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CaptainSarcastic posted:I haven't been in a rush to do so because: Years ago when I was a cop I saw a dude in an apartment try to kill himself by locking himself in a little bathroom with a charcoal grill and try to carbon monoxide himself. He passed out, but survived more or less okay. Because most of the gas made its way into the unit below where it killed a kid. I’ve had a CO detector ever since, even though all the poo poo in my building is electric too.
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Helios Grime posted:All this smoke detector talk has me wondering if my apartment even has one. Also I don't think I ever noticed one in other peoples places. Houses in Switzerland are built with 60cm concrete walls and ceramic tile roofs, aren't they? Flammability of the building envelope is not the concern there that it is in the US, where houses are built from flammable materials.
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Yeah, here in the states we use the traditional local materials: tinder-dry wood and thatch waterproofed with tar
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CaptainSarcastic posted:The alarm is mounted at like 6' off the ground near the bedrooms, so if somehow there actually was carbon monoxide in the house we'd probably be unconscious or dead by the time the thing went off. CO has a molar mass of 28 while air is 28.8. It's a slight difference, so given no real temperature gradient it will diffuse fairly evenly with the air so around 5' or lower would do for placement when the CO is the same as ambient temperature. HOWEVER, almost all cases of CO poisoning are from faulty furnaces/heating units or fire, so diffusion will follow the heat. A combo unit placed on the ceiling is fine and will warn you before you pass into the danger zone.
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Superterranean posted:Houses in Switzerland are built with 60cm concrete walls and ceramic tile roofs, aren't they? Yeah new houses are built quite well. But there are a lot of old buildings that might have brick/concrete walls but all the floors are more or less just wood.
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I am of the opinion that while fire alarms might not be warranted by the building materials, it is almost always warranted by the things inside the building. Unless clothing, food, furniture, and other things inside the building are all fireproof.
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HardDiskD posted:Didn't some kid amass enough of those to create a backyard nuclear reactor? An idiot in the Ars forums also turned his parents house into a radioactive waste superfund site https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=155929
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drgitlin posted:An idiot in the Ars forums also turned his parents house into a radioactive waste superfund site https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=155929 quote:I CANNOT believe some arsian is uptight enough to RAT on someone here...That is pretty low, even for some of the characters on here. This place is getting further and further away from what it was... LOL e: quote:I am no David Hahn and am not as stupid, but I HAVE built a functioning breeder Aluminum+Lead sheild, but some radiation is escaping. I am going to beef it up. O.K., I’m going to need to know this Arsian’s current whereabouts: quote:This is why I am a biologist, I don't have to worry about radiation (much). I can however order up the DNA bits commercially to create the full ebola genome (its only about 18000 bp I believe) and then combine it and breed it in a monkey (Ok, I actually can't because it needs working viral proteins to self transcribe inside the cell). Platystemon fucked around with this message at 11:09 on Jun 16, 2020 |
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Platystemon posted:O.K., I’m going to need to know this Arsian’s current whereabouts: It's the "gogo science!!!!" replies that are most upsetting.
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My old place, I had a smoke alarm that would go off when I took a shower. I just removed the battery.
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Helios Grime posted:Edit: Ok, I just read up on it and we do not need to install smokealarms in houses. As far as the goverment is concerened having high building standards that take into account to be more fire resistant is enough. Also we have around 3 people dying in housfires per year, so I don't know if that is high or low for a country of ~8.5 million people. I was curious what that figure was in the UK and ended up in an Excel based rabbit hole which I stopped going down when I found a group of 71 people from 2017. https://data.gov.uk/dataset/f7ccba2d-f679-46e1-8d6d-de7bee690d40/fire-statistics-fatalities-and-casualties
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drgitlin posted:An idiot in the Ars forums also turned his parents house into a radioactive waste superfund site https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=155929 lmao holy poo poo. all the loving morons defending this guys right to generate 50+ roentgens of radiation from his garage.
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the american right to turn ones home into a nuclear emitter.
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Platystemon posted:LOL The last thing I remember about him was this thread where he said he was suffering from testicular and skin cancers: https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1118045&start=40
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Trimson Grondag 3 posted:It's the "gogo science!!!!" replies that are most upsetting. 
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drgitlin posted:The last thing I remember about him was this thread where he said he was suffering from testicular and skin cancers: https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1118045&start=40 lung cancer also. did his house ever get cleaned up? i don't really give a poo poo aboujt this dumbass but it does kinda piss me off if hes still irradiating ppl beyond the grave. edit: obviously hes fuckin dead by now. 3 different cancers and two of them are nasty lethal kinds.
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drgitlin posted:An idiot in the Ars forums also turned his parents house into a radioactive waste superfund site https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=155929 quote:
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drgitlin posted:The last thing I remember about him was this thread where he said he was suffering from testicular and skin cancers: https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1118045&start=40 A bit of digging, he's still alive and enjoys his tesla coils, books on nuclear engineering and confederate flags. e: and cars.
