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gonna wait for more deets on this north korea thing
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Jun 16, 2020 09:05
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seem very performative. the office is in north korean territory... https://twitter.com/AP/status/1272789356303056896
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Jun 16, 2020 09:13
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renamed the thread since there really isn't a CSPAM thread to post about non-china affairs
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Jun 16, 2020 09:16
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Jun 16, 2020 09:18
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Little Kim sister blew up the liasion building; and 3 Indians dead. I also heard 5 Chinese soldier dead unconfirmed. Obligatory acceleration black swan comment.
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Jun 16, 2020 10:25
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How is NK handling the Covid situation? Are people wearing masks, what's the messaging?
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Jun 16, 2020 11:01
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Fame Douglas posted:How is NK handling the Covid situation? Are people wearing masks, what's the messaging? There is no Coronavirus in Ba Sing Se.
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Jun 16, 2020 11:35
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I move that we annex the India thread.
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Jun 16, 2020 16:46
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number went up https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/1272926142568292354
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Jun 16, 2020 17:19
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Atrocious Joe posted:I move that we annex the India thread.
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Jun 16, 2020 17:29
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:there's an india thread? Not for long.
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Jun 16, 2020 17:33
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:there's an india thread? #JaiHind #SayYesToWar
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Jun 16, 2020 17:36
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https://twitter.com/AKJANGRA17/status/1272913255371964417?s=20 https://twitter.com/TheJaggi/status/1272923862179573764?s=20 https://twitter.com/lokeshmittal_/status/1272912711228305409?s=20 Indian CHUDs drinking that Bannon juice
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Jun 16, 2020 17:49
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How reliable is this source? Also baseball styled brawl getting 20+ people died seem to be crazy high. If its really 20+ people dead, PLZ better start shipping those light tanks to the plateau
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Jun 16, 2020 17:56
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India’s government seems really lovely but I’m not about to cheer on a war because in the end it’s the poor who will die, and there’s a lot of poor people in that part of the world who can’t defend themselves. I hope China is able to deescalate for the sake of that if nothing else.
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Jun 16, 2020 17:56
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The skirmish between China and India was apparently a massive fistfight in a remote cliff passage, most of the deaths were guys falling off a really crowded cliff. Also, they're not reporting it but a bunch of Chinese soldiers died too.
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Jun 16, 2020 18:00
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https://twitter.com/ajaishukla/status/1272933227104108545?s=20 https://twitter.com/HuXijin_GT/status/1272901941140561924?s=20 I don't think leadership in either country particularly want's a war, but these two approaches to deescalation, if accurate, are going to be difficult to reconcile.
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Jun 16, 2020 18:02
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Jun 16, 2020 18:28
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/ajaishukla/status/1272933227104108545?s=20 If this is like the recent Indo-Pakistan dog fight both sides will claim downing more enemies and therefore the victors of the skirmish. Also, 2020 does not gently caress around, we are still in first half.
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Jun 16, 2020 18:38
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I'm trying to imagine how China-India war would even play out. I'm guessing it'd be a horrific alpine meatgrinder that would last a few weeks before the jingoists realize that there's not going to be a quick victory and they come to an unsatisfying status quo agreement.
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Jun 16, 2020 18:42
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I suspect Pakistan will spend all of it trolling India on social media.
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Jun 16, 2020 18:43
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Heartcatch posted:I suspect Pakistan will spend all of it trolling India on social media. I went to the Pakistan sub to see what they think and this is what I saw 
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Jun 16, 2020 18:47
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Heartcatch posted:I suspect Pakistan will spend all of it trolling India on social media. Or opening a second front if China actually engages for real.
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Jun 16, 2020 18:48
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The thing about the Hindutva crowd is that China is a distant second or third on their list of enemies. Number one is Muslims, and half of their rage directed at China just comes from the Chinese-Pakistan relationship. If Pakistan jumps into a war they'll be happier than ever. Anyways I doubt there will be a war. You can't imagine what a China-India war looks like because it's a stupid proposition that isn't worth fighting.
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Jun 16, 2020 18:56
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Just because it's really loving stupid doesn't mean it won't happen. I doubt there will be a war in the near-term but 20 dead soldiers has a way of causing people to re-align who they think their foreign enemies are.
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Jun 16, 2020 19:05
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:Anyways I doubt there will be a war. You can't imagine what a China-India war looks like because it's a stupid proposition that isn't worth fighting. I think the 20 to 43 casualty figure also disincentives escalation. After years of wolf warrior expectations, this doesn't fit the narrative, and the leaders in Beijing must (?) be realistic enough to know that further antagonism doesn't guarantee better results.
