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lags posted:I know the tomahawk is the price point master but is there any reason not to grab ASUS ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING Socket AM4 if i find stock? It's ok for a 3600 or 3700X, not great for larger CPUs. Just make sure you're getting the -F and not the PRIME -A. If you're ok with a mATX board (which on B450 isn't a huge loss) the Gigabute B450 Aorus M looks like it has stock in canada. It's about the same quality as the asus and much cheaper.
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i've got a friend who has gotten getting a new gaming/video editing PC funded by a trust fund ish type situation (i don't understand it, technically it isn't a trust fund) this is the current pcparts list they've got: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yFmbk6 the big issue is that apparently the motherboard doesn't actually exist (it's out of stock everywhere or something?) and any replacement motherboard they're having similar issues with, and of course without the motherboard the whole build falls apart does anyone have any good recommendations for a build at a similar performance/cost level? the PC is primarily for video editing but gaming is a big secondary appeal. if all the parts can be procured from the same place ("in one transaction") that would be preferred but i think at this point they're mostly looking for "all of the parts can reasonably be bought from somewhere somehow"
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ninjewtsu posted:the big issue is that apparently the motherboard doesn't actually exist (it's out of stock everywhere or something?) and any replacement motherboard they're having similar issues with, and of course without the motherboard the whole build falls apart wait until the 16th, buy a B550 motherboard
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Klyith posted:wait until the 16th, buy a B550 motherboard if im just gonna use a 3600 or 3600XT is there a reason for me to do this? i just ordered that exact mobo and was gonna pick it up tomorrow, though i can cancel as i havent paid for it Verviticus fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Jun 14, 2020 |
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Roller Coast Guard posted:Is the 'bottleneck calculator' on https://www.pc-builds.com at all worth paying attention to? Probably not? I'll do some more poking when it's not 4:30am, but bottlenecks are dependent on the entire system config and the software in question. While games follow a general trend that you might be able to assign a number to, things like strategy games have completely different needs and there are notable performance outliers here and there, most notably but not exclusively the latest assassin's Creed games. In non-gaming workloads it's all about the needs of your software. Generally it's just best to look up benchmarks for the programs you're looking to run, or just ask the thread.
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My GTX970 is starting to look a bit long in the tooth, looking for an upgrade to go along with my 1080p 144hz new monitor, primarily for playing modern, more intensive games like rdr2. 9-series doesn't support g-sync compatible/freesync else I'd likely stick with it a while longer. Mobo: Asus Prime X470 pro CPU: Ryzen5 2600 RAM: 16gb Corsair lpx Power: EVGA SuperNOVA 550 G2, 80+ GOLD 550W Flexible on budget but not looking to go up to 1440p any time soon. Spuckuk fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Jun 14, 2020 |
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So this is the first time I’m putting together a system that isn’t a prebuilt and I’m cannibalizing some parts out of my previous desktop that went poof. I’m trying to future proof as much as is reasonable, but I don’t trust my choices since this is the first time I’m doing something like this so I would like some feedback. I also know a lot of stuff is out of stock right now so it might e better to wait a bit. My nearest Microcenter is about a three-hour drive away, but I’m willing to make it if it can save me a bit, my car is really good with gas. I’m in the US, I primarily use my computer for gaming and surfing (it doesn’t need to run at ultra high graphics all the time, but I’d like fairly clear picture) but I also do 3D modeling (I farm my renders so I’m not terribly worried about turnaround time, and I primarily work with Blender) and some art as a hobby as well as programming. My budget is at ~ $1000. Monitor is an LG24GM77 which I already own. I have a USB mouse and keyboard, although the keyboard sucks and I’ll take recommendations for a new one. (I would like rainbow LED keys if possible, because I’m a giant dork.) The PSU I already own because it was in replacing the PSU in my prebuilt that my mobo gave up the ghost. It’s an EVGA G5 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified. I have an optical drive that I’m cannibalizing, as well as the seagate HDD and my external SSD. I also have a set of Corsair Vengeance RGB pro 2x8 DDR4 RAM sticks that are ~ a year old. The things I am looking at buying are:
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Spuckuk posted:My GTX970 is starting to look a bit long in the tooth, looking for an upgrade to go along with my 1080p 144hz new monitor, primarily for playing modern, more intensive games like rdr2. 9-series doesn't support g-sync compatible/freesync else I'd likely stick with it a while longer. Just upgrade the video card, keep everything else. General optimum buys for video cards: • 1660 Super • 5700XT • 2070 Super For a while the advice for deciding between a 5700XT and 2070S was whether you care about raytrace lights or not. But with the upcoming generation of GPUs having new / improved raytrace hardware that designed more to a universal spec, the new answer for caring about raytrace might be "wait until the end of the year, buy new expensive card then". DreamingofRoses posted:The things I am looking at buying are: Motherboard: B550 motherboards are becoming available in mere days. One of those will be nicer. Cooling: cheap $30 heatsinks like an arctic 33/34 or CM hyper 212 are good enough to be very quiet at idle. If you want something better, look for a Scythe Mugen 5 rev B or a Noctua NH-U14S. A 3700X doesn't need the biggest mega-size heatsinks like a Noctua D15 unless you're fanatic about noise or want to buy it as the last heatsink you'll ever need. The case you're looking at doesn't really need any other fans than what it comes with.