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It bugs me that he was using a unit of measurement that was already outdated by the time Chernobyl occured If I remember correctly 60 roentgen is enough to very significantly increase the chance of cancer, but probably not quite enough to cause radiation sickness. Looking up conversion tables is a pain in the rear end though.
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"Wear your gloves kids" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppjK4VIORdc Humphreys fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Jun 16, 2020 |
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Helios Grime posted:All this smoke detector talk has me wondering if my apartment even has one. Also I don't think I ever noticed one in other peoples places. Fairly safe but nonzero. https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/fires/by-country/
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Phenomenal aesthetic.
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Bertha the Toaster posted:I was curious what that figure was in the UK and ended up in an Excel based rabbit hole which I stopped going down when I found a group of 71 people from 2017. Has anyone replaced that same cladding on other buildings? Over in NZ the Grenfell-style cladding was replaced at a cost of $25 million on the SkyCity Convention Centre which later went on to catch fire when the roof was being installed.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:I bought a kitchen rated smoke alarm a couple of years ago. They're more expensive, but it means no more false alarms. If you already have an existing smoke alarm you can just replace it with lithium 9V batteries and throw out the whole thing the the battery is dead due to sensor aging.
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I was woken up by my carbon monoxide alarm in the middle of the night a couple of years ago. In my half-asleep state I went right over to peer at it in confusion before realising I should probably not be in the room with the boiler. Promptly got dressed and outside, emergency engineer showed up fairly quickly and determined that there was no leak and the alarm was faulty. During the inspection of the boiler though they did discover that, whilst it wasn't leaking, there was something else dangerously wrong with it and it needed to be immediately shut down and replaced (the replacement part wasn't so immediate). So my lovely alarm saved me from my lovely boiler anyway, a good result for lovely apartments all round.
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Xaintrailles posted:Phenomenal aesthetic. 1960s Black Light Design Aesthetic
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I visited my parents and found a smoke alarm in the freezer. I was purplexed as frozen food rarely bursts into fire and I was concerned that they may have been going down the route where you think your cat is talking to you. Turned out that they had a smoke alarm with one of those '5 year' batteries. After that time, the battery is low so it starts the warning chirp, every 60 seconds, non-stop throughout the night. You can't replace the battery as you are supposed to replace the whole unit. And as you don't need access to the battery, why not make the unit sealed for protection? There was literally no way to stop this drat thing beeping: not even screws to get the case open. My father put it in the freezer, hoping it would finally kill off the battery and stop the drat thing from beeping for the next 4 weeks.
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My cat talks to me all the time, she says "meow"
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Moo the cow posted:I visited my parents and found a smoke alarm in the freezer. How did the maker intend the user to respond to this? Throw it out and let their garbage can beep on the curb for days until the truck picks it up and crushes it?
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I had one that'd go off when it was above 90 degrees Fahrenheit or so. Not having ac in my apartment I'd throw it in the fridge until the heat wave was over.
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This pacifist generally prefers a very Zen approach to life but if that detector woke me in the middle of the night with no way to turn it off there would be murder. I'd probably drown it in the sink or smash it to bits and write a strongly worded letter in the morning. Also, all cat owners know cats have a pretty good vocabulary, plus body language.
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haveblue posted:How did the maker intend the user to respond to this? Throw it out and let their garbage can beep on the curb for days until the truck picks it up and crushes it? Must have been. You know when you have a problem and you sit there thinking 'I must be really stupid and missing something blindingly obvious, because this is as dumb as gently caress'? That was me. I even resorted to the standard method of trouble-shooting and gave it a few light taps with a hammer and screwdriver and failed as the case was welded shut. (I couldn't hit it with a really big hammer because of the radioactive sensor inside)
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When my previous landlord replaced the smoke detectors in our place, they were the 10 year lithium battery kind that were turned on by being twisted onto the mounting. Once they did get a low battery, there was a one-way switch in the back that would permanently and safely discharge the remainder of the battery so you could dispose of it without it beeping for days in the trashcan. Clearly this discussion has taught us that capitalism has invented a gently caress lot of different smoke detectors, most of them suck, and many landlords loving suck because 'merica. 
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Humphreys posted:"Wear your gloves kids" "If you're on fire, kids, deal with that first before you go get the camera."
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MatteusTheCorrupt posted:I am of the opinion that while fire alarms might not be warranted by the building materials, it is almost always warranted by the things inside the building. Unless clothing, food, furniture, and other things inside the building are all fireproof. The joke is on you, my couch, bed and curtains are made of asbestos!
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Cyrano4747 posted:Cross post from the TFR deals thread :
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Mine got canceled as well.
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Olewithmilk posted:You mean microroentgen... right? Or milliroentgen? Surely not full on roentgen? LMAO, the guy was trying to vaporize Uranium? What the gently caress is wrong with him?
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