Nintendo Switch: Today we're debating the best controllers to shove up your ass.

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Mister Facetious: Apr 21, 2007; I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

Mega64 posted:

Using AXBY or symbols is a dumb idea anyway.

OUYA had the right idea.

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MeatRocket8: Aug 3, 2011

When I play ARMS online during the day with NA players; I kick a lot of butt. When I play at night with the jpn players I get whooped on.

# ? Jun 16, 2020 23:31

Dr. Cool Aids: Jul 6, 2009

GreatGreen posted:

In those cases, the correct "accept" button is "Start."

The A vs B debate is as simple as your natural "yes" and "no" head movement response. There's a reason almost every human culture in the world makes "head center, nodding, staying focused on what you're facing " its "yes" and "turn head to the side, away from what it's facing" as its "no." Bottom center face button is your thumb's natural resting spot, with the tip of your thumb on Y. Based on ergonomics, the B button should be "yes" because it's the natural "home base, stay focused on what you're doing" button and the A button is the equivalent "moving outward and away, signaling you disapprove and want to move onto something else" action.

You know who else understands this absolutely fundamental truth about human nature? Literally every single other console company in the history of the industry, and every independent PC dev studio with controller support.

you should visit Bulgaria sometime

# ? Jun 16, 2020 23:48

Butterfly Valley: Apr 19, 2007; I am a spectacularly bad poster and everyone in the Schadenfreude thread hates my guts.

Also Turkey and Greece. But the rest of their post is bullshit so it's not really worth rebutting. I just picked up the 3 controllers I have in arms reach (Xbone, Switch Pro and SN30 Pro) and I'd have to say my 'neutral' thumb position is either in the middle of the 4 face buttons or, if any button, actually the left most one on each pad, and I don't have particularly large hands.

# ? Jun 16, 2020 23:57

American McGay: Feb 28, 2010; by sebmojo

Xbox is the only company to get it right (green/yes red/no).

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:01

Instruction Manuel: May 15, 2007; Yes, it is what it looks like!

if anyone took a chance on the $2 Thief Simulator sale from a while back, a big patch was released today. Supposedly has performance improvements:

https://nintendoeverything.com/thief-simulator-update-out-now-patch-notes/

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:06

Rutibex: Sep 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

Wamdoodle posted:

if anyone took a chance on the $2 Thief Simulator sale from a while back, a big patch was released today. Supposedly has performance improvements:

https://nintendoeverything.com/thief-simulator-update-out-now-patch-notes/

Hell Yeah! I knew they were going to use my $2 wisely

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:10

Commander Keene: Dec 21, 2016; Faster than the others

ONE YEAR LATER posted:

No idea, I probably won't get around to playing it for a few months.

Yeah that was more of a general thread question, because I'm interested in the collection, but from the state at launch it almost seems like I'm better off playing my PS2 disc for G2 and buying the PSOne Classics version of Grandia if I ever feel like playing it.

Butterfly Valley posted:

Also Turkey and Greece. But the rest of their post is bullshit so it's not really worth rebutting. I just picked up the 3 controllers I have in arms reach (Xbone, Switch Pro and SN30 Pro) and I'd have to say my 'neutral' thumb position is either in the middle of the 4 face buttons or, if any button, actually the left most one on each pad, and I don't have particularly large hands.

Yeah, my resting thumb position on both the DualShock 3 and the Wii U Pro Controller (the two controllers I use most) is with my thumb across all four buttons.

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:16

GreatGreen: Jul 3, 2007; That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.

So, somehow I'm being proven wrong by having it pointed out to me that the A and B buttons were intentionally labeled as they were, which is supposed to make everything better I guess? I understand that Nintendo wanted the A button to be the accept button and the B button to be the cancel button, and so they named them that way.

They still got them backwards. They're still wrong. Doesn't matter how they're labeled.

"No no no, sir. We've decided to call these glove-shaped things 'shoes' which obviously go on feet because they're named shoes, and we're calling these shoe-shaped things 'gloves' which obviously go on hands because they're called gloves, so because they're named that way, you're clearly wrong about how they should be worn. The labels are the most important things about them, not how they're shaped or placed according to your natural inclinations for using them."

GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Jun 17, 2020

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homeless snail: Mar 14, 2007

I guess go back to 1983 and tell Gunpei Yokoi he got it wrong

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:25

Your Computer: Oct 3, 2008; Grimey Drawer

GreatGreen posted:

So, somehow I'm being proven wrong by having it pointed out to me that the A and B buttons were intentionally labeled as they were, which is supposed to make everything better I guess? I understand that Nintendo wanted the A button to be the accept button and the B button to be the cancel button, and so they named them that way.

They still got them backwards. They're still wrong. Doesn't matter how they're labeled.

"No no no, sir. We've decided to call these glove-shaped things 'shoes' which obviously go on feet because they're named shoes, and we're calling these shoe-shaped things 'gloves' which obviously go on hands because they're called gloves, so because they're named that way, you're clearly wrong about how they should be worn. The labels are the most important things about them, not how they're shaped or placed according to your natural inclinations for using them."

what

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:30

American McGay: Feb 28, 2010; by sebmojo

GreatGreen posted:

So, somehow I'm being proven wrong by having it pointed out to me that the A and B buttons were intentionally labeled as they were, which is supposed to make everything better I guess? I understand that Nintendo wanted the A button to be the accept button and the B button to be the cancel button, and so they named them that way.

They still got them backwards. They're still wrong. Doesn't matter how they're labeled.

"No no no, sir. We've decided to call these glove-shaped things 'shoes' which obviously go on feet because they're named shoes, and we're calling these shoe-shaped things 'gloves' which obviously go on hands because they're called gloves, so because they're named that way, you're clearly wrong about how they should be worn. The labels are the most important things about them, not how they're shaped or placed according to your natural inclinations for using them."

Incredible you were somehow able to make a post that is worse than your last. Truly remarkable feat you've accomplished here.

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:31

SeANMcBAY: Jun 28, 2006; Look on the bright side.

GreatGreen posted:

So, somehow I'm being proven wrong by having it pointed out to me that the A and B buttons were intentionally labeled as they were, which is supposed to make everything better I guess? I understand that Nintendo wanted the A button to be the accept button and the B button to be the cancel button, and so they named them that way.

They still got them backwards. They're still wrong. Doesn't matter how they're labeled.

"No no no, sir. We've decided to call these glove-shaped things 'shoes' which obviously go on feet because they're named shoes, and we're calling these shoe-shaped things 'gloves' which obviously go on hands because they're called gloves, so because they're named that way, you're clearly wrong about how they should be worn. The labels are the most important things about them, not how they're shaped or placed according to your natural inclinations for using them."

They did it first. Sony and Microsoft are wrong.

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:32

ONE YEAR LATER: Apr 13, 2004; Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!; Oven Wrangler

GreatGreen posted:

So, somehow I'm being proven wrong by having it pointed out to me that the A and B buttons were intentionally labeled as they were, which is supposed to make everything better I guess? I understand that Nintendo wanted the A button to be the accept button and the B button to be the cancel button, and so they named them that way.

They still got them backwards. They're still wrong. Doesn't matter how they're labeled.

"No no no, sir. We've decided to call these glove-shaped things 'shoes' which obviously go on feet because they're named shoes, and we're calling these shoe-shaped things 'gloves' which obviously go on hands because they're called gloves, so because they're named that way, you're clearly wrong about how they should be worn. The labels are the most important things about them, not how they're shaped or placed according to your natural inclinations for using them."

Are you on drugs? It's cool if you are, I'm stoned too.

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:38

Harry Privates: Oct 10, 2007

I like Minecraft will I like Dragon Quest Builders 2? I see the sale ends tonight.

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:40

SeANMcBAY: Jun 28, 2006; Look on the bright side.

Harry Privates posted:

I like Minecraft will I like Dragon Quest Builders 2? I see the sale ends tonight.

It�s basically Minecraft but with structure and a plot so if that sounds interesting then yes. There�s also a lengthy demo to try.

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:44

American McGay: Feb 28, 2010; by sebmojo

Harry Privates posted:

I like Minecraft will I like Dragon Quest Builders 2? I see the sale ends tonight.