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Klyith posted:Good advice. Ty!
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Verviticus posted:if im just gonna use a 3600 or 3600XT is there a reason for me to do this? i just ordered that exact mobo and was gonna pick it up tomorrow, though i can cancel as i havent paid for it If you happen to want to upgrade to a new processor 3 years from now it will likely be fine on a B550. Good to be able to do it just in case.
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($167.00 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL15 Memory ($80.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 580 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($174.98 @ Newegg) Case: NZXT H1 ($349.99) Thoughts on this build? I'd really like to keep the total cost under $1k because I have to also buy a desk, keyboard, mouse, and monitor. The only thing that I've ordered so far is the H1 case. I would like to go cheap on the video card so that I can upgrade it next year when prices are cheaper (if needed). Also interested in if I should go for the 550i motherboard or wait for a 450i to restock. I plan to use the PC for playing blizzard games, and maybe some FPS like Modern Warfare or Halo. I usually play games on the lowest or medium settings depending on what my computer can handle.
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OP needs updated now that the 10th gen is out and I don't want the whole thing to just be my opinion on things, so this here's a solicitation for input on the below. "Intel's 10th gen is now out, bringing most notably significant price cuts across the stack while retaining the absolute performance crown for gaming. That said, there's still a price premium and many system configurations will not be able to leverage the additional headroom. They're worth considering, but unless you're building a system for absolute maximum performance or are willing to turn down settings / resolution, you're still probably better off with a 3600." For reference, cross-referencing GN reviews suggests a 1080 (≈2070) would be the limiting factor in a system with either a 3600 or 10600k. Differences in benchmarks between CPU and GPU reviews and older components not getting re-benched when a new benchmark suite gets deployed makes further such comparisons difficult.
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laxbro posted:Also interested in if I should go for the 550i motherboard or wait for a 450i to restock. On an ITX board B550 doesn't seem like a big deal, the better options for splitting PCIe lanes is pointless on a board with only one PCIe slot. However, you can't know for sure if the B450 version even will restock. B550 is supposed to replace B450, and I think Asus might be the most eager to move on from B450. Also the list price on newegg for the Asus B550 is stupid high, you can get an X570 ITX for $10 less. edit: Some Goon posted:OP needs updated now that the 10th gen is out and I don't want the whole thing to just be my opinion on things, so this here's a solicitation for input on the below. The 3600 remains the best choice for the mid-range $1000-1200 build, because an extra $100 on the GPU gets you a lot more real performance than a better CPU. The 10600K & KF are good, and with the KF being priced matched to the 3700X it's easy to give it the nod for the $1500 gaming system. There are Z490 boards that look pretty decent at $150-200 so the mobo cost isn't outrageous either. Someone who wants productivity over gaming would still take the 3700X, and the 3700X's semi-decent included heatsink is also a point in its favor. But for many of the people ITT who have games as their only demanding app, the 10600 K&KF are Intel's first good buys in a long time. I doubt the 3600XT is gonna make up major ground on the 10600 either. edit 2: also I expect opinions to need more revisions over time, prices are still pretty hosed up. the B550 mobos launching at extremely stupid pandemic prices is not great for AMD. Klyith fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Jun 15, 2020 |
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Klyith posted:If you're eventually going to have a spare 1080ti -- which will easily cover the 1080p 144hz requirement -- you could save a lot of money by going with an iGPU for the time being. An intel CPU might be the right choice for you in that case, since the only AMDs with iGPU are kinda weedy 4-cores still. Hey thanks for the help  The price is definitely where I was looking to be. How does this compare to a system with the following? AMD Ryzen 3 3250U 2.6ghz 8 GB Ram GPU: AMD Vega 3 Motherboard: HP 8673 This is the All in One my daughter is using, and when I saw the frame rate while she was playing minecraft dungeon, I was surprised how crappy it looked. Dial M for MURDER fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Jun 15, 2020 |