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Jun 16, 2020 19:10
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So do we know why North Korea is being mad with the south again? All I know is they demolished a building and Kim's sister said some poo poo.
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Jun 16, 2020 19:23
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https://theprint.in/diplomacy/china-departed-from-lac-consensus-wanted-to-unilaterally-change-status-quo-says-india/442931/ Not sure how reliable ThePrint is but they're reporting that both sides are accusing each other of violating the de-escalation agreement and that the Chinese may be demanding more than just a status quo agreement. If that's true I have no idea what the gently caress the logic is behind it. Maybe Xi Jinping really likes desolate strategically useless mountain passes?
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Jun 16, 2020 19:26
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In a head to head nuclear power war that would become increasingly lopsided as China's industrial dominance came into play over a long term bloody meatgrinding scenario wouldn't it go nuclear the second the Chinese broke out of the mountains into India proper?
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Jun 16, 2020 19:29
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sum posted:I'm trying to imagine how China-India war would even play out. I'm guessing it'd be a horrific alpine meatgrinder that would last a few weeks before the jingoists realize that there's not going to be a quick victory and they come to an unsatisfying status quo agreement. lots and lots of artillery
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Jun 16, 2020 19:31
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shovelbum posted:In a head to head nuclear power war that would become increasingly lopsided as China's industrial dominance came into play over a long term bloody meatgrinding scenario wouldn't it go nuclear the second the Chinese broke out of the mountains into India proper? I strongly doubt China could ever break through the mountains without World War levels of political willpower and domestic buy-in. The infrastructure and logistical advantage in the region is heavily on the Indian side and China would likely need to endure hundreds of thousands if not millions of casualties to secure a foothold across the Himalayas.
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Jun 16, 2020 19:35
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stephenthinkpad posted:If this is like the recent Indo-Pakistan dog fight both sides will claim downing more enemies and therefore the victors of the skirmish. It went pretty badly for the Indians. They lost one aircraft shot down in air to air combat (almost certainly by a Chinese made fighter/missile), bombed a patch of empty forest, and then their AAA shot down their own SAR chopper out searching for the first downed pilot.
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Jun 16, 2020 19:37
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sum posted:Just because it's really loving stupid doesn't mean it won't happen. I doubt there will be a war in the near-term but 20 dead soldiers has a way of causing people to re-align who they think their foreign enemies are. Eh, not really. It's not like the whole world thinks like Americans. Trammel posted:I think the 20 to 43 casualty figure also disincentives escalation. After years of wolf warrior expectations, this doesn't fit the narrative, and the leaders in Beijing must (?) be realistic enough to know that further antagonism doesn't guarantee better results. Most of the deaths were accidents. A few hundred guys packed onto a narrow cliff, afaik most of the Chinese deaths were from the cliff physically falling apart from the weight.
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Jun 16, 2020 19:50
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BrokenGameboy posted:So do we know why North Korea is being mad with the south again? All I know is they demolished a building and Kim's sister said some poo poo. Flyers in hot air balloons or sth stupid like that. Does it matter though? That on/off behavior has been going on for decades. It is actually how N.Korea really works. If I could wager a guess, this time they are trying to boost morale inwards since the economy went to poo poo with China closing the border, virus and all.
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Jun 16, 2020 19:57
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:Most of the deaths were accidents. A few hundred guys packed onto a narrow cliff, afaik most of the Chinese deaths were from the cliff physically falling apart from the weight. Where did you get that info? It's oddly specific.
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Jun 16, 2020 19:58
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Dante80 posted:Where did you get that info? It's oddly specific. https://twitter.com/ShivAroor/status/1272962819772698624 https://twitter.com/Iyervval/status/1272881015627841536 Also the outright death count is too high for a fistfight.
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Jun 16, 2020 20:14
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sum posted:https://theprint.in/diplomacy/china-departed-from-lac-consensus-wanted-to-unilaterally-change-status-quo-says-india/442931/ blood and soil, same with Taiwan. That land in Kashmir is theirs by divine right.
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Jun 16, 2020 20:22
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For a moment, I wasn't sure if you were talking about the PRC or India.
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Jun 16, 2020 20:28
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Imagine four PLA soldiers on the edge of a cliff
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Jun 16, 2020 20:31
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Grapplejack posted:blood and soil, same with Taiwan. That land in Kashmir is theirs by divine right. Taiwan's useful and strategically positioned though. The disputed territory in Kashmir is literally just uninhabitable mountains
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Jun 16, 2020 20:41
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