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What type of plants are you interested in growing?
This poll is closed.
Perennials! 142 20.91%
Annuals! 30 4.42%
Woody plants! 62 9.13%
Succulent plants! 171 25.18%
Tropical plants! 60 8.84%
Non-vascular plants are the best! 31 4.57%
Screw you, I'd rather eat them! 183 26.95%
Total: 679 votes
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Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...

Bi-la kaifa posted:

How do you all deal with slugs? They're eating all of my dahlias and it's loving embarrassing. I like the idea of beer traps but a lot of the culprits are very girthy banana slugs that I have a lot of admiration for. Does copper tape actually work?

Beer Trap

E: :nms: https://www.reddit.com/r/gardening/comments/cc8553/the_first_time_i_try_the_slug_beer_trap_im_in/

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tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe
I’d like to put some plants in this Kallax hole.



But my windows are all East facing so it’s a bit of a cave in this corner.

I have some of these grow lights and they seem to work pretty well for some peppers I’ve been trying to grow.



But I don’t think they’ll work in that space, unless there are some very creative lamps with that socket style.

What I’m wondering about is like, puck style grow lights. Do they exist? I can’t find anything on Amazon here but maybe there’s another term for these things.

tuyop fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Jun 14, 2020

surf rock
Aug 12, 2007

We need more women in STEM, and by that, I mean skateboarding, television, esports, and magic.
I got this little white ladder-shelf for my bedroom, and I want to keep some plants on it. Here it is:



In terms of plant care, here's my track record:

- A snake plant I bought for my living room; I think that this thing is entirely unkillable given that it's been going strong for ~4 years now
- A peace lily I was given for my living room; it's still alive after ~2 years but I've nearly killed it many times
- A ZZ plant I bought for my office desk; I've only had it for six months but I think it's unkillable like the snake plant

So, I'm definitely on the beginner's end of things.

Anyway, plants on this shelf will get a lot of indirect light through the blinds, but those are virtually never open so direct light will be limited to what comes in the gap between the blinds, I guess. Ideally I wouldn't have to water the plants more than weekly. Here's what I'm looking at so far:

- Peperomia Obtusifolia
- Marble Queen Pothos
- Pink Anthurium
- Calathea Rattlesnake
- Summer Palm

Downside of that group... it would be like $270 for five plants and some admittedly nice vases. I bit the bullet on Sill prices for the ZZ plant last year, but doing some Googling, it seems like I can pretty easily get all these for one-quarter the price or less from other places. So, that's the plan.

Are there other plants, ideally colorful ones, that would fit well with this group in terms of size, light requirements, and maintenance burden? Thank you for any tips!

Wallet
Jun 19, 2006

surf rock posted:

Downside of that group... it would be like $270 for five plants and some admittedly nice vases. I bit the bullet on Sill prices for the ZZ plant last year, but doing some Googling, it seems like I can pretty easily get all these for one-quarter the price or less from other places. So, that's the plan.

Holy gently caress is that a lot for those plants. I guess they must just be charging tons for the pots? Etsy is surprisingly decent if you know the specific plant you want and you can't get it locally.

You might want to check out some of the many varieties of Peperomia as there are quite a few with a lot more color on them. There are also a number of succulents that have the kind of care regimen I assume you're going for and don't need a ton of light like Dracaena (which it sounds like you've already had success with), Gasteria, some Sedums and Kalanchoes, Hoya, and a bunch of other stuff I'm forgetting. As far as succulents go I'll caution that even though you'll be able to find a number of varieties that look colorful and will do fine in those conditions, virtually all of them are going to lose their color pretty quickly with limited light like that.

coronatae
Oct 14, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
I am a Fool who ignored the blackberry vine the previous owners planted and now I am paying the price. I am going to end this vine.

uranium grass
Jan 15, 2005

I have agreed to acquire a project because it was on my wishlist and I can probably make my money back splitting it up. What can I do when I get this guy to loosen the roots? They look... established. I can't even tell how many sets of stems are in there.
I can't make the video work so here's a link: https://i.imgur.com/metINya.mp4