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Dial M for MURDER posted:Hey thanks for the help So, my bet is that on that system the biggest problem is actually the ram. The game needs 8GB minimum + 2GB video RAM, which on a system with an iGPU is all main memory. But also it probably only has one stick of ram, which means it is running in one channel mode. Adding a 2nd stick of memory and it can do dual-channel mode for 2x the bandwidth, which is pretty critical when CPU and iGPU have to share. It's still not gonna look great compared to a system with a dedicated GPU, but it'll be way better than now. Assuming the all in one is this system or one like it, you want a laptop type memory stick (SODIMM). That's just $33 for another 8GB. edit: you should check that it only has 1 ram stick with CPU-Z before buying, it looks like some versions of HP AIO have 1 stick and some have 2. Load CPU-Z, switch to the memory tab, and near the top is says "Channel #:" and either Single or Dual. Klyith fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Jun 15, 2020 |
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Klyith posted:So, my bet is that on that system the biggest problem is actually the ram. The game needs 8GB minimum + 2GB video RAM, which on a system with an iGPU is all main memory. But also it probably only has one stick of ram, which means it is running in one channel mode. Adding a 2nd stick of memory and it can do dual-channel mode for 2x the bandwidth, which is pretty critical when CPU and iGPU have to share. Yeah I think that's pretty much the one she is using. I just worry that if it's struggling now, that later it's gonna be useless. We just bought the All in One, so we can bring it back for a full refund. That's why I'm thinking about instead building a better system that can be upgraded. I would just look silly if I built a system that looked worse (for now) than what we had. Dial M for MURDER fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Jun 15, 2020 |
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Dial M for MURDER posted:Yeah I think that's pretty much the one she is using. I just worry that if it's struggling now, that later it's gonna be useless. We just bought the All in One, so we can bring it back for a full refund. That's why I'm thinking about instead building a better system that can be upgraded. I would just look silly if I built a system that looked worse (for now) than what we had. Ok, hmm. You probably should have been a bit more detailed about the situation in the first place. I wasn't sure if it was the kids gaming or you or what. Now I don't know about the 10400, because its iGPU is even worse than what's on your Ryzen 3250 right now (intel cannot make a good GPU to save their lives). Though maybe it would be about equal to the 3250 with the 1 ram stick holding it back. So until you had your 1080 free it wouldn't be an upgrade at all. So the other direction to go is building with a Ryzen 3400G. It has way more iGPU power than the 3250. Still isn't 1080p/144hz capable without the 1080, but it'll handle minecraft dungeons just fine. The 10400 is better in the future, but the 3400G is better now. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Best Buy) CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 Blue 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler ($25.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($93.98 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($64.98 @ Amazon) Case: Fractal Design Focus G Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($63.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair CV 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($60.00 @ Amazon) Total: $528.91 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-14 22:26 EDT-0400 And of course you can upgrade the CPU at some point if the 3400G's 4 core becomes limiting. e: changed the PSU, because B&H are drat liars Klyith fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Jun 15, 2020 |
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Wow that is great! So it's better and cheaper? That seems like a deal to me haha. Unless you think there are any other changes to be made I'll probably go with that. Thanks for all your help I don't really keep up with computer stuff until it's time for me to upgrade mine.