It's more structured and less purely creative than Minecraft (which I prefer). It's extra good if you're familiar with DQ lore and can enjoy the music.

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:47

homeless snail: Mar 14, 2007

Harry Privates posted:

I like Minecraft will I like Dragon Quest Builders 2? I see the sale ends tonight.

Hard Maybe. DQB is a much more directed game, eventually some sandbox stuff opens up but a lot of the time you are being railroaded through the story. It's a good builder though

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:47

mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

GreatGreen posted:

So, somehow I'm being proven wrong by having it pointed out to me that the A and B buttons were intentionally labeled as they were, which is supposed to make everything better I guess? I understand that Nintendo wanted the A button to be the accept button and the B button to be the cancel button, and so they named them that way.

They still got them backwards. They're still wrong. Doesn't matter how they're labeled.

"No no no, sir. We've decided to call these glove-shaped things 'shoes' which obviously go on feet because they're named shoes, and we're calling these shoe-shaped things 'gloves' which obviously go on hands because they're called gloves, so because they're named that way, you're clearly wrong about how they should be worn. The labels are the most important things about them, not how they're shaped or placed according to your natural inclinations for using them."

Can you make a post that isn't mindless rambling

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:48

Bleck: Jan 7, 2014; No matter how one loves, there are always different aims. Love can take a great many forms, whatever the era.

SeANMcBAY posted:

They did it first. Sony and Microsoft are wrong.

to be fair Sony made their A and B buttons O and X respectively, knowing which ones had basically been codified as confirm and cancel

it was North American developers that flipped it around for no reason

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:52

Harry Privates: Oct 10, 2007

homeless snail posted:

Hard Maybe. DQB is a much more directed game, eventually some sandbox stuff opens up but a lot of the time you are being railroaded through the story. It's a good builder though

Do I need to follow plans to build or can you complete quests building something 10 different ways?

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:53

MeatRocket8: Aug 3, 2011

Since Thief Simulator got a major update, is it good now? At least the performance?

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:53

WHY BONER NOW: Mar 6, 2016; Pillbug

How does Invisible Inc compare to Into the Breach?

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:54

SeANMcBAY: Jun 28, 2006; Look on the bright side.

Bleck posted:

to be fair Sony made their A and B buttons O and X respectively, knowing which ones had basically been codified as confirm and cancel

it was North American developers that flipped it around for no reason

Is there a way to make it the Japanese settings on PlayStation or does it depend on the game?

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:54

homeless snail: Mar 14, 2007

Harry Privates posted:

Do I need to follow plans to build or can you complete quests building something 10 different ways?

Both, sometimes there is a explicit blueprint you have to follow exactly, sometimes they'll say "well a bathroom needs these three things in it" and you can use your imagination as long as it has a toilet and a towel rack or whatever

# ? Jun 17, 2020 00:57

Oscar Wild: Apr 11, 2006; It's good to be a G

For the sale I got resident evil 1 and 4, and The Lost Child.

I've been working through my obscene backlog, starting with The Messenger, dragon quest 11, and fire emblem 2nd house. It feels good not to be wanting any more games for a bit.

# ? Jun 17, 2020 01:03

Detective No. 27: Jun 7, 2006

GreatGreen posted:

So, somehow I'm being proven wrong by having it pointed out to me that the A and B buttons were intentionally labeled as they were, which is supposed to make everything better I guess? I understand that Nintendo wanted the A button to be the accept button and the B button to be the cancel button, and so they named them that way.

They still got them backwards. They're still wrong. Doesn't matter how they're labeled.

"No no no, sir. We've decided to call these glove-shaped things 'shoes' which obviously go on feet because they're named shoes, and we're calling these shoe-shaped things 'gloves' which obviously go on hands because they're called gloves, so because they're named that way, you're clearly wrong about how they should be worn. The labels are the most important things about them, not how they're shaped or placed according to your natural inclinations for using them."

Sir, this is a KB Toys that's been shut down for fifteen years.

# ? Jun 17, 2020 01:04

Jackard: Oct 28, 2007; We Have A Bow And We Wish To Use It

American McGay posted:

Xbox is the only company to get it right (green/yes red/no).

