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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Not to mention China is considerably weaker than the Soviets were relative to the West

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I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
I imagine the Chinese nuclear deterrent is chabuduo as gently caress.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

I imagine the Chinese nuclear deterrent is chabuduo as gently caress.

fire a nuclear missile at the nuclear missiles

Vesi
Jan 12, 2005

pikachu looking at?
it's ok Chinese are very resilient, any nuclear missile destroying a city would just end up with like 8 dead and 200 injured

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Wasn't there an anecdote about an officer exchange that ended up with 'No, you won't end up with 500 million dead and 500 million happily bouncing along in a nuclear exchange. Everyone in this radius is dead.'?

BrassRoots
Jan 9, 2012

You can play a shoestring if you're sincere - John Coltrane

Blistex posted:

Being a Chinese national is going to be a massive red flag (lol) to be allowed into various levels of research and development in the west now that it's been shown on multiple . . . . oh wait! China and Chinese universities pay money.

To be fair, if it wasn't for Chinese students my research program would look uninhabited. I also met some really nice people who came from hard working families with no ties to government. One guy in his thirties even had several brothers around the same age. In Beijing. Then there were the kids who's parents were oil barons. loving bums and annoying as gently caress.

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

BrassRoots posted:

To be fair, if it wasn't for Chinese students my research program would look uninhabited. I also met some really nice people who came from hard working families with no ties to government. One guy in his thirties even had several brothers around the same age. In Beijing. Then there were the kids who's parents were oil barons. loving bums and annoying as gently caress.

I mean this is like 99% of Chinese people.

Also Beijing had 27 in a day cases and has restarted lockdown efforts.

https://apnews.com/772a8215aef0d656bab9efe29fe90990

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

BrassRoots posted:

Then there were the kids who's parents were oil barons. loving bums and annoying as gently caress.

like Saudi annoying

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Scuffle on the India/China border, apparently no bullets fired but they beat each other to death with clubs and rocks. Which is... odd?

https://twitter.com/i/events/1272797478157299712

Also, it's that time of year when ersatz-china does what it does:

https://twitter.com/i/events/1272802789098262529

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.

WarpedNaba posted:

Scuffle on the India/China border, apparently no bullets fired but they beat each other to death with clubs and rocks. Which is... odd?

https://twitter.com/i/events/1272797478157299712


“I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Truly ahead of their time.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
https://twitter.com/ShivAroor/status/1272796473839755264?s=20

WarpedNaba posted:

Truly ahead of their time.

nope

exactly on time

this year is so loving stupid

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle

WarpedNaba posted:

Scuffle on the India/China border, apparently no bullets fired but they beat each other to death with clubs and rocks. Which is... odd?

https://twitter.com/i/events/1272797478157299712

Also, it's that time of year when ersatz-china does what it does:

https://twitter.com/i/events/1272802789098262529

As I understand it neither side lets the border guards have guns, so they don't start a war.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

yaffle posted:

As I understand it neither side lets the border guards have guns, so they don't start a war.

time to dust off all the jokes about Afghans acquiring "The Boulder" from 2001

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

Alan Smithee posted:

time to dust off all the jokes about Afghans acquiring "The Boulder" from 2001
the movie or the invasion

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Honestly the end of the world sounds pretty good right now.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


I did a tarot card reading for Kim Jung Un and the results were "oppression and horrible unbalance until the day north korea is destroyed"

No surprise :/

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
what a gEmInI thing to do

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

peanut posted:

I did a tarot card reading for Kim Jung Un and the results were "oppression and horrible unbalance until the day north korea is destroyed"

No surprise :/

Which card symbolizes north Korea?

Teketeketeketeke
Mar 11, 2007


Surely the Hermit?

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Every guide gives a different interpretation but my guide says…

Center, the Question, Knight of Wands
absence, pride, haste

Left, the Past, 4 of Wands (reversed)
Comfort, gain, family

Right, the Future, 10 of Wands
oppression, burden, conquer

Bottom, the Reason, Wheel of Fortune (reversed)
over abundance, cycle of fate

Top, Possibilities, 6 of Wands (reversed)
Enemy at the gates, ruin

In summary, it's going to get worse before it ends even more terribly

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

WarpedNaba posted:

Scuffle on the India/China border, apparently no bullets fired but they beat each other to death with clubs and rocks. Which is... odd?

https://twitter.com/i/events/1272797478157299712

I'm guessing the fight involved three Indian and at the least 15 PLA soldiers. Any ratio less favourable to the PLA and the soldiers wouldn't have progressed beyond calling the Indian's moms whores.

grellgraxer
Nov 28, 2002

"I didn't fight a secret war in Nicaragua so you can walk these streets of freedom bad mouthing lady America, in your damn mirrored su
Two Indian soldiers, one officer reported KIA.

