress" until now. I thought it was that picking on him was "a harmless little fun". I always thought the wording was strangely archaic... Anyway, there's a "gently caress" in https://youtu.be/ymNFyxvIdaM, buried by that Finish accent, that also went uncensored for years and years until someone finally caught on.
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EMF's "Unbelievable" had a bunch of surprisingly audible "What the gently caress (was that)?"s for all the radio play it got in 1991. Yet I don't recall eighth-grade me ever noticing. 
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Rollersnake posted:I can't imagine just straight up eating a green banana raw, but boiled green bananas are delicious. this is aka a plantain (also loving delicious sliced and fried), i think other poster was saying underripe yellow bananas are best (which is true)
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Hirayuki posted:EMF's "Unbelievable" had a bunch of surprisingly audible "What the gently caress (was that)?"s for all the radio play it got in 1991. Yet I don't recall eighth-grade me ever noticing. Wait holy poo poo THAT'S WHAT THAT DUDE WAS SAYING?! *Guitar riff* what the fu-- what the fu-- what the gently caress WAS THAT? "You're unbelievable" My kid brain ad libbed random words to fit background vocals like that and i didn't even process it as actual words, I thought it was a chopped up voice sample of an old speech or something.
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Wasabi the J posted:Wait holy poo poo THAT'S WHAT THAT DUDE WAS SAYING?! That entry also notes the profanity was never censored even as the song was used in commercials. I think I heard one recently and primly pointed out to my family what they were actually saying. Now you can, too! Hirayuki has a new favorite as of 02:23 on Jun 16, 2020 |
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I always remember Creep by Radiohead being one of the first songs with a really blatant 'gently caress' in it that got a lot of airtime on the Australian youth radio, I'm sure there were other songs before that but that's definitely the one that stood out to me. Can anyone think of some other examples that were played regularly, and not just a "here's a subversive track for you guys"
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I think John Lennon's Working Class Hero is the first one I remember just straight-up tossing out the f-bomb on Old People Radio (Money was by far the most common as far as epithets go, but it was the less offensive "bullshit")
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