Is there a switch controller with Xbox 360 color scheme? Also remapped my buttons when that feature came out and wish it would stop asking if I really wanted to remap them after all, want to change it back?

# ? Jun 17, 2020 01:09

Mister Facetious: Apr 21, 2007; I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

American McGay posted:

Xbox is the only company to get it right (green/yes red/no).

Glad I'm not colorblind...

# ? Jun 17, 2020 01:09

SeANMcBAY: Jun 28, 2006; Look on the bright side.

Oscar Wild posted:

For the sale I got resident evil 1 and 4, and The Lost Child.

I've been working through my obscene backlog, starting with The Messenger, dragon quest 11, and fire emblem 2nd house. It feels good not to be wanting any more games for a bit.

I still want more. Thinking of grabbing Fantasy Zone before the sale ends.

I�ll rebuy RE4 eventually but I�ll hold off now since I know it goes on sale like monthly and I want to get through RE1 Remake and RE3 Remake before going back to it.

# ? Jun 17, 2020 01:12

Instruction Manuel: May 15, 2007; Yes, it is what it looks like!

SeANMcBAY posted:

Is there a way to make it the Japanese settings on PlayStation or does it depend on the game?

PS4 has system level button remapping, iirc

# ? Jun 17, 2020 01:28

Mercury Crusader: Apr 20, 2005; You know they say that all demons are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Pyro Jack and you can see that statement is not true, hee-ho!

People love the SNES to a ridiculously overhyped degree, but hate the SNES-established A/B rules. A real conundrum.

# ? Jun 17, 2020 01:32

Detective No. 27: Jun 7, 2006

Also the concave button setup that the superior US SNES had should have caught on.

# ? Jun 17, 2020 01:36

Brother Entropy: Dec 27, 2009

Detective No. 27 posted:

Also the concave button setup that the superior US SNES had should have caught on.

finally someone's making some drat sense around here

# ? Jun 17, 2020 01:36

Feels Villeneuve: Oct 7, 2007; Setter is Better.

GreatGreen posted:

So, somehow I'm being proven wrong by having it pointed out to me that the A and B buttons were intentionally labeled as they were, which is supposed to make everything better I guess? I understand that Nintendo wanted the A button to be the accept button and the B button to be the cancel button, and so they named them that way.

They still got them backwards. They're still wrong. Doesn't matter how they're labeled.

"No no no, sir. We've decided to call these glove-shaped things 'shoes' which obviously go on feet because they're named shoes, and we're calling these shoe-shaped things 'gloves' which obviously go on hands because they're called gloves, so because they're named that way, you're clearly wrong about how they should be worn. The labels are the most important things about them, not how they're shaped or placed according to your natural inclinations for using them."

Also, why do we drive on the parkway and park on the driveway

# ? Jun 17, 2020 01:38

Butterfly Valley: Apr 19, 2007; I am a spectacularly bad poster and everyone in the Schadenfreude thread hates my guts.

Losing the concave buttons was the necessary sacrifice to be rid of that godawful parmaviolet colour scheme

# ? Jun 17, 2020 01:41

The Bloop: Jul 5, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

Mercury Crusader posted:

People love the SNES to a ridiculously overhyped degree

The hype associated with my degree of loving the SNES is indeed very high, but perfectly calibrated

# ? Jun 17, 2020 01:49

Feels Villeneuve: Oct 7, 2007; Setter is Better.

the SNES is adequately hyped. The NES is the overhyped one.

# ? Jun 17, 2020 01:52

Bleck: Jan 7, 2014; No matter how one loves, there are always different aims. Love can take a great many forms, whatever the era.

Detective No. 27 posted:

Also the concave button setup that the superior US SNES had should have caught on.

can I get a hell :yeah:

# ? Jun 17, 2020 01:56

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 01:30

Mercury Crusader: Apr 20, 2005; You know they say that all demons are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Pyro Jack and you can see that statement is not true, hee-ho!

Feels Villeneuve posted:

the SNES is adequately hyped. The NES is the overhyped one.

Modern day internet has told me that the SNES is the best but only for like five specific games that rotate around depending on who you ask, while the NES doesn't exist anymore.

# ? Jun 17, 2020 02:12

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