Now saying 20 KIA:

https://twitter.com/rahulkanwal/status/1272923251434389504

grellgraxer fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Jun 16, 2020

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Begun the Stone Wars have.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Bloody hell though 20 casualties on the Indian side, savage af. I am going to assume China is the instigator. Maybe someone huffing too much nationalism.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

oohhboy posted:

Bloody hell though 20 casualties on the Indian side, savage af. I am going to assume China is the instigator. Maybe someone huffing too much nationalism.

I'm still banking on "the PLA troops found themselves in a very favourable position with a minimum 5:1 numerical advantage" scenario. My guess is that there were a column of Indian troops in a position below the Chinese ones, and the PLA troops just started throwing and dropping rocks on them.

CBC news is reporting...

quote:

The army said in a statement late Tuesday that the two sides "have disengaged" from the disputed Galwan area, where they clashed overnight on Monday.

The army originally reported that three Indian soldiers had died, but later said 17 additional soldiers succumbed to injuries they suffered in the sub-zero temperatures of the high-altitude terrain.

Guessing that three outright died from rocks, and the Indians didn't have the proper means to evacuate the remaining injured. The problem with this situation is that the PLA soldiers are going to see that the CCP is bringing a shitload of men, equipment, and $$$ to the disputed area, and they're going to assume that the Indians are not only unable to reply, but unwilling to reply with proportionate force (if news reaches them that 17 Indian soldiers froze to death on the mountain, even more so). All the Han Chinese guys that I knew in China (who actually verbalize their opinions on the matter of Indians) were of the opinion that they were quite literally sub-human, stupid, dirty, smelly, poor, incompetent, and cowardly, and that every facet of their society and government was exactly the same. That kind of teaching (plus the $$$ the PLA is making visible on that mountain compared to the Indians) really emboldens stupid behaviour. The fact that India isn't going to make a point of killing 20 Chinese soldiers will further cement this in the PLA soldier's minds. To the PLA soldiers on that mountain and reading the news, It's not that India is a rational actor who doesn't want to start WWIII over 20 dead, it's that India is Stupid, Poor, Incompetent, and most of all afraid of China.

If Xi doesn't dial things back and get his troops to stop going off script*, I don't want to know what kind of Clancy poo poo might unfold.

*hopefully it's something akin to the Korean Axe Murders, and was a spur of the moment thing and not something actually ordered from up top.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Blistex posted:

I'm still banking on "the PLA troops found themselves in a very favourable position with a minimum 5:1 numerical advantage" scenario. My guess is that there were a column of Indian troops in a position below the Chinese ones, and the PLA troops just started throwing and dropping rocks on them.

extreme san goku shi energy

Fumble
Sep 4, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 29 days!)

Blistex posted:

I'm still banking on "the PLA troops found themselves in a very favourable position with a minimum 5:1 numerical advantage" scenario. My guess is that there were a column of Indian troops in a position below the Chinese ones, and the PLA troops just started throwing and dropping rocks on them.

CBC news is reporting...


Guessing that three outright died from rocks, and the Indians didn't have the proper means to evacuate the remaining injured. The problem with this situation is that the PLA soldiers are going to see that the CCP is bringing a shitload of men, equipment, and $$$ to the disputed area, and they're going to assume that the Indians are not only unable to reply, but unwilling to reply with proportionate force (if news reaches them that 17 Indian soldiers froze to death on the mountain, even more so). All the Han Chinese guys that I knew in China (who actually verbalize their opinions on the matter of Indians) were of the opinion that they were quite literally sub-human, stupid, dirty, smelly, poor, incompetent, and cowardly, and that every facet of their society and government was exactly the same. That kind of teaching (plus the $$$ the PLA is making visible on that mountain compared to the Indians) really emboldens stupid behaviour. The fact that India isn't going to make a point of killing 20 Chinese soldiers will further cement this in the PLA soldier's minds. To the PLA soldiers on that mountain and reading the news, It's not that India is a rational actor who doesn't want to start WWIII over 20 dead, it's that India is Stupid, Poor, Incompetent, and most of all afraid of China.