Oil of Paris
Feb 13, 2004

100% DIRTY

Nap Ghost

Wallet posted:

Holy gently caress is that a lot for those plants. I guess they must just be charging tons for the pots? Etsy is surprisingly decent if you know the specific plant you want and you can't get it locally.


this was my reaction too. I said "got drat" to myself when I saw those prices, and I buy from places like Plant Delights regularly lol. Houseplants seem like the new hotness for ripoff poo poo, especially since I've long considered most houseplants to be easily propagated

Wallet
Jun 19, 2006

Oil of Paris posted:

this was my reaction too. I said "got drat" to myself when I saw those prices, and I buy from places like Plant Delights regularly lol. Houseplants seem like the new hotness for ripoff poo poo, especially since I've long considered most houseplants to be easily propagated

Plant Delights is pricey but they've also always sent me very nicely rooted plants that fill out the pots they're sold in and most of the stuff they sell you can't get anywhere else. It just so happens that I placed an order with them about a week ago that was $275 shipped, but that was for 12 unusual beauties. Sixty something dollars for a pothos in a little pot is highway robbery.

Oil of Paris
Feb 13, 2004

100% DIRTY

Nap Ghost

Wallet posted:

Plant Delights is pricey but they've also always sent me very nicely rooted plants that fill out the pots they're sold in and most of the stuff they sell you can't get anywhere else. It just so happens that I placed an order with them about a week ago that was $275 shipped, but that was for 12 unusual beauties. Sixty something dollars for a pothos in a little pot is highway robbery.

Yeah I’ve always felt good about the Plant Delights prices. They’re high quality, healthy, and, while I always go pick up, I’ve heard ship super well. You get what you pay for, more or less, and a good chunk of the price goes into an endowment to turn their crazy rear end gardens into an extension of the NC State arboretum program that would be open to the public

Edit: they are infamously expensive enough the joke among some gardeners is that you’re paying “the tony tax” since very often he’s the only one who has the plant and he knows it lol

Oil of Paris fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Jun 15, 2020

Wallet
Jun 19, 2006

Oil of Paris posted:

Yeah I’ve always felt good about the Plant Delights prices. They’re high quality, healthy, and, while I always go pick up, I’ve heard ship super wells. You get what you pay for, more or less, and a good chunk of the price goes into an endowment to turn their crazy rear end gardens into an extension of the NC State arboretum program that would be open to the public

Wish I could pick up in person—they've got so much cool poo poo I can't grow here (zone 6)—but I can confirm that they ship very nicely. You can find places that sell plants cheaper, obviously, but most of the really cheap places ship bare root which I find is extremely stressful for a lot of plants so I'd rather pay for the soil to come with them.

Are there any other online nurseries you'd recommend in particular? I try to get what I can locally but there's some stuff that just isn't available.


This is the first year I've had my own substantial outdoor garden space which I've been filling in, so I've purchased plants from a few different places that came recommended to see how they did:

Bluestone Perennials sent me some 3.5 inchers that could have easily fit in tubes (and they weren't cheap). Definitely wouldn't buy from them again.

White Flower Farm is (relatively) local but everything they sent me has been in good condition and well rooted (sometimes over rooted though I think that's particular to the massive spike in orders they got this season). I'm not sure if they are producing them or they are sourcing them somewhere, but I got a couple of their Sedum tiles which are the best curated mix I've seen and they've done extremely well for me.

I've been looking at placing an order with Forest Farm as well but I haven't pulled the trigger yet.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


They just do roses, but I’ve had good luck with both the Antique Rose Emporium and David Austen Roses as far as shipping. David Austen ships bare root but in plastic bags with root gel and everything has done great.

uranium grass
Jan 15, 2005

She's um. Wow. Larger than I anticipated. I honestly love her and would love to keep her whole but as you can see she is taking up most of my tiny dining plant room.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Is that a philodendron? They are pretty indestructible in my experience (except a frost, of course)

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




They are very resilient.