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Klyith posted:wait until the 16th, buy a B550 motherboard only the most expensive ones of these are showing up in stock now lmao EDIT: wait but it's showing that they'll be in stock on the 16th? so i guess this just means preorders are disabled now? huh ninjewtsu fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Jun 15, 2020 |
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I called Canada computers and asked when they'd get b550 chipset boards in stock and he didn't even know what I was talking about. Thanks, Obama.
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Hey not sure if anyone remembers me but i was the guy a while ago with the ryzen 3700x that was idling kinda hot for no particular reason. I found out why. It was Corsair ICUE i think. Basically it seems to run constant hardware monitoring that causes the CPU to think its under a lot of load and needs a lot of power according to what i could find, and corsair dont look like they want to add an option to disable that feature. I imagine that really sucks if you have like a corsair cooler and not just a mouse and keyboard like i do, so i was able to disable icue and now i idle around 35 degrees with fans at their lowest speed, which feels a lot more acceptable.
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Klyith posted:Just upgrade the video card, keep everything else. General optimum buys for video cards: cheers, just what I was looking for!
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Kullik posted:Hey not sure if anyone remembers me but i was the guy a while ago with the ryzen 3700x that was idling kinda hot for no particular reason. And it worked! Thank you!
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Okay, just about to do my first build as my final part is supposed to arrive today, after weeks of delivery pending purgatory. Unfortunately I am still kind of tech illiterate, so for the AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor I need to know whether I am going for a 32 or 64bit OS. Its probably the 64 bit, but  \/Thanks Ashsaber fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Jun 15, 2020 |
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f im getting 32gb of ram for a b450 tomahawk and a 3600, does it matter at all if its 4x8 or 2x16? i assume just go for whatever's cheaper? edit: actually, different question - is there a difference between https://www.newegg.ca/crucial-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820156224?Item=N82E16820156224 and https://www.newegg.ca/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164176?Item=N82E16820164176 other than the annoying casing? Verviticus fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Jun 16, 2020 |
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Well, Good News: After bumbling around for a couple hours I was able to complete my build, and holy poo poo it actually booted! It installed the OS with no issues (though I didn't go online to validate the key)! It boots in like >10 seconds compared to the 30 or so my old (current) one does. Bad news: I have no idea how to get it to recognize the HDD that is installed, so I can store more low priority stuff. Going to take it to professionals to get that working, and also do stuff like install driver updates, tidy up my terrible cabling, and make sure my fan setup isn't going to cause anything to melt three days in.
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Verviticus posted:if im getting 32gb of ram for a b450 tomahawk and a 3600, does it matter at all if its 4x8 or 2x16? i assume just go for whatever's cheaper? 2x16 is better, though it'll likely be a bit more expensive. 4 ram sticks are harder for the controller to drive so it's not uncommon that it has to reduce speed or timings to compensate.
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Klyith posted:2x16 is better, though it'll likely be a bit more expensive. 4 ram sticks are harder for the controller to drive so it's not uncommon that it has to reduce speed or timings to compensate. ok cool is there a difference between https://www.newegg.ca/crucial-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820156224?Item=N82E16820156224 and https://www.newegg.ca/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164176?Item=N82E16820164176 other than the annoying casing? edit: oh, i guess the timings are a lot worse on the stuff without the casing. ah poo poo buying parts up here is such a goddamn hassle Verviticus fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Jun 16, 2020 |
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Verviticus posted:ah poo poo buying parts up here is such a goddamn hassle If you are looking at getting 32gb of ram, I'd go with this set of 2. It's reasonably fast and is supposedly AMD-optimized. 3200 is ok speed, and you could likely manually OC it to 3600 by lowering timings if you wanted. Crucial Ballistix is really good for Ryzen and would likely run fine with 4 sticks, but the prices for it are really high. (Everybody wants to buy it because it OCs really well.) It's great an all but I don't know that it's worth $50 extra. e: Verviticus posted:but the number of times i look and see my current 16gb at 90+% use (that said, ram has been pretty cheap for a while now and 32gb isn't much more than I paid for 16 in 2017. it's a reasonable purchase.) Klyith fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Jun 16, 2020 |
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oh ok cool. yeah crucial seemed really hard to get a hold of up here (the two main stores near me dont even seem to stock it) but that stuff is actually available. i know people have said that 16 is usually enough but the number of times i look and see my current 16gb at 90+% use has made me want 32 if i could get my hands on it. thank you
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Checked the last couple pages and didn't see any PSU chat really: About a year ago, I remember that there were kinda/sorta "good" and "bad" lines of EVGA PSUs, and I was counseled to get a specific line from this thread. My buddy is replacing a PSU, so I wanted to check in and see what the recommended line from EVGA is again.