If Xi doesn't dial things back and get his troops to stop going off script*, I don't want to know what kind of Clancy poo poo might unfold.

*hopefully it's something akin to the Korean Axe Murders, and was a spur of the moment thing and not something actually ordered from up top.

India have been itching to nuke something.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Fumble posted:

India have been itching to nuke something.

Didn't they address that in a patch?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
The PRC has a pattern of mistaking passivity for weakness and they will keep pushing until they receive a proportionate response, at which point they will loudly complain about how unfair the response is before giving up declaring themselves the winner and going home

See: Japan, Vietnam, South Korea, even Taiwan

Surprised India hasn't realized this

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
<sends India Sean Connery's speech from "The Untouchables">
<India is confused as the film has nothing to do with caste systems>

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Blistex posted:

Didn't they address that in a patch?

:lol:

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Good thing India isn't being run by a fascist nationalist psycho who is probably itching for an external threat to keep the public busy while he pogroms Muslims.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Grand Fromage posted:

Good thing India isn't being run by a fascist nationalist psycho who is probably itching for an external threat to keep the public busy while he pogroms Muslims.

:thunk:

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
No such thing as a free lunch.

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

Grand Fromage posted:

Good thing India isn't being run by a fascist nationalist psycho who is probably itching for an external threat to keep the public busy while he pogroms Muslims.

Are we talking about India or China? :confused:

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I can also back up the opinion of Indians that Blistex experienced. When mainlanders would tell me what countries/peoples they hated, the list was almost always this one and in this order:

Koreans
Hong Kongers
Vietnamese
Indians

After that you started getting wild cards. One had Mexicans as #5 and I was so confused.

You might think Japan would be on the list but I never met anyone who had a problem with Japan, most of my students were enormous weebs. I wonder if that had something to do with being in Sichuan well west of Chongqing, which was pretty much outside of Japan's reach in the war. I can imagine people further east being raised on family stories of the Japanese invasion having a different point of view.

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

Grand Fromage posted:

I can also back up the opinion of Indians that Blistex experienced. When mainlanders would tell me what countries/peoples they hated, the list was almost always this one and in this order:

Koreans
Hong Kongers
Vietnamese
Indians

After that you started getting wild cards. One had Mexicans as #5 and I was so confused.

You might think Japan would be on the list but I never met anyone who had a problem with Japan, most of my students were enormous weebs. I wonder if that had something to do with being in Sichuan well west of Chongqing, which was pretty much outside of Japan's reach in the war. I can imagine people further east being raised on family stories of the Japanese invasion having a different point of view.


....America's.... not number one?! :ohdear:

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


UltraRed posted:

....America's.... not number one?! :ohdear:

That was a couple years ago and the hate can turn on a dime, so who knows. I experienced both a sudden surge and vanish of anti-Indian and anti-Korean sentiments while I lived there. The anti-Korean stuff lasted a couple months and was big, stores putting up signs about how they didn't sell Korean products and others smashing Korean stuff in public and poo poo. Then it all vanished overnight when there was a border thing with India.

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Trammel
Dec 31, 2007
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Grand Fromage posted:

You might think Japan would be on the list but I never met anyone who had a problem with Japan, most of my students were enormous weebs. I wonder if that had something to do with being in Sichuan well west of Chongqing, which was pretty much outside of Japan's reach in the war. I can imagine people further east being raised on family stories of the Japanese invasion having a different point of view.

I was in Xi'an in 2012 and there were huge anti Japanese demonstrations in the city and even rumors of one person being beaten to death by a mob for driving a Japanese brand vehicle. It was definitely a thing to have red ribbons on your (Japanese) car during that period. I also saw signs in shops saying "no dogs or Japanese". I remember one Japanese restaurant I used to go to temporarily shut down and never reopened during that period. I also used to know a girl who sang beautifully telling me that it would be a good thing for China to nuke Japan and just kill them all. She also said that black people scared her and she wouldn't live in the same building as one. Her father was in the police. So, yeah, China is a land of contrasts.

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