A giant tree fell on my philodendron and split it in half. I was able to pull a stump out and stick it in a pot, and now it's a whole plant. The rest of it was stuck under the tree all winter, but I dug it out in the spring and it was still alive.

uranium grass
Jan 15, 2005

Fitzy Fitz posted:

They are very resilient.

A giant tree fell on my philodendron and split it in half. I was able to pull a stump out and stick it in a pot, and now it's a whole plant. The rest of it was stuck under the tree all winter, but I dug it out in the spring and it was still alive.

Plants are amazing. :kimchi:

And yeah, this will be indoor-only as I'm way up north. Good to hear it'll take a bit of hacking at, thanks!

Oil of Paris
Feb 13, 2004

100% DIRTY

Nap Ghost

Wallet posted:

Bluestone Perennials sent me some 3.5 inchers that could have easily fit in tubes (and they weren't cheap). Definitely wouldn't buy from them again.

White Flower Farm is (relatively) local but everything they sent me has been in good condition and well rooted (sometimes over rooted though I think that's particular to the massive spike in orders they got this season). I'm not sure if they are producing them or they are sourcing them somewhere, but I got a couple of their Sedum tiles which are the best curated mix I've seen and they've done extremely well for me.

I've been looking at placing an order with Forest Farm as well but I haven't pulled the trigger yet.

Thanks for the heads up on Bluestone Perennials, haven't bought anything from them but they were on my list of potential places.

First recommendation would be Nurseries Caroliniana, https://nurcar.com/. Very much in the same weird-poo poo-sold-by-no-one-else vein as Delights. Also the guys descriptions and stories around each plant are pretty funny/interesting. He seems deeply weird lol. My buddy got some plants from them and said they were shipped very well and have been very healthy.

https://www.farreachesfarm.com/ is West Coast, so I haven't ordered from them but they're mentioned in lots of plant nerd videos as an introductory source of new and interesting plants

https://odysseybulbs.com/ baller bulb shop that seems kind of expensive but not compared to some other bulb sites I've seen ( on that note, WTF is up with snowdrops, how in the gently caress is a single bulb $125, look at this poo poo: http://edgewoodgardens.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Edgewood_Gardens_Dormant_Species_Galanthus_First_List_06_16_19.pdf)

And last is a very cool source for new and unique hellebores, also very reasonably priced considering how expensive hellebores can be elsewhere: http://www.pineknotfarms.com/

I have plenty more that I know about if you're looking for something specific but those came to mind as interesting nurseries with good recs from plant people that I respect

Edit: If Bluestone is local-ish to you, here's one that's also in CT that also does unusual plants: https://www.brokenarrownursery.com/ they seem about old school and tech-averse as you can get but have a nice selection

Oil of Paris fucked around with this message at 11:34 on Jun 16, 2020

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost
Ugh, something keep eating the first leaves on my sunflower seedlings and I have no idea what it could be. I put up bird netting (and bird feeders elsewhere), and its still happening. I haven’t seen any evidence of rabbit activity so I guess it’s snails and slugs, overnight? Any other critters to consider?

Ugh, this is pissing me off so much, last year I could just plant them and they just grew and it was awesome but now I keep having to replant used seeds from last year and it’s really pissing me off.

Edit: I realized that I can put my germination domes right over the seedlings and I think if I just make sure that they fit flush with the ground that I should be good.

Let me know if there’s any reason that this is dumb.

Solkanar512 fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Jun 16, 2020

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




Solkanar512 posted:

Ugh, something keep eating the first leaves on my sunflower seedlings and I have no idea what it could be. I put up bird netting (and bird feeders elsewhere), and its still happening. I haven’t seen any evidence of rabbit activity so I guess it’s snails and slugs, overnight? Any other critters to consider?

Ugh, this is pissing me off so much, last year I could just plant them and they just grew and it was awesome but now I keep having to replant used seeds from last year and it’s really pissing me off.

Edit: I realized that I can put my germination domes right over the seedlings and I think if I just make sure that they fit flush with the ground that I should be good.

Let me know if there’s any reason that this is dumb.