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Zarin posted:Checked the last couple pages and didn't see any PSU chat really: G with a number: excellent GA: ok but inferior to a Corsair RM(x) or seasonic Focus Gold GD: not great, but also not awful. Gold efficiency but poor components. Similar to the Corsair CX non-M as an ok budget purchase. B5 & BQ: not awful BR: awful also good luck finding stock, you probably want to look beyond EVGA because it's take whatever you can get right now. Klyith fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Jun 16, 2020 |
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I think I'm gonna make a move, just want some last minute opinions. - I'm in the USA - I'm going to use this for gaming, VR, hobbyist game/VR development, and software development - I don't really have a budget--living the DINK dream with no restaurant bills or vacations in the foreseeable future - for games, playing RDR2 at 1440p @ 100Hz would be splendid but honestly I'm fine with 1080p @ 60 or even 30, I don't have a nice monitor - the specific games would probably be RDR2, COD, and a bunch of really old poo poo that won't be very intensive - specific non-gaming software would be Unreal 4, Unity, various IDEs for programming in whatever language (i.e. RAM eaters with CPU-bound compilers). This is the system I'm thinking of getting: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($274.49 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 AORUS MASTER ATX AM4 Motherboard ($279.99 @ B&H) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($116.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ B&H) Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card ($524.98 @ Newegg) Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Best Buy) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Total: $1386.43 All of the above comes out to $1800 from Dell with their nifty Alienware branding, an extra 1TB HDD I have no use for, a free KB+M that I don't need, and some flunkies for me to call up and yell at if poo poo fails out of the box. My questions: 1. my decision to go pre-built or not relies heavily on how reliable the PC parts market is these days. The last time I built a PC was 18 years ago and it was a 3 month odyssey of DOA parts, flashing BIOSes, and defective piece of poo poo power supplies frying stuff. Obviously life is a little strange now, and most brick and mortar poo poo is still not open where I live, so this would be a severe pain in the rear end that I would gleefully pay a few hundred to mitigate. Has the parts market unfucked itself in my absence? Alternatively, are there hidden corners that Dell cuts with Alienware that I should know about? 2. Would the 2070S basically get me to at least PS4 Pro-level performance on games like COD MW or Red Dead Redemption 2 (1440p @ ~60/30 respectively)? The other stuff I want to play is all old and lovely and easy to run. I don't really see shelling out for a 2080Ti with the 30 series right around the corner, but I'm also considering getting a 2080S and just sticking with that until there's something I want to do that it can't.
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Stubear St. Pierre posted:I think I'm gonna make a move, just want some last minute opinions. I've built multiple PCs since 2002ish and I'd say it's way less fiddly than it used to be. The main problem before COVID messed everything up in the supply chain was choosing from the insane variety of good quality parts. The supply chain for parts is inane now but depending on who you believe it should get more or less unfucked this summer. Or the epidemic wipes us out and then who cares.  B550 prices are dumb as poo poo right now, paying $280 for a B550 when you get get excellent X570 boards for less makes no sense at all. If they drop to somewhere between B450 and X570 then they'd start to make sense. And a 2070 Super should give you clearly better performance than a PS4 Pro and, depending on what rumors you believe, just a bit under the alleged PS5 spec. sean10mm fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Jun 16, 2020 |
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Ashsaber posted:Well, Good News: After bumbling around for a couple hours I was able to complete my build, and holy poo poo it actually booted! It installed the OS with no issues (though I didn't go online to validate the key)! It boots in like >10 seconds compared to the 30 or so my old (current) one does. I suppose the HDD that isn't being recognized might not be partitioned, in which case this might help you (just skip the part about shrinking the C partition, since it's not relevant to you): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHjolzl7Gk
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