This happened to nearly all of my sunflower seedlings. I planted dozens and now just have a few. It's probably slugs. I put out beer traps for a while and now my seedlings are doing fine.

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

Fitzy Fitz posted:

This happened to nearly all of my sunflower seedlings. I planted dozens and now just have a few. It's probably slugs. I put out beer traps for a while and now my seedlings are doing fine.

Thanks for the confirmation, at least I’m not going crazy.

Wallet
Jun 19, 2006

Oil of Paris posted:

I have plenty more that I know about if you're looking for something specific but those came to mind as interesting nurseries with good recs from plant people that I respect

Thanks for this. I'm not after anything super specific (unless you know someone who specializes in weird yuccas), just poking around and slowly planting my new gardens with interesting plants that can survive winter here (hopefully)—probably going to get myself in trouble just with the ones you already posted.

Wallet fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Jun 17, 2020

uranium grass
Jan 15, 2005

Wallet posted:

Thanks for this. I'm not after anything super specific (unless you know someone who specializes in weird yuccas), just poking around and slowly planting my new gardens with interesting plants that can survive winter here (hopefully)—probably going to get myself in trouble just with the ones you already posted.

I would love to hear more about weird yuccas, I don't think I've ever seen anyone growing any but the regular stick kind here!

Oil of Paris
Feb 13, 2004

100% DIRTY

Nap Ghost

Wallet posted:

Thanks for this. I'm not after anything super specific (unless you know someone who specializes in weird yuccas), just poking around and slowly planting my new gardens with interesting plants that can survive winter here (hopefully)—probably going to get myself in trouble just with the ones you already posted.

subpar anachronism posted:

I would love to hear more about weird yuccas, I don't think I've ever seen anyone growing any but the regular stick kind here!

drat, you lads sent me on a quest to find this info! especially since Delights didnt have a killer yucca selection, I figured there had to be a serious specialist out there

well I was kind of right. it turns out that theres a gaping hole in the online market for yucca; one of the real big players, a famous operation called Yucca-do went out of business a couple years back. It merged its nursery/gardens into a conservancy, Peckerwood Garden, which itself has just been renamed since March to John Fairey Garden. Looks like they still have a small scale nursery on site but doesnt look like it ships, so it might be worth finding an email or something for them to see who they would recommend. im honestly not sure that anyone has since picked up the yucca sword but theyd know if anybody did

i only found one nursery that had a decent list and of course a lot is currently sold out: https://www.highcountrygardens.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=yucca

these guys also had a few at what seem like very competitive prices: https://www.diggingdog.com/search/catalog?searchstring=yucca

im not super into yucca but this was a fun hunt, surprisingly difficult to find anything that wasnt a local retail outfit

Wallet
Jun 19, 2006

Oil of Paris posted:

im not super into yucca but this was a fun hunt, surprisingly difficult to find anything that wasnt a local retail outfit

High Country has the largest variety of Yuccas I have seen anyone listing so you've done better than I did—Forest Farm who I mentioned earlier has a few varieties I hadn't seen elsewhere so I did end up placing an order with them. They have an interesting selection so I'll definitely report back on how they do when the plants come in.

The only variety I ever see stocked in nurseries around here is filamentosa 'Color Guard' which is pretty but I already have one (it's about to flower, actually).

Wallet fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Jun 17, 2020

Wallet
Jun 19, 2006

Double posting (for shame) but since this thread is better with pictures, here's an :effort: post about my project so far this season since people seem interested in that kind of thing.

I purchased a condex during the fall which has a fairly large shared yard as well as a side yard that's mine. When the plants started coming up the plant situation in the side yard was a bit grim.



The previous owner really liked haphazardly planted unnaturally pruned bushes.



The poor little pine tree in the corner was getting annihilated by the central air unit so I moved him elsewhere.



He's recovering very nicely and actually hosted some baby birds about a month ago.



On the other side of a paved path (to the left of the first picture) was this bizarre arrangement of day lilies and ivy. This is immediately after I removed an old willow stump that someone had hacked down to the ground and then left there. It was putting up new suckers which I transplanted elsewhere.

The rest of the side yard was grass with a tree planted smack dab in the middle of it that would, given the opportunity, eventually turn the entire yard into full shade. I don't have a before picture because it was just lawn.



I moved the tree and put in some new beds. The garden with the bushes from the first picture is against the house below the window I took this picture out of and connects with the new ones in the corner. That's a dogwood I planted in the corner and a few new plants that are scattered in there.



I've started working on the corner garden after getting all of the day lilies and ivy out but clearly there's still some work to do. I should probably space out the shrubs in the corner more before they get too big (hard to see but it's a Physocarpus and a Diervilla).

Most of the work so far has gone into replanting the original bed with the hibiscus that was trying to root into the foundation (at least, I think it's a hibiscus—it's doing well after being moved early in the season but it hasn't flowered just yet). The nondescript bushes were banished to the far corners of the shared yard.



Excuse the perlite. That's the color guard I was talking about being close to flowering.



Of course since I was taking the pictures this morning the only thing actually flowering was these random sedums.



It's got a lot of growing in to do.



I'm kind of in love with this little Euphorbia myrsinites I got from Plant Delights.



And that's about as far as I've gotten.

Wallet fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Jun 17, 2020

uranium grass
Jan 15, 2005

It turns out I do not have nearly enough pots for the philodendron so it's currently in pieces in my kitchen. It's the brazilian kind, so shorter and bushier, and there wasn't really a good place to separate notes. I preserved all the roots I could and if I couldn't I left them with a big chunk of rhizome(?) that hopefully some roots can still shoot off from.

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost
So update on the sunflower seedlings. Under most of the germination domes a ton have popped up overnight and things look great. We had a bunch of rain over the past few days but it will be in the 70s through the weekend. I’m feeling really dumb for not having tried this back in April around last frost as by that point the rest of my trays didn’t need them and I could have gotten another head start.

However, under one or two I still found that everything was eaten. I made sure that the edges were flush (and even into) the ground, but some had slight raised edges. No slug or snail tracks and I removed all that I could find.

So there one other option I want to discuss - ants. Under one tray where everything was gone was what appeared to be an ant hole. There is an ant colony in this raised bed area, and some research says that they don’t like anything that smells strongly - sunflowers are allopathic. The other tray that had everything eaten wasn’t sealed down as well as it could have been.

Am looking for zebras here when I need to be thinking about horses instead? Or should I still be thinking about slugs and snails?

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




I think a well hidden slug is more likely than ants.

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

I saw some kind of bee-like insect making a tunnel in the soil in one of my pots this afternoon. Can something like that hurt the plant? It's a small pot, maybe 9" ish and it has a morning glory vine in it right now.

Here's some bee pics





I guess the other problem is if it lays eggs it won't be a super good place for it, I'd have to keep it on my 3rd floor balcony over the winter and it might get cold (chicago-land). That and I might give it a good drenching when I water it!

anatomi
Jan 31, 2015

Looks like a wasp to me. Their larvae are usually parasitic, feeding on an insect host that the mama wasp has infested and buried. Won't bother your plants.

Edit: sorry, I missed that you're around Chicago. Could possibly be a cicada killer wasp, they rest in burrows.

anatomi fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Jun 18, 2020

Oil of Paris
Feb 13, 2004

100% DIRTY

Nap Ghost

Wallet posted:


And that's about as far as I've gotten.

Wooooow thats going to look extremely nice once all of those start to fill in. That little contorted thing to the right of the water meter is dope

anatomi
Jan 31, 2015

Unexpectedly, it seems that all of the martagon lilies I planted have grown nice and fat buds. The first bloom unveiled itself today:

I think it's an Orange Marmalade, which is actually a hybrid between martagon and hansonii. I'm very happy at this moment.

Wallet
Jun 19, 2006

Oil of Paris posted:

Wooooow thats going to look extremely nice once all of those start to fill in.

I hope so! Only time will tell.

Oil of Paris posted:

That little contorted thing to the right of the water meter is dope.

I saw that while I was checking out with some bags of soil from Home Depot and thought it was an interesting little plant for $10. They're pretty common, apparently, but I hadn't seen it before—it's corkscrew rush (Juncus effusus 'Spiralis').

Wallet fucked around with this message at 13:29 on Jun 18, 2020

Hirayuki
Mar 28, 2010


The last and smallest of my voodoo lilies finally started to sprout yesterday. Today it looks like it brought a friend!



Regular sprout on the right, "fleshier" pal on the left. Could this be a flower? :dance: I'm almost certain there's more than one tuber in this pot, but I would never have planted them so close together.

edit: Went outside to deadhead and discovered my creeping Jenny is in bloom! I've never seen that before. Granted, these are last year's plants that have overwintered.



A pretty addition to my dark pink petunias and calibrachoa.

Hirayuki fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Jun 19, 2020

uranium grass
Jan 15, 2005

What is this? A friend bought it and it was advertised as Pearls and Jade but all I get for that is pothos. All of my apps are proving useless, as well as searching by leaf characteristics.

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Hirayuki
Mar 28, 2010


subpar anachronism posted:

What is this? A friend bought it and it was advertised as Pearls and Jade but all I get for that is pothos. All of my apps are proving useless, as well as searching by leaf characteristics.


Jewels of Opar? That and weeping fig came up in my app; the name is promising.

B33rChiller
Aug 18, 2011




Hirayuki posted:

A pretty addition to my dark pink petunias and calibrachoa.
Let's see those 'tunias! Here's mine
Beds and pots




The hanging baskets




I planted a mixed variety, a couple different double blossom varieties, and one called purple wave, which has a trailing habit. Last year was my first year growing flowers from seed, and I was really happy with the petunias, so I expanded my selection this year.
Trying out cosmos for the first time this year. My little girl picked them out, and I recognised the name from animal crossing, so thought what the hell? I'll cobble together a flowerbed she can have to herself. Then she can pick all the flowers she likes without destroying the tomatoes and cukes. They're coming along nicely.

pidan
Nov 6, 2012


Do we have a thread specifically for houseplants / potted plants? I need some really basic beginner advice.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

You're in the right place.

anatomi
Jan 31, 2015

B33rChiller posted:

Pretty flowers
They all look so wonderful, especially the Purple Wave.

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pidan
Nov 6, 2012


Thank you! I have some experience growing things like radishes and begonias on my balcony, which is easy enough, but I've never had much luck with indoor plants.

Our apartment is relatively dark, because it's below a hill and doesn't have many windows. We also have a cat. So I researched a bit about plants that can stand dark rooms and aren't harmful to the cat, and this is what I came up with:



From left to right, that's a Sansevieria (snake plant?), a Calathea (prayer plant?) and a Chlorophytum (spider plant?). Note the cat enthusiastically eating the chlorophytum.

Now, the front two are supposedly easy to care for. The snake plant allegedly likes small pots, so I'll just try to get a decorative over-pot and otherwise let it mind its own business. I'll try to put the spider plant in some sort of hanging arrangement where the cat can't get at it (she has dedicated catgrass to gnaw on).

The Calathea is apparently a bit more difficult, though I'm not sure if that means it'll die, or just that it won't flower. I don't need flowers, but I want the plant to thrive.
All the houseplant beginner tutorials seem to focus on how much light and water a plant needs, but the basic "how do I place this plant" questions remain a mystery. So here they are:

- Should I move the plant from the nursery pot into some other (larger? different?) pot? Or do I just put an overpot over it and do a root check next spring?
- How do I choose an overpot? The cat likes to tip the plants over, would a heavy pot prevent that?
- If a (ceramic) pot has a hole in the bottom, does that mean I put the soil directly in the pot, or do I still need a plastic inside pot? If it doesn't have a hole, does it serve as a saucer? I want to avoid getting water on the wood floor.
- Should I water them with a thin stream of water? I have a watering can for outside that spreads the water out a bit, but it's hard to hit the small pots and nothing else.
- Does the plant need to stand in the same place all the time, or can I move it around?

pidan fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Jun 21, 